A Rod to DL, could A Ram appeal to Yanks?

[Guest]

I think this third baseman would probably need to be paid in Stanley Nickels, because with the hop that ball took and how hard it was hit, there isn't a person alive who could get in front of that ball at Iceblink's standards.

[SouthSideRyan]

Less Tranny, more Bob Brenly

[Banedon]

I think ARam would be claimed before he fell to the Yankees.

 

I'd let him go in a heartbeat if someone claimed him. He usually looks like he's barely trying. Think he's gone full Roger Dorn. Gives every tough ground ball that ole' bs.

 

Good god, I would pay a lot of money if people could no longer use Bull Durham or Major League as the basis for their inane complaints.

 

But how much would you pay if your third baseman would get in front of a ground ball?

 

Bidding starts at just under $17 million, which means he got paid something around $104,000 to play today.

 

Opening day 3rd basemen between Santo and Ramirez

1974 - 1976: Bill Madlock

1977 - 1980: Steve Ontiveros

1981: Ken Reitz

1982: Ryne Sandberg

1983 - 1985: Ron Cey

1986: Manny Trillo

1987: Keith Moreland

1988 - 1989 Vance Law

1990 Luis Salazar

1991 - 1992 Gary Scott

1993 - 1995 Steve Buechele

1996 Jose Hernandez

1997 - 1998 Kevin Orie

1999: Gary Gaetti

2000 Shane Andrews

2001: Bill Mueller

2002: Chris Stynes

2003: Mark Bellhorn

 

Which of those guys would you prefer to have at 3rd base than Aramis? Because chances are, if you trade away Ramirez, you aren't getting an upgrade.

 

Really...please...can we put a moratorium on Aramis trade ideas? Please?

[Tracer Bullet]

I think ARam would be claimed before he fell to the Yankees.

 

I'd let him go in a heartbeat if someone claimed him. He usually looks like he's barely trying. Think he's gone full Roger Dorn. Gives every tough ground ball that ole' bs.

 

Good god, I would pay a lot of money if people could no longer use Bull Durham or Major League as the basis for their inane complaints.

 

Million dollar arm, ten cent head IMO.

 

MEAT!!!

 

can we quote those movies just for fun as long as we're not making inane complaints?

[SouthSideRyan]

Sorry, Bull Durham's already been ruined forever. (And it wasn't that great to begin with)

 

Fire away on Major League

[hardcorecubfan]

Anyone hear Brenly's comments on Ramirez? I believe the quote was "I know its nearing the end of a horrible season but is Ramirez going to get in front of a groundball ever again?"

 

I have not been watching closely but is this the case? As i do not necessarily want Brenly as manager I do generally agree with him as an analyst. Maybe Ramirez is trying to stay healthy for free agency?

 

 

I agree with Brenly, he does the O'lay, bull crqap way to much and gets away with it.

[SouthSideRyan]

Seamus O' Lay, the Irish bullfighter Edited August 24, 2010 by SouthSideRyan

[javy knows my name]

OMG. [expletive] hilarious

[Clem Fandango]

I think ARam would be claimed before he fell to the Yankees.

 

I'd let him go in a heartbeat if someone claimed him. He usually looks like he's barely trying. Think he's gone full Roger Dorn. Gives every tough ground ball that ole' bs.

 

Good god, I would pay a lot of money if people could no longer use Bull Durham or Major League as the basis for their inane complaints.

 

I think Aramis' defense entered the cornfield

[Sammy Sofa]

Anyone hear Brenly's comments on Ramirez? I believe the quote was "I know its nearing the end of a horrible season but is Ramirez going to get in front of a groundball ever again?"

 

I have not been watching closely but is this the case? As i do not necessarily want Brenly as manager I do generally agree with him as an analyst. Maybe Ramirez is trying to stay healthy for free agency?

 

 

I agree with Brenly, he does the O'lay, bull crqap way to much and gets away with it.

 

I hope you use heart attack.

[erik316wttn]

I think ARam would be claimed before he fell to the Yankees.

 

I'd let him go in a heartbeat if someone claimed him. He usually looks like he's barely trying. Think he's gone full Roger Dorn. Gives every tough ground ball that ole' bs.

 

Good god, I would pay a lot of money if people could no longer use Bull Durham or Major League as the basis for their inane complaints.

 

But how much would you pay if your third baseman would get in front of a ground ball?

 

Bidding starts at just under $17 million, which means he got paid something around $104,000 to play today.

