4/23 Meh (Dempster) vs Brewers (Suppan) 7:10p WGN, XM187

[Sammy Sofa]

Hahaha if you have never googled Ted Lilly before, I suggest you do, and then go to "the ted lilly fan club" . Wow

tha's a pretty amusing read

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9Bmaq23Hpe8/S9GwNQHMuoI/AAAAAAAABnA/Fg8hWA-Be4I/s1600/Threat+Level+Ted+2.jpg

[Fred Hornkohl]

Gerut, pinch hitting for Coffey, walked

[Roast]

Now no need for Marmol in the 9th, hopefully he doesn't come back out

Why? He hasn't worked a whole ton recently and we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day. Plus Lilly is coming back w/ a pitch count tomorrow. Marmol looks to be on tonight, I have no doubt he can mow through the bottom of this order fairly quickly. No reason to waste another pitcher that we may need tomorrow.

 

Eh, with a 7 run lead you can toss one guy out there and just let them finish it. It's good work for a bullpen that desperately needs more experience because it gives the pitcher a ton of room to make some mistakes.

This is true, too. Like I said earlier, I wasn't in love with bringing marmol in, in the first place. But now that he's in just let him finish it out....so long as he doesnt start walking people and drive up an unnecessary pitch count. :x

[NotSoSober]

Now no need for Marmol in the 9th, hopefully he doesn't come back out

Why? He hasn't worked a whole ton recently and we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day. Plus Lilly is coming back w/ a pitch count tomorrow. Marmol looks to be on tonight, I have no doubt he can mow through the bottom of this order fairly quickly. No reason to waste another pitcher that we may need tomorrow.

I'd say that's all the reason not to pitch our best and only reliable (I guess Zambrano counts now) relief pitcher with a 7 run lead in the 9th

[Keener98]

Now no need for Marmol in the 9th, hopefully he doesn't come back out

Why? He hasn't worked a whole ton recently and we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day. Plus Lilly is coming back w/ a pitch count tomorrow. Marmol looks to be on tonight, I have no doubt he can mow through the bottom of this order fairly quickly. No reason to waste another pitcher that we may need tomorrow.

 

I still don't understand the talk of Lilly being on a strict pitch count. He threw 88 pitches in his rehab start, there is no reason he cant go 95-100 with relative ease, but Im done trying to figure out wtf Lou is doing

[Sammy Sofa]

Nasty. Way to reign in that pitch count, Marmol.

 

CUBS WIN!

[Roast]

There you go. Game over. Marmol didn't work TOO hard, so he can pitch tomorrow if need-be. So everyone can relax a bit.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Edmonds lined out to third base

Zaun singled to center field

Escobar called out on strikes

Zaun took second on defensive indifference

Gerut, pinch hitting for Coffey, walked

Weeks struck out swinging

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 2 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            2 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 2              8 13  1
Milwaukee       0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0              1  8  3

 

CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !!

 

W:Dempster

S:none

L:Suppan

 

T: 3:20

A: 37,848

 

Home runs:

CUBS: Fukudome (2), Colvin (1)

Milwaukee: none

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Dempster      7.7  7  1  1  1  4  0 111
Marmol        1.3  1  0  0  1  3  0  22

 

Milwaukee      IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Suppan        4.3 10  6  5  2  2  1  79
Vargas        0.7  1  0  0  0  1  0  12
Parra         2.0  0  0  0  1  4  0  35
Hawkins       1.0  0  0  0  0  1  0  11
Coffey        1.0  2  2  2  0  1  1  24

 

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10036/Cubs%20W%20Flag.jpg

[Fred Hornkohl]

              CUBS   Milwaukee
P/PA          3.74        3.59
RBI%          0.20        0.05
R/BR          0.50        0.08
BA           0.342       0.242
OBP          0.390       0.324
SLG          0.605       0.333
OPS          0.996       0.658
ERA           1.00        7.00
BB/9          2.00        3.00
K/9           8.00        9.00

[Fred Hornkohl]

San Diego     10
Cincinnati     4  F

Pittsburgh     3
Houston        4  F

St. Louis      0
San Francisco  3  4

[Little Slide Rooter]

While I hate to see Marmol overused, its sure as hell fun to watch him pitch.

