Adrian Gonzalez

[Little Slide Rooter]

This needs to be our next offseason target. Assuming the Padres excercise his 2011 option, and it would be foolish not to, it will be for the purpose of trading him. Naturally, despite the fact that he'll only have 1 year of team control, a lot of teams will be after him. The question is, how much is too much? assuming we plan on offering an immediate extension, and with Lilly and Lees contracts, among others off the books we should be able to afford him without a problem. This is the guy to build a team around. Would Vitters, Colvin, and Theriot, be too much or too little for 1 guaranteed year of him? Maybe throw in another decent prospect(not Castro os Cashner) if we can get something else out of it? If we wait until the offseason, will it be too late?

[CubbieBum]

Ugh. With the teams that will be going after him the cost will be wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too high. Vitters, Colvin and Theriot is an absolute joke in my opinion. They can and likely will get a heck of a lot more for him.

[17 Seconds]

i don't think the cubs have a prospect good enough to be the main piece in a trade for gonzalez

[Little Slide Rooter]

i don't think the cubs have a prospect good enough to be the main piece in a trade for gonzalez

 

We may end up having to part with a lot. Vitters would be the centerpeice. we might have to throw them Jay Jackson as well as HJ Lee or Logan Watkins. The point is, it would be worth it. Maybe even with Cashner in the mix instead of Jackson. Gonzalez is one of the true elite in the game and we could get him in his absolute prime. Problem is, he'll probably want a deal at least at Mark Teixara money. However, with Lee and Lilly off the books in 2011, and Fukudome in 2012, Adrian is the kind of basket worth putting all your eggs in.

[Sammy Sofa]

Would Vitters, Colvin, and Theriot, be too much or too little for 1 guaranteed year of him? Maybe throw in another decent prospect(not Castro os Cashner) if we can get something else out of it? If we wait until the offseason, will it be too late?

 

 

If The Cubs ever actually made that offer for A-Gon then they should be banished from MLB just on principle alone.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Would Vitters, Colvin, and Theriot, be too much or too little for 1 guaranteed year of him? Maybe throw in another decent prospect(not Castro os Cashner) if we can get something else out of it? If we wait until the offseason, will it be too late?

 

 

If The Cubs ever actually made that offer for A-Gon then they should be banished from MLB just on principle alone.

 

Were talking 1 year of A Gon here. However, Vitters, Cashner, Theriot, and Colvin might be more realistic. I guess a lot of it depends on what kind of year Vitters has. The kid isnt even old enough to drink yet and can still re-estblish himself as a top prospect.

[CubbieBum]

Would Vitters, Colvin, and Theriot, be too much or too little for 1 guaranteed year of him? Maybe throw in another decent prospect(not Castro os Cashner) if we can get something else out of it? If we wait until the offseason, will it be too late?

 

 

If The Cubs ever actually made that offer for A-Gon then they should be banished from MLB just on principle alone.

 

Were talking 1 year of A Gon here. However, Vitters, Cashner, Theriot, and Colvin might be more realistic. I guess a lot of it depends on what kind of year Vitters has. The kid isnt even old enough to drink yet and can still re-estblish himself as a top prospect.

 

Probably still not enough.

 

If Lee has another .900+ OPS year or close to it I'm fine giving him a 3 year deal worth 30 million (not sure he would take it). That is better than giving away a, for once, pretty deep farm to get Adrian with no guarantee past one year and if we do manage to get an extensive likely having to pay double what Lee would take.

[Sammy Sofa]

Would Vitters, Colvin, and Theriot, be too much or too little for 1 guaranteed year of him? Maybe throw in another decent prospect(not Castro os Cashner) if we can get something else out of it? If we wait until the offseason, will it be too late?

 

 

If The Cubs ever actually made that offer for A-Gon then they should be banished from MLB just on principle alone.

 

Were talking 1 year of A Gon here. However, Vitters, Cashner, Theriot, and Colvin might be more realistic.

 

Probably not.

[CubbieBum]

If I'm not mistaken (too lazy to look it up) the Braves gave up three top prospects and another decent one to get Tex. I know Saltamachia (no where close on spelling), Neftali Feliz and Andrus were part of it.

[inari]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

[imb]

i'm not sure how the whole process goes but is there any way that we could just claim him? Like at night when it's real dark, just call dibs on him? Something to think about.