 

Opening day 3rd basemen between Santo and Ramirez

1974 - 1976: Bill Madlock

1977 - 1980: Steve Ontiveros

1981: Ken Reitz

1982: Ryne Sandberg

1983 - 1985: Ron Cey

1986: Manny Trillo

1987: Keith Moreland

1988 - 1989 Vance Law

1990 Luis Salazar

1991 - 1992 Gary Scott

1993 - 1995 Steve Buechele

1996 Jose Hernandez

1997 - 1998 Kevin Orie

1999: Gary Gaetti

2000 Shane Andrews

2001: Bill Mueller

2002: Chris Stynes

2003: Mark Bellhorn

 

Which of those guys would you prefer to have at 3rd base than Aramis? Because chances are, if you trade away Ramirez, you aren't getting an upgrade.

 

Really...please...can we put a moratorium on Aramis trade ideas? Please?

 

Well, other than that Sandberg guy...

 

Madlock wasn't horrible, either. But yeah, I'd be willing to keep ARam at 3rd next year. Sure, put him on waivers and if someone offers you a huge package for him then trade him, but I wouldn't make it one of my goals to trade Aram in the offseason.

[Banedon]

Well, other than that Sandberg guy...

 

Madlock wasn't horrible, either. But yeah, I'd be willing to keep ARam at 3rd next year. Sure, put him on waivers and if someone offers you a huge package for him then trade him, but I wouldn't make it one of my goals to trade Aram in the offseason.

 

Well Sandberg only played there like half a season...but yeah, he was ok.

[Backtobanks]

 

 

 

Madlock wasn't horrible, either. But yeah, I'd be willing to keep ARam at 3rd next year. Sure, put him on waivers and if someone offers you a huge package for him then trade him, but I wouldn't make it one of my goals to trade Aram in the offseason.[

 

Madlock hit .313 with an OPS of .815 @ 23 years old, .354 with an OPS of .881 @ 24 years old, and .339 with an OPS of .912 @ 25 years old. Saying he "wasn't horrible" is a bit of an understatement.

[champaignchris]

Madlock hit .313 with an OPS of .815 @ 23 years old, .354 with an OPS of .881 @ 24 years old, and .339 with an OPS of .912 @ 25 years old. Saying he "wasn't horrible" is a bit of an understatement.

 

And we traded him for two and a half years of Bobby Mercer (decent, but past his prime outfielder) and four years of Steve Ontiveros (bad third baseman, spent 6 years in Japan after leaving the Cubs at age 28). Madlock spent another decade in the league and put up Mark Grace-ish numbers.

[NCCubFan]

Madlock hit .313 with an OPS of .815 @ 23 years old, .354 with an OPS of .881 @ 24 years old, and .339 with an OPS of .912 @ 25 years old. Saying he "wasn't horrible" is a bit of an understatement.

 

And we traded him for two and a half years of Bobby Mercer (decent, but past his prime outfielder) and four years of Steve Ontiveros (bad third baseman, spent 6 years in Japan after leaving the Cubs at age 28). Madlock spent another decade in the league and put up Mark Grace-ish numbers.

That was the cheapness that was Phil Wrigley. Madlock had the nerve to ask to be paid what he was worth, so bye-bye. Same thing with Bruce Sutter a few years later.

[Abe Frohman]

If Mark Grace were a 3rd baseman, he would have got much more love.

 

I don't get the "trade Aram" bit. Yeah, he sucked in the first half. He was hurt. Now he's pretty back to normal and seemingly healed. You don't want to trade players like Aramis Ramirez. I think it was all just compounded by the fact that there was really no production from Ramirez, Lee, and pretty much all the guys making over $10 million.

 

Why Lee and Ramirez remained in the heart of the order, I have no idea. I guess it was a respect thing. The whole team suffers because moving them down in the order would have been disrespectful. Look where that led them. What a birdsnest.

[Backtobanks]

If Mark Grace were a 3rd baseman, he would have got much more love.

 

I don't get the "trade Aram" bit. Yeah, he sucked in the first half. He was hurt. Now he's pretty back to normal and seemingly healed. You don't want to trade players like Aramis Ramirez. I think it was all just compounded by the fact that there was really no production from Ramirez, Lee, and pretty much all the guys making over $10 million.

 

Why Lee and Ramirez remained in the heart of the order, I have no idea. I guess it was a respect thing. The whole team suffers because moving them down in the order would have been disrespectful. Look where that led them. What a birdsnest.

 

As I have often posted, Ricketts needs to put a competitive (maybe not contending, but competitive) team on the field to sell tickets. That's why I have trouble believing Aram or Byrd are going anywhere. Signing Dunn and a decent starter with a rebound season from Zambrano and Grabow makes them competitive enough to sell tickets and possibly contend for the NL Central.

[SouthSideRyan]

If Mark Grace were a 3rd baseman, he would have got much more love.

 

 

I'm not following

[Clem Fandango]

If Mark Grace were a 3rd baseman, he would have got much more love.

 

 

I'm not following

 

Chicks don't like first basemen