 

And damn, Dempsters looking for real, shutting down the hottest offense in baseball. This isnt the Reds or Astros.

[Keener98]

Hahaha if you have never googled Ted Lilly before, I suggest you do, and then go to "the ted lilly fan club" . Wow

tha's a pretty amusing read

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9Bmaq23Hpe8/S9GwNQHMuoI/AAAAAAAABnA/Fg8hWA-Be4I/s1600/Threat+Level+Ted+2.jpg

 

Seriously, I dont know how this is the 1st time Ive heard of the "Ted Lilly Fan Club".

[Yeti]

i really should have started the grill sometime during the 5th or 6th inning :banghead:

[SouthSideRyan]

we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day.

 

This was supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping Marmol in there?? Lou doesn't use any pitcher besides Marmol and Marshall (and soon Z) unless we're down by 3. Are you really worried that Jeff Gray would be too gassed to come in to some important spot because he was used with a 7 run lead? He's not pitching after the 5th inning anyway.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Friday 23 April 2010

CUBS @ Milwaukee

19:05

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            2 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 2              8 13  1
Milwaukee       0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0              1  8  3



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Theriot       ss       5   1   2   1   0   1   2   0   1   0   0   1   1   1   0   0   0
Fukudome      rf       4   2   2   2   1   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   1   0   0
D Lee         1b       3   0   1   0   2   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Tracy         3b       5   0   1   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Byrd          cf       5   2   2   0   0   1   5   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Colvin        lf       5   2   2   1   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Fontenot      2b       5   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
K Hill        c        4   1   2   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Dempster      p        2   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Marmol        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                38   8  13   6   3   9  16   0   1   2   0   1   2   1   2   0   0



Milwaukee
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Weeks         2b       5   0   2   0   0   2   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Gomez         cf       4   0   1   0   0   1   3   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Braun         lf       4   0   0   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Fielder       1b       2   0   1   0   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   1
McGeehee      3b       4   0   0   0   0   2   5   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Edmonds       rf       4   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Zaun          c        3   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   1
Escobar       ss       4   0   0   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0
Suppan        p        1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Vargas        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Inglett       ph       1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Parra         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Counsell      ph       1   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Hawkins       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Coffey        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Gerut         ph       0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                33   1   8   1   2   8  19   1   0   0   1   3   3   0   0   0   2



CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Dempster         7.7   7   1   1   1   4   0  111
Marmol           1.3   1   0   0   1   3   0   22

totals           9.0   8   1   1   2   8   0  133


Milwaukee
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Suppan           4.3  10   6   5   2   2   1   79
Vargas           0.7   1   0   0   0   1   0   12
Parra            2.0   0   0   0   1   4   0   35
Hawkins          1.0   0   0   0   0   1   0   11
Coffey           1.0   2   2   2   0   1   1   24

totals           9.0  13   8   7   3   9   2  161

W:Dempster (2-0)
S:none
L:Suppan (0-1)

T: 3:12
A: 37,848

Home runs:
CUBS: Fukudome (2), Colvin (1)
Milwaukee: none

 

 

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10036/Cubs%20W%20Flag.jpg

[RedFlash]

And damn, Dempsters looking for real, shutting down the hottest offense in baseball. This isnt the Reds or Astros.

 

Looking like re-signing Dempster was the right call, after all.

[Careless]

Now no need for Marmol in the 9th, hopefully he doesn't come back out

Why? He hasn't worked a whole ton recently and we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day. Plus Lilly is coming back w/ a pitch count tomorrow. Marmol looks to be on tonight, I have no doubt he can mow through the bottom of this order fairly quickly. No reason to waste another pitcher that we may need tomorrow.