[inari]

i'm not sure how the whole process goes but is there any way that we could just claim him? Like at night when it's real dark, just call dibs on him? Something to think about.

 

Ah. The finders keepers rule.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

losers weepers

[CubbieBum]

i'm not sure how the whole process goes but is there any way that we could just claim him? Like at night when it's real dark, just call dibs on him? Something to think about.

 

Nah. He's dark but not that dark. Someone would see. That move only works on the real dark players because they aren't "imposters."

[Bote McBoteface]

No way we can get him without letting go of Castro and Colvin.

[Old Style]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

I'm all for this.

[RedFlash]

No way we can get him without letting go of Castro and Colvin.

 

They can ask, but they will get a no on Castro. But the Cubs, IMO, still have enough to land AGon without including Castro.

Edited April 13, 2010 by RedFlash

[ManEatingTarp]

I don't see Gonzalez landing in the NL Central. Maybe not even the NL.

The asking price is going to be sky high, and even if it gets to a half season of service it will probably cost a very good prospect. Remember a couple things. A) the rumor about the proposed White Sox trade had Beckham involved. That's a young but already MLB quality guy with a good to great ceiling. B) if the Padres hold onto him all the way to free agency, they'll probably get a first round draft pick. "If" he gets dealt this year you can look at the Halladay trade for what it would cost. If next year, you can look at the Holliday trade.

 

Either way, is Gonzalez the kind of player that the Cubs should even be looking at? With Lilly leaving (probably) and Zambrano entering his decline years they may want to refocus on investing on pitching.

 

Just my thoughts on it.

[Sammy Sofa]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

I'm all for this.

 

Me too. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to and locked up long term by the Yankees or Red Sox before he hits FA.

[daske17]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

I'm all for this.

 

Me too. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to and locked up long term by the Yankees or Red Sox before he hits FA.

 

Yankees don't really have a place for him unless they make him a DH. And with Jeter and A-Rod getting older, I would leave that spot open for them. I was pretty sure the Red Sox had a hard-on for Gonzalez and it was only a matter of time before he was traded there.

 

I'm all for signing Fielder. My only concern is that he would turn into his father and hit a rapid decline after 30.

[Sammy Sofa]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

I'm all for this.

 

Me too. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to and locked up long term by the Yankees or Red Sox before he hits FA.

 

Yankees don't really have a place for him unless they make him a DH.

 

I would assume that Fielder would be a DH right away regardless of whether he went to the Yankees or Red Sox. The Yankees' lineup with Tex and ARod batting 3-4 and then Prince hitting 5th as the DH is a terrifying idea.

[daske17]

Let's just sign Prince Fielder.

I'm all for this.

 

Me too. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded to and locked up long term by the Yankees or Red Sox before he hits FA.

 

Yankees don't really have a place for him unless they make him a DH.

 

I would assume that Fielder would be a DH right away regardless of whether he went to the Yankees or Red Sox. The Yankees' lineup with Tex and ARod batting 3-4 and then Prince hitting 5th as the DH is a terrifying idea.

 

And if their dream comes true, they'll have Granderson and Crawford at the top of the lineup... Oy, I wish the Cubs had the right people in place to make a lineup like that happen.

[dew1679666265]

And if their dream comes true, they'll have Granderson and Crawford at the top of the lineup... Oy, I wish the Cubs had the right people in place to make a lineup like that happen.

 

Those players alone would account for $102 million (not counting raises to Jeter, Fielder and Crawford – none of which are under contract for next year). I'm using 2010 salaries for all those three of those guys and could easily see that number jump to $110-$115 million per year. It'd be hard for the Cubs, under the current budget, to put a team around those guys. No matter who the people in charge are.

 

Unless you mean you want the Steinbrenners as owners. That could make it a possibility. :D

[ManEatingTarp]

I read that he's going to chase a 200 Million Dollar deal.

 

The idea of him playing in his late 30s and making 25+ a year? You thought the Soriano contract was bad...

[inari]

No way we can get him without letting go of Castro and Colvin.

 

They can ask, but they will get a no on Castro. But the Cubs, IMO, still have enough to land AGon without including Castro.

 

Ah. Why in the world do you think that, again?