2010 NCAA Mock Tournament Selection Committee

[bukie]

The other thing WVU's win did is officially open up an at-large spot, since only teams already in the field are left in the Big East tourney. The same is true of the Big 12 tourney, which has actually gone true to form with Kansas, K-State, Baylor and Texas A&M advancing to the semis.

[Vanilla Ice]

Damn, Washington down to Oregon State at the half. Does anybody want to make the tournament?

[JockJones]

Damn, Washington down to Oregon State at the half. Does anybody want to make the tournament?

 

Yes. I would love for all these teams to keep losing. And tomorrow I would like San Diego St, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Illinois, Ga Tech, Tulsa, Rhode Island, and Dayton to lose as well. That might just open up a bid for Wichita St. A guy can dream, can't he? :D)

[JockJones]

The Oregon St - Washington game was one of the ugliest games I have ever watched. The Pac-10 is awful.......

[CubInOK]

The Oregon St - Washington game was one of the ugliest games I have ever watched. The Pac-10 is awful.......

If Washington gets beat tomorrow and Cal wins, I think Cal must win the Pac-10 championship game to earn a bid. I don't think they can survive losing to either UCLA or Stanford.

[bukie]

20 minutes left to send in your two lists. I've received 4 so far.

[shnsajax]

Hypothetical, but if Baylor wins out they finish the season 27-6. What seed would you give them a #2 or #3?

[Old Style]

Damn, Washington down to Oregon State at the half. Does anybody want to make the tournament?

 

Yes. I would love for all these teams to keep losing. And tomorrow I would like San Diego St, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Illinois, Ga Tech, Tulsa, Rhode Island, and Dayton to lose as well. That might just open up a bid for Wichita St. A guy can dream, can't he? :D)

Thank you for our coach, by the way.

[Old Style]

Hypothetical, but if Baylor wins out they finish the season 27-6. What seed would you give them a #2 or #3?

That would mean beating K-State and KU (barring an A&M upset today), but I still think a #2 is too high. A 3 seed would be appropriate, IMHO.

[shnsajax]

Hypothetical, but if Baylor wins out they finish the season 27-6. What seed would you give them a #2 or #3?

That would mean beating K-State and KU (barring an A&M upset today), but I still think a #2 is too high. A 3 seed would be appropriate, IMHO.

 

Exactly that would give them two huge profile wins and their record would be similar to those in the #5-10 current rankings. I don't think it will happen either way, but I think they are capable of it.

[Guest]

They'd probably be worthy of a 2, or at the very least a higher seed than K-State. In that situation, Baylor is 9-4 against tourney teams, won the title of one of the top 2 conferences, and has one opponent on their schedule that they haven't beaten. K-State is somewhere between 7-5 and 8-6 against tourney teams, lost 3 of 4, and doesn't have a huge win in their resume to put them past BU.

[SouthSideRyan]

Am I too late? I couldn't get my wireless to work last night.

[bukie]

No, hurry up! :)

[bukie]

I'll wait another 15 minutes, and then I'll just post the results I have (I have 5 entries total). If you didn't get yours in yet, hurry up.

[SouthSideRyan]

Sent, thanks.

[bukie]

Here's my lists:

 

Top 16 available:

 

West Virginia

Ohio State

Wisconsin

Kansas State

Villanova

Purdue

Baylor

New Mexico

Temple

Butler

Texas A&M

Pittsburgh

Maryland

BYU

Michigan State

Vanderbilt

 

 

Bottom 8 bubbles:

 

Memphis

UAB

Arizona State

Cincinnati

South Florida

Rhode Island

Mississippi State

San Diego State

 

[bukie]

And here are the results:

 

12 to the S-Curve:

5. West Virginia (15.5)

6. Ohio State (13.83)

7. Kansas State (13.67)

8. Purdue (13.67)

9. Villanova (11.5)

10. Wisconsin (10.67)

11. New Mexico (10.5)

12. Baylor (8.167)

13. Michigan State (6.667)

14. Pittsburgh (5.833)

15. Butler (5.167)

16. Tennessee (4.667)

 

 

Four removed from consideration:

Memphis

UAB

South Florida

Cincinnati

[SouthSideRyan]

Seriously, Mississippi St has a terrible resume

[bukie]

Today's agenda:

 

1 - Bracket construction - Finish placing the top 4 seeds into our bracket, and assign pods for them (in discussion on board today).

2 - Bubble completion - Rank the 16 remaining teams in the bubble in order. SSR and I will put Illinois where we think they should go, but the points associated with them will not count for or against them.

3 - Auto bid ranking - There are 13 unplaced auto bids, and an additional 7 (America East, Big West, MAC, MEAC, Patriot, Southland, SWAC) where none of the teams are even in discussion for a bid. I'll post the data for the highest remaining rated team in each of those tournaments, and I want you to send me a list of all those auto bids (20) ranked in order.

