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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year or his first two years with the Cubs?

 

I'm not saying that means he'll be any good this year, and I don't think he will be, but the way you presented your point was odd, as if he must have sucked simply because he was with the Cubs.

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year

 

Didn't he actually just get a little lucky with an abnormally low HR/FB rate?

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year

 

Didn't he actually just get a little lucky with an abnormally low HR/FB rate?

 

Probably.

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YearofDaCubs

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year or his first two years with the Cubs?

 

I'm not saying that means he'll be any good this year, and I don't think he will be, but the way you presented your point was odd, as if he must have sucked simply because he was with the Cubs.

He was horrible the last year with the cubs and there's probably a reason he was DFA's by the DBacks. IMO the Cubs are wasting their time bringing him back to the team. You want horrible, bring up the Shark, not a 36 year old reliever with nothing left.

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year or his first two years with the Cubs?

 

I'm not saying that means he'll be any good this year, and I don't think he will be, but the way you presented your point was odd, as if he must have sucked simply because he was with the Cubs.

He was horrible the last year with the cubs and there's probably a reason he was DFA's by the DBacks. IMO the Cubs are wasting their time bringing him back to the team. You want horrible, bring up the Shark, not a 36 year old reliever with nothing left.

 

Yeah, but your main reasoning for not wanting him back was his last year with the Cubs. That wasn't last season. His last season he actually seemed to be a serviceable reliever again. He's been that or much better 5 of the last 6 seasons. Again, I really didn't want him signed back and I'm never a fan of these scrap heap attempts, but this is pretty far from being the end of the world. If he doesn't look much better than what he was showing with the Diamondbacks you won't see him with the Cubs much at all.

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YearofDaCubs

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year or his first two years with the Cubs?

 

I'm not saying that means he'll be any good this year, and I don't think he will be, but the way you presented your point was odd, as if he must have sucked simply because he was with the Cubs.

He was horrible the last year with the cubs and there's probably a reason he was DFA's by the DBacks. IMO the Cubs are wasting their time bringing him back to the team. You want horrible, bring up the Shark, not a 36 year old reliever with nothing left.

 

Yeah, but your main reasoning for not wanting him back was his last year with the Cubs. That wasn't last season. His last season he actually seemed to be a serviceable reliever again. He's been that or much better 5 of the last 6 seasons. Again, I really didn't want him signed back and I'm never a fan of these scrap heap attempts, but this is pretty far from being the end of the world. If he doesn't look much better than what he was showing with the Diamondbacks you won't see him with the Cubs much at all.

My main reasoning is two fold. He sucked the last year he pitched for us and he's sucked this year. Someone also mentioned that he was lucky last year for the Giants. I understand it's a low risk move but I feel the Cubs are wasting their time bringing him in.

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dew1679666265

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year

 

Didn't he actually just get a little lucky with an abnormally low HR/FB rate?

 

He got a little bit lucky with it (5.1%), but it wasn't wildly lower than normal – his career HR/FB rate is 8.5% and 8.3% and 7.0% his first two years with the Cubs. So yeah, he got fairly lucky with that.

 

I don't think there's much unluckiness going on with this year's numbers, though.

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jersey cubs fan

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What a joke. What do they expect from Howry? He sucked his last year here, why are they expecting anything different this time around?

 

Because he didn't suck last year

 

Didn't he actually just get a little lucky with an abnormally low HR/FB rate?

 

He got a little bit lucky with it (5.1%), but it wasn't wildly lower than normal – his career HR/FB rate is 8.5% and 8.3% and 7.0% his first two years with the Cubs. So yeah, he got fairly lucky with that.

 

I don't think there's much unluckiness going on with this year's numbers, though.

 

Some stats make it look like he bounced back a little last year, but xFIP makes it look like it simply continued on negative trend that began a couple years ago.

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Some stats make it look like he bounced back a little last year, but xFIP makes it look like it simply continued on negative trend that began a couple years ago.

 

According to WXRL, he was below replacement level last year, the third-worst reliever for the Giants.

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Dave Stevens, we hardly knew ye.

Does that mean Jeff is safe?

 

If Howry is replacing Stevens, then I'm liking this move less and less.

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Dave Stevens, we hardly knew ye.

Does that mean Jeff is safe?

 

I could see Grabow going to the DL. He is killing the team right now and the Cubs are going to have to free up two spots in the next week. One for Howry and one to move Z back into the rotation.

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