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An Ok reliever and a rich man's Ryan Shealy?

 

I like Kila a lot more than that, and Tejeda I don't care about, it just makes me feel like it's more possible if there's an okay reliever we can add that someone will get rid of.

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I think Marshall would still make a solid 3/4 starter much easier than Gorzelanny can fill a set up role for the Cubs. I don't have an issue at all with dealing Gorzelanny away, assuming we get something usable for him. Either a setup guy(assuming we'd move Marshall to the rotation since we wouldn't have a lefty at that point) or prospects.

True, but you know that all we'll get is two mid-level prospects still in A ball.

 

If one turns out to be Chris Archer I don't think we'll care too much. Not likely though. As someone mentioned above the Cubs have a lot of starting pitching lying around. It'd make sense to move a starter for something we need, like a reliever. If you throw out guys under 25, Gorzey is the only one who would draw interest. Silva's contract and history is working against him. Z and Dempster aren't going anywhere and Wells has less value. If we're going to trade one, it's going to be Gorzelanny.

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It's not dumb. I could see a great marketing opportunity with Galaragga and Milt Pappas. Maybe on one of Galaragga's off nights him and Pappas can sit in the stands behind home plate and heckle the home plate ump all night.

 

Hopefully Gallaraga pitches one wild it shoots through the screen and hits Pappas in the face.

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Had not seen this anywhere, this was posted after the Pena signing.

 

Meanwhile, the Cubs continue discussions with the Texas Rangers and Detroit Tigers on possible trade scenarios. As mentioned here on numerous occasions, the Cubs would still like to add Texas infielder Chris Davis as well as reliever Darren O'Day.

 

Detroit is interested in Cubs starter Tom Gorzelanny. They are offering starting pitcher Armando Galarraga in return

 

I would just keep Gorz before that.

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If Tom Gorzelanny were right handed and unable to strike people out, he'd pretty much be Armando Galarraga.
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Had not seen this anywhere, this was posted after the Pena signing.

 

Meanwhile, the Cubs continue discussions with the Texas Rangers and Detroit Tigers on possible trade scenarios. As mentioned here on numerous occasions, the Cubs would still like to add Texas infielder Chris Davis as well as reliever Darren O'Day.

 

Detroit is interested in Cubs starter Tom Gorzelanny. They are offering starting pitcher Armando Galarraga in return

 

I would just keep Gorz before that.

 

Yeah I think that's been discussed in the Gorz thread.

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Had not seen this anywhere, this was posted after the Pena signing.

 

Meanwhile, the Cubs continue discussions with the Texas Rangers and Detroit Tigers on possible trade scenarios. As mentioned here on numerous occasions, the Cubs would still like to add Texas infielder Chris Davis as well as reliever Darren O'Day.

 

Detroit is interested in Cubs starter Tom Gorzelanny. They are offering starting pitcher Armando Galarraga in return

 

I would just keep Gorz before that.

 

Exactly, what would be the point?

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With Philly's surprise acquisition of Lee I think they have to be looking for cost cutting moves elsewhere. The Cubs have a couple guys that could fill replacement level performance for them at cheap costs, like Gorzelanny, Wells and Colvin. But I wonder if both teams are thinking something bigger.

 

Philly probably wants to save some money and the easiest way to do so seems to be dealing Blanton/Lidge/Ibanez. The Cubs seem to be looking for the type of mediocre inning eating that Blanton seems capable of providing. They also seemingly want to get rid of Fukudome and add power. Would they do something like Blanton/Ibanez for Fukudome (saving Philly $6.5m this year). Fukudome seems to be a bench guy. Ibanez would be the Cubs LH power bat off the bench, plus sort of insurance for Pena. They did like him when he was available, right? Individually Fukudome may be the more overpaid. I don't know what the back end of their rotation looks like but Gorzellany might be somebody they'd really like to fill a role at low cost.

 

 

Yeah I think I just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

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Philly probably wants to save some money and the easiest way to do so seems to be dealing Blanton/Lidge/Ibanez. The Cubs seem to be looking for the type of mediocre inning eating that Blanton seems capable of providing. They also seemingly want to get rid of Fukudome and add power. Would they do something like Blanton/Ibanez for Fukudome (saving Philly $6.5m this year). Fukudome seems to be a bench guy. Ibanez would be the Cubs LH power bat off the bench, plus sort of insurance for Pena. They did like him when he was available, right? Individually Fukudome may be the more overpaid. I don't know what the back end of their rotation looks like but Gorzellany might be somebody they'd really like to fill a role at low cost.

 

That might be something Hendry would consider, but it'd be terrible for the Cubs. Ibanez is 38 and had a .793 OPS last year. Fukudome is 33 and had an .809 OPS last year. Power-wise, Kosuke had a .439 SLG and Ibanez had a .444 SLG last year. They had similar WARs last year (1.5 for Kosuke, 1.8 for Ibanez).

 

Interestingly, according to xFIP, Blanton outpitched his production last year – 4.82 ERA and 4.06 xFIP. I still wouldn't have much interest in him, though. Lidge is the only guy I'd have interest in from that package, and that's because we'd only have him this year and he'd probably move Cashner to the rotation.

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Philly probably wants to save some money and the easiest way to do so seems to be dealing Blanton/Lidge/Ibanez. The Cubs seem to be looking for the type of mediocre inning eating that Blanton seems capable of providing. They also seemingly want to get rid of Fukudome and add power. Would they do something like Blanton/Ibanez for Fukudome (saving Philly $6.5m this year). Fukudome seems to be a bench guy. Ibanez would be the Cubs LH power bat off the bench, plus sort of insurance for Pena. They did like him when he was available, right? Individually Fukudome may be the more overpaid. I don't know what the back end of their rotation looks like but Gorzellany might be somebody they'd really like to fill a role at low cost.

 

That might be something Hendry would consider, but it'd be terrible for the Cubs. Ibanez is 38 and had a .793 OPS last year. Fukudome is 33 and had an .809 OPS last year. Power-wise, Kosuke had a .439 SLG and Ibanez had a .444 SLG last year. They had similar WARs last year (1.5 for Kosuke, 1.8 for Ibanez).

 

Interestingly, according to xFIP, Blanton outpitched his production last year – 4.82 ERA and 4.06 xFIP. I still wouldn't have much interest in him, though. Lidge is the only guy I'd have interest in from that package, and that's because we'd only have him this year and he'd probably move Cashner to the rotation.

 

Yeah, I wasn't trying to come up with something I'd like or that would necessarily help the Cubs, just wondering if there was any moves that would fill both team's needs.

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Yeah, I wasn't trying to come up with something I'd like or that would necessarily help the Cubs, just wondering if there was any moves that would fill both team's needs.

 

You probably did come up with something Hendry would consider, because I think he strongly underrates Kosuke and would like the inning-eating ability of Blanton.

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Yeah, I wasn't trying to come up with something I'd like or that would necessarily help the Cubs, just wondering if there was any moves that would fill both team's needs.

 

You probably did come up with something Hendry would consider, because I think he strongly underrates Kosuke and would like the inning-eating ability of Blanton.

 

The reason I included Ibanez was A) to save Philly money, which should be their incentive in the first place, and B) Bring LH power to the Cubs since that seems to be something they would prefer over Kosuke's skill-set.

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