Re: 2009-10 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Flames24Rulz]

So we beat Phoenix, Houston, and the Spurs on the road but lose to the Warriors and Clippers. Strange.

 

I'll take it though. Three straight wins on the road against playoff contenders in a much more balanced conference is extremely impressive.

[Old Style]

Is Carlos Boozer a FA?

 

What about a lineup of:

 

Rose

Wade

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

That would look mighty nice, no?

[Soul]

Very nice to see.

[David]

Is Carlos Boozer a FA?

 

What about a lineup of:

 

Rose

Wade

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