4 - S-Curve continues - Rank me the next 16 teams in order from the at-large and auto bid list (yes, I realize this means you may get, like, St. Mary's or Northern Iowa in two lists, but that's fine). Old Style can include A&M where he thinks they should go and Andy can put ND where he thinks they should go, but as with the bubble list, the points associated with them will not count for nor against them (also TT with Mizzou).

 

So, send me 3 lists by 8am CST tomorrow, and build the top 4 seeds into the bracket with discussion in the thread.

Edited March 12, 2010 by bukie

[SouthSideRyan]

Have we established a ranking of the 1s after the Cuse loss? I'd put Duke above them, but I think I'm alone on this?

[bukie]

I think the 1 seed line should be Kansas, Duke, Syracuse, Kentucky right now, but Duke is currently below Kentucky on the seed line as is. I think Syracuse is still safe where it is, in general.

[SouthSideRyan]

I agree with your 1 seed ranking

[bukie]

Here are all the auto bids I want you all to rank:

 

Team                 W  L  top25  26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS   R+N
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cornell (Ivy)       27  4    0-2    0-0    2-1    10-0 13-1 218    78  14-3
E Tenn St (ASun)    20 14    0-0    0-2    0-3     8-5 11-4 206    30  11-9
Montana (BSky)      22  9    0-0    0-1    0-0    11-4  9-4 310   131   8-7
Murray State (OVC)  30  4    0-1    0-0    2-1     4-2 22-0 297   307  15-4
North Texas (SB)    24  8    0-1    0-1    0-0     5-2 16-4 155   128  12-6
Northern Iowa (MVC) 28  4    0-0    1-0    8-1    13-2  5-1 114   162  14-4
Oakland (SUM)       26  8    0-4    0-1    0-0     6-3 18-0 191    13  13-7
Old Dominion (CAA)  26  8    1-1    0-2    4-3     8-1 13-0 112    33  11-8
Robert Morris (NEC) 23 11    0-1    0-1    0-3     6-5 17-2 310   131  11-8
Siena (MAAC)        27  6    0-1    0-3    1-1    18-1  7-0 167   104  10-6
St. Mary's (WCC)    26  5    0-0    3-3    3-2     7-0 12-0 155   128  12-3
Winthrop (BSth)     19 13    0-1    0-1    0-3     2-4 15-5 306    88  7-11
Wofford (SC)        26  8    0-1    0-1    2-2     8-4 15-0 207    86  15-7
AE (Boston U)       19 12    0-1    0-2    1-1     3-7 15-1 245    80  10-8
BW (Pacific)        20 10    0-1    1-2    1-0     3-4 15-3 210   131   9-6
MAC (Ohio)          19 14    0-0    0-1    2-4     7-6  8-3 164   159  6-10
MEAC (Morgan St)    25  9    0-1    0-2    0-1     3-3 22-2 304   171  14-8
Patriot (Lehigh)    21 10    0-0    0-2    0-0     1-3 20-5 328   346   7-8
SL (Sam Houston St) 24  7    0-1    0-0    1-1     5-2 14-3 235    92  11-6
SWAC (Arkansas PB)  15 15    0-2    0-4    0-2     0-3 15-4 301     1  7-14

 

And yes, Arkansas-Pine Bluff is actually 1-14 against the top 300. And that's the best team left in that tournament.

[ISUCubsFan]

And yes, Arkansas-Pine Bluff is actually 1-14 against the top 300. And that's the best team left in that tournament.

Fri Nov 13 	(91) Colorado 	     L, 88-72 
Sun Nov 15 	(190) Denver 	      L, 75-56
Wed Nov 18 	(34) Texas El Paso 	L, 70-52 
Fri Nov 27 	(116) Akron 	       L, 68-65
Mon Nov 30 	(40) Arizona St. 	  L, 74-57
Sat Dec 5 	 (65) Michigan 	     L, 67-53
Sun Dec 13 	(43) Oklahoma St. 	 L, 81-66 	 
Wed Dec 16 	(31) Georgia Tech 	 L, 65-53
Sat Dec 19 	(22) Missouri 	     L, 88-70
Mon Dec 21 	(10) Kansas St. 	   L, 90-76
Mon Dec 28 	(124) Oregon 	      L, 73-53

They're headed for the play-in game for sure, but I have to give them credit for playing that non-conference schedule (all road games) and not losing by more than 20.

 

As for the 1 seeds, I would go Kansas, Syracuse, Duke, Kentucky for now. Flip Duke and Syracuse if Duke wins the ACC, though there's virtually no difference between 2 and 3 overall. If Duke loses and Kentucky wins the SEC you could probably flip them as well.

[Andy]

So Kansas State goes to Oklahoma City pod then right? That's the only one I think is a reasonable assumption off the top of my head.