I'd say that's all the reason not to pitch our best and only reliable (I guess Zambrano counts now) relief pitcher with a 7 run lead in the 9th

Zambrano hasn't been a relief pitcher in 8 years. No, he does not count as a reliable relief pitcher.

[Little Slide Rooter]

we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day.

 

This was supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping Marmol in there?? Lou doesn't use any pitcher besides Marmol and Marshall (and soon Z) unless we're down by 3. Are you really worried that Jeff Gray would be too gassed to come in to some important spot because he was used with a 7 run lead? He's not pitching after the 5th inning anyway.

 

With Lilly being activated, someone, probably between Berg, Samardjzjia, and Gray is going to Iowa. This would have been a good time to give one of them a chance to prove himself.

[NotSoSober]

What's the cut off? 3 years? 4? Zambrano is a good pitcher, I'm gonna go ahead and consider him reliable

 

Edit: Meant for Carless' reply to me

[Sammy Sofa]

we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day.

 

This was supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping Marmol in there?? Lou doesn't use any pitcher besides Marmol and Marshall (and soon Z) unless we're down by 3. Are you really worried that Jeff Gray would be too gassed to come in to some important spot because he was used with a 7 run lead? He's not pitching after the 5th inning anyway.

 

With Lilly being activated, someone, probably between Berg, Samardjzjia, and Gray is going to Iowa. This would have been a good time to give one of them a chance to prove himself.

 

Wait, are you saying that that in any way putting out the guy they know will go back down would have been a good idea? Guh?

[SouthSideRyan]

we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day.

 

This was supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping Marmol in there?? Lou doesn't use any pitcher besides Marmol and Marshall (and soon Z) unless we're down by 3. Are you really worried that Jeff Gray would be too gassed to come in to some important spot because he was used with a 7 run lead? He's not pitching after the 5th inning anyway.

 

With Lilly being activated, someone, probably between Berg, Samardjzjia, and Gray is going to Iowa. This would have been a good time to give one of them a chance to prove himself.

 

Wait, are you saying that that in any way putting out the guy they know will go back down would have been a good idea? Guh?

 

Would've kept the major league bullpen fresh.

[Sammy Sofa]

Screw that. They could have spared a single guy to go out there and handle a 7-run lead. At some point soon Lou is going to have to figure out how to get the kids some pitching time in these blowouts.

[Little Slide Rooter]

we're in the middle of a 19-game stretch w/out an off day.

 

This was supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping Marmol in there?? Lou doesn't use any pitcher besides Marmol and Marshall (and soon Z) unless we're down by 3. Are you really worried that Jeff Gray would be too gassed to come in to some important spot because he was used with a 7 run lead? He's not pitching after the 5th inning anyway.

 

With Lilly being activated, someone, probably between Berg, Samardjzjia, and Gray is going to Iowa. This would have been a good time to give one of them a chance to prove himself.

 

Wait, are you saying that that in any way putting out the guy they know will go back down would have been a good idea? Guh?

 

What Im saying is if they havnt fully made the decision yet, they could have sent one of them out to see how they look. Idealy Samardzjia would be gone without question, but I get the feeling that he'll live to blow another game or 20 while Berg is sent packing, even though Berg would be my 3rd choice. Actually 4th choice behind Grabow, but he isnt going anywhere.

[SouthSideRyan]

Screw that. They could have spared a single guy to go out there and handle a 7-run lead. At some point soon Lou is going to have to figure out how to get the kids some pitching time in these blowouts.

 

I'd still rather have a AAA bound Samardzija in there in the 9th over Marmol

[Guest]

Marmol is a guy who probably needs regular work to keep from hitting the backstop for 8 straight pitches. While I'm not sure if both were necessary, would you rather Marmol had pitched in neither Wednesday or Friday and now been on 5 days rest going into today?