2010 NCAA Mock Tournament Selection Committee

[Andy]

Here's a debate starter:

 

Do any Pac-10 teams deserve at-large bids?

Just looking at their raw numbers (record, RPI, SOS), Cal might, but they don't have any good wins. Lunardi has ASU stealling an at-large, FWIW.

[Cubswin11]

Here's a debate starter:

 

Do any Pac-10 teams deserve at-large bids?

Just looking at their raw numbers (record, RPI, SOS), Cal might, but they don't have any good wins. Lunardi has ASU stealling an at-large, FWIW.

If both Cal and ASU make the championship in the Pac Ten tournament and it's a close game I could see the loser getting an at large bid. I guess a case could be made for Washington, if they make the championship (by beating ASU) and lose a close game to Cal.

Edited March 9, 2010 by Cubswin11

[ISUCubsFan]

Here's a debate starter:

 

Do any Pac-10 teams deserve at-large bids?

 

Cal is probably in. Good wins are Washington, Arizona St. x2, and Murray St. Only 2 really terrible losses in Oregon State and UCLA, and 4 of their 9 losses are to probable top 3 seeds. In short, their profile is awful but I can't find enough teams to put over them. Washington and ASU (in that order) are just outside for me.

[bukie]

Here's a debate starter:

 

Do any Pac-10 teams deserve at-large bids?

 

Cal is probably in. Good wins are Washington, Arizona St. x2, and Murray St. Only 2 really terrible losses in Oregon State and UCLA, and 4 of their 9 losses are to probable top 3 seeds. In short, their profile is awful but I can't find enough teams to put over them. Washington and ASU (in that order) are just outside for me.

The only team with really decent OOC wins is USC, which is ineligible for the postseason and finished .500 in league play. If Cal makes the conference tournament finals, then maybe I see them and the winner getting in, otherwise I think it's a one-bid year for the Pac-10.

[SouthSideRyan]

Washington beat A&M

[bukie]

Also, Old Dominion, Siena, Wofford and St. Mary's all get auto bids tonight, and Gonzaga goes to the consideration board automatically (and this one may actually stick around a while).

[bukie]

Washington beat A&M

I meant wins as in more than one. Washington got A&M, Cal got Murray State, ASU got SDSU.

[bukie]

I've now received 8 entries (me makes 9) to this point. Still have about 22 hours to get them in if you're interested.

[bukie]

North Texas beat Troy in the Sun Belt final, sending North Texas to the auto bid group and Troy (again, likely briefly) to the consideration board.

 

Note: You have 12 hours to send me lists if you wish to participate.

[bukie]

Butler takes the Horizon easily, and joins the Auto Bid pile.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm gonna go ahead and say I've never been less impressed by a team that led by 29 points at one point. Seton Hall looked like garbage.

[bukie]

Oakland wins the Summit League to grab the last bid of the night.

 

I have a total of 9 entries now (+ me = 10), anyone else, you have 8 hours. To this point, it looks as if we have 26 at-large locks and 38 teams in consideration from anywhere between 8 and 15 bids depending how multi-bid conferences shake out.

[Andy]

I'm gonna go ahead and say I've never been less impressed by a team that led by 29 points at one point. Seton Hall looked like garbage.

Do I take this to mean that you don't have the Hall in if they beat ND tomorrow?

 

Because I don't know if I would, either.

[bukie]

That's the deadline. 10 members:

 

bukie - Illinois

Andy - Notre Dame

ISUCubsFan - Iowa State

Old Style - Texas A&M

Transmogrified Tiger - Missouri

CubInOK - Oklahoma

SouthSideRyan - Illinois

reds44 - Northern Illinois

Flames24Rulz - Southern Illinois

Vanilla Ice - Duke

 

From the lists, here are the 26 teams that are locked into the field (alpha order):

Baylor

BYU

Clemson

Duke

Georgetown

Gonzaga

Kansas

Kansas State

Kentucky

Maryland

Michigan State

Missouri

New Mexico

Ohio State

Pittsburgh

Purdue

Syracuse

Temple

Tennessee

Texas

Texas A&M

Vanderbilt

Villanova

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Xavier

 

36 teams in consideration:

Arizona State

California

Charlotte

Cincinnati

Coastal Carolina

Connecticut

Dayton

Florida

Florida State

Georgia Tech

Illinois

Lipscomb

Louisville

Marquette

Memphis

Minnesota

Mississippi

Mississippi State

Notre Dame

Oklahoma State

Rhode Island

Richmond

Saint Louis

San Diego State

Seton Hall

South Florida

Stony Brook

Troy

UAB

UNLV

Utah State

UTEP

Virginia Tech

Wake Forest

Washington

William & Mary

 

 

So the next step for today:

1 - Get the list of at-large teams to 34 - PM me your top 16 teams in order for consideration. Illinois reps aren't to include Illinois, but it won't count against them.

2 - Start building the S-Curve - PM me your top 8 teams from the teams in the field (includes locks and auto bids). I have the information in the first post on auto bids earned thus far.

3 - Pare down the bubble - PM me your bottom 8 teams in order to remove from the bubble.

Edited March 10, 2010 by bukie

[Vanilla Ice]

I am somewhat surprised that Louisville, Marquette, Oklahoma State, and UTEP were not locks.

[bukie]

And just so everyone is on the level, here were my picks:

 

Team - Illinois

 

Locks (29):

 

Baylor

BYU

Clemson

Duke

Florida State

Georgetown

Gonzaga

Kansas

Kansas State

Kentucky

Louisville

Marquette

Maryland

Michigan State

Missouri

New Mexico

Ohio State

Pittsburgh

Purdue

Syracuse

Temple

Tennessee

Texas

Texas A&M

Vanderbilt

Villanova

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Xavier

 

 

Considerations (22):

 

Arizona State

California

Dayton

Florida

Georgia Tech

Memphis

Minnesota

Mississippi

Mississippi State

Notre Dame

Oklahoma State

Richmond

San Diego State

Seton Hall

UAB

UNLV

Utah State

UTEP

VCU

Virginia Tech

Wake Forest

Washington

 

[bukie]

Also, I will be updating the first post shortly with one-line "nitty gritty" reports on all the teams on the board, like I did for the current auto bids.

[bukie]

Also, let the discussion begin as to who should be in, who shouldn't be on the board, and who should be a #1 seed.

 

EDIT: I'll start: Duke should be a lock for a 1 seed, more than even Kentucky.

[Old Style]

I think Kansas, Kentucky, and Syracuse are definite #1's. The fourth is up for debate, IMO. I think West Virginia deserves some consideration, along with Duke

[SouthSideRyan]

I think Kentucky better not lose to a crappy SEC team in their tourney if they want to keep the 1 seed.

 

I think those low major at larges need to get off the list. Connecticut and Charlotte too.

[CubInOK]

Lipscomb??? Am I reading that right?

[bukie]

Lipscomb??? Am I reading that right?

Automatically placed there due to them winning the regular season conference title but not the tournament.

[Vanilla Ice]

I think Kansas and Syracuse are locks for #1 seeds. If Kentucky loses early and two of West Virginia, Ohio State, and Purdue were to win their conference tournament, I could see them getting dropped to the two line. Kentucky's best win is Vanderbilt and Tennessee. Their schedule was awful.

 

(I can't include Duke)

 

Wichita State and William and Mary need to get off too.

[Vanilla Ice]

For the Big 10 guys, what games did Turner miss?

[SouthSideRyan]

For the Big 10 guys, what games did Turner miss?

 

The losses @ Butler, @ Wisconsin, and @ Michigan.