College Basketball 2010-11

[SouthSideRyan]

Sounds like the coach jumped the gun on twitter a little bit. He said "Grades and God willing, Iowa is where it's at for Macari Brooks." Apparently there's strong mutual interest and he's visiting but nothing about a commitment yet.

 

Also saw that Josh Ogelsby trimmed his list to 4: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Arizona State.

 

I'm not really sold on Oglesby, and it really wouldn't matter, and we'd probably wind up with somebody just as good, and yeah it'd be because he grew up loving Iowa, and this is a very long, awful sentence, but I don't want him to wind up at Iowa.

 

I'm pretty sure it's us or you guys though.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

Sounds like the coach jumped the gun on twitter a little bit. He said "Grades and God willing, Iowa is where it's at for Macari Brooks." Apparently there's strong mutual interest and he's visiting but nothing about a commitment yet.

 

Also saw that Josh Ogelsby trimmed his list to 4: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Arizona State.

 

I'm not really sold on Oglesby, and it really wouldn't matter, and we'd probably wind up with somebody just as good, and yeah it'd be because he grew up loving Iowa, and this is a very long, awful sentence, but I don't want him to wind up at Iowa.

 

I'm pretty sure it's us or you guys though.

 

I'm not going to lose sleep over Oglesby. Great shooter, but that skill can be found in a number of different players. Get Randle and Oglesby becomes a nice afterthought. It's more fun to hate Iowa when they are relevant so if he doesn't end up at Illinois then I guess I'm not opposed to him taking the offer from the home state school.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

 

Yep, I've never seen that one before. Think what you might of the Sun-Times (utter tripe), but it's still a big name paper outright accusing a school of cheating (and with a specific number!)

 

Is it possible the UK deck of cards collapses on Cal before FIU's does on Isiah?

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

 

Yep, I've never seen that one before. Think what you might of the Sun-Times (utter tripe), but it's still a big name paper outright accusing a school of cheating (and with a specific number!)

 

Is it possible the UK deck of cards collapses on Cal before FIU's does on Isiah?

 

Even if they prove it, I don't see the spineless NCAA wont dropping the hammer on one of the bluebloods. Cal will leave for the NBA, rumors will follow, and it will all quietly be done away with.

[illiniguy]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

It's awesome. What is UK gonna do sue for libel? And open up their recruitment tactics?

[SouthSideRyan]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

 

Yep, I've never seen that one before. Think what you might of the Sun-Times (utter tripe), but it's still a big name paper outright accusing a school of cheating (and with a specific number!)

 

Is it possible the UK deck of cards collapses on Cal before FIU's does on Isiah?

 

Even if they prove it, I don't see the spineless NCAA wont dropping the hammer on one of the bluebloods. Cal will leave for the NBA, rumors will follow, and it will all quietly be done away with.

 

I think Cal's getting too cocky. He's smart enough to not be paying the players directly, but an exact # leaking out sounds like bad news to me. Cal hasn't exactly been loved by his peers over the past 15 years, and him pulling in nothing but top 10 kids is gonna start opening some mouths. If he comes down due to outrage from fellow coaches, the NCAA is going to have to do something drastic.

[illiniguy]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

I'm really surprised they allowed him to publish the 200k figure. Rumors are one thing, but putting it in a major newspaper is quite another.

 

Yep, I've never seen that one before. Think what you might of the Sun-Times (utter tripe), but it's still a big name paper outright accusing a school of cheating (and with a specific number!)

 

Is it possible the UK deck of cards collapses on Cal before FIU's does on Isiah?

 

Even if they prove it, I don't see the spineless NCAA wont dropping the hammer on one of the bluebloods. Cal will leave for the NBA, rumors will follow, and it will all quietly be done away with.

 

I think Cal's getting too cocky. He's smart enough to not be paying the players directly, but an exact # leaking out sounds like bad news to me. Cal hasn't exactly been loved by his peers over the past 15 years, and him pulling in nothing but top 10 kids is gonna start opening some mouths. If he comes down due to outrage from fellow coaches, the NCAA is going to have to do something drastic.

He needs to be careful. He's not just beating out the Illinois and Notre Dame's for these guys, he's taking them from K and Roy. It'll be interesting to see what happens when those type guys start to publicly bitch about him.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

There's a long proud history of cheating at Kentucky. If this was happening at say Minnesota, another school with a proud cheating history, we'd be looking at the death penalty. Instead, I think a three year post season ban and loss in scholarships is the max that will come of this.

[SouthSideRyan]

Didn't Gary Williams mention something about somebody in his area who was blatantly cheating? Was that ever determined who he was talking about? He seems the I don't give a [expletive] type who would publically call out Cal if he saw a kid they fought over go to UK. Did Romar ever say anything following what's his face "commitment"?

[illiniguy]

Didn't Gary Williams mention something about somebody in his area who was blatantly cheating? Was that ever determined who he was talking about? He seems the I don't give a [expletive] type who would publically call out Cal if he saw a kid they fought over go to UK. Did Romar ever say anything following what's his face "commitment"?

Gary Williams I could see writing a hell of a book when he retires.

[SouthSideRyan]

Didn't Gary Williams mention something about somebody in his area who was blatantly cheating? Was that ever determined who he was talking about? He seems the I don't give a [expletive] type who would publically call out Cal if he saw a kid they fought over go to UK. Did Romar ever say anything following what's his face "commitment"?

Gary Williams I could see writing a hell of a book when he retires.

 

In sweat

[illiniguy]

Didn't Gary Williams mention something about somebody in his area who was blatantly cheating? Was that ever determined who he was talking about? He seems the I don't give a [expletive] type who would publically call out Cal if he saw a kid they fought over go to UK. Did Romar ever say anything following what's his face "commitment"?

Gary Williams I could see writing a hell of a book when he retires.

 

In sweat

Of course. I love old Gil,I mean Gary.

[apete6]

There's a long proud history of cheating at Kentucky. If this was happening at say Minnesota, another school with a proud cheating history, we'd be looking at the death penalty. Instead, I think a three year post season ban and loss in scholarships is the max that will come of this.

 

Ya, they'll get the USC treatment. However, if Cal finally gets brought into all of this, he's cooked.

[SouthSideRyan]

There's a long proud history of cheating at Kentucky. If this was happening at say Minnesota, another school with a proud cheating history, we'd be looking at the death penalty. Instead, I think a three year post season ban and loss in scholarships is the max that will come of this.

 

Ya, they'll get the USC treatment. However, if Cal finally gets brought into all of this, he's cooked.

 

Just like Pete Carroll...

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

There's a long proud history of cheating at Kentucky. If this was happening at say Minnesota, another school with a proud cheating history, we'd be looking at the death penalty. Instead, I think a three year post season ban and loss in scholarships is the max that will come of this.

 

Ya, they'll get the USC treatment. However, if Cal finally gets brought into all of this, he's cooked.

 

Kelvin Sampson got a show cause ruling for making phone calls. What does Cal get, a lifetime ban.

 

Stuff like this just proves the stupidity of the NBA age limit. These kids are just mercenaries brought in for a year, who care little about their education. I don't think the NCAA can mandate a kid stay in school against his will if he accepts a scholarship, but something needs to be done

[SouthSideRyan]

The problem is it's the NBA's rule, not the NCAA. The NCAA can't mandate that a kid stay in school for more than 1 year. I don't know what the NCAA can offer up to the NBA to get them to dump that awful rule. The best thing for everyone would have been to have Brandon Jennings venture to Europe be a huge success. From there, you'd have more kids following him to Europe, and eventually some staying there. The NBA would get wise, dump the rule and welcome in everybody.

 

ETA: Sampson got a show cause for repeatedly violating the same rules. It was the disregard for NCAA rules and violating probation that got him the book thrown at him. Cal has the same disregard, but his violations are far worse. But as I said, it will all be tied to boosters whenever the hammer comes down (probably farther away than any of us think), and he'll for the 3rd time be "cleared of any wrongdoing" as another Cal coached team has a final 4 revoked. (UK will still hang the banner)

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

What was Stern's argument for adopting the rule in the first place? Too much drafting based on potential? Too much money too young?

[SpongeWorthy]

It was some specious argument about wanting more mature men coming into the league.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah there was no real argument for it, but nobody cared becuase the general public was sick of these young punks in the nba when they should be getting an education just like Larry Bird and Chris Mullin did.

[Magnetic Curses]

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2566462,080410-anthony-davis-kentucky.article

 

Source says Anthony Davis to Kentucky, and that it set them back 200K

 

he also willfully ignored the illini at every turn. the kid was waiting for money.

[Magnetic Curses]

Yeah there was no real argument for it, but nobody cared becuase the general public was sick of these young punks in the nba when they should be getting an education just like Larry Bird and Chris Mullin did.

 

i think you should be able to jump right away or have to wait 3 years.

 

i watch more college basketball than pro basketball and i like seeing pro-prospects, not jon scheyer.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah there was no real argument for it, but nobody cared becuase the general public was sick of these young punks in the nba when they should be getting an education just like Larry Bird and Chris Mullin did.

 

i think you should be able to jump right away or have to wait 3 years.

 

i watch more college basketball than pro basketball and i like seeing pro-prospects, not jon scheyer.

 

I think you'd have an overrun of high school kids in the NBDL that way, which is fine by me. Europe would benefit quite a bit too. I think you'd get a lot more kids not going to college under that plan compared to the leave whenever you want plan.

[Magnetic Curses]

Yeah there was no real argument for it, but nobody cared becuase the general public was sick of these young punks in the nba when they should be getting an education just like Larry Bird and Chris Mullin did.

 

i think you should be able to jump right away or have to wait 3 years.

 

i watch more college basketball than pro basketball and i like seeing pro-prospects, not jon scheyer.

 

I think you'd have an overrun of high school kids in the NBDL that way, which is fine by me. Europe would benefit quite a bit too. I think you'd get a lot more kids not going to college under that plan compared to the leave whenever you want plan.

 

cal would have to compete with benetton treviso or whatever. i wouldn't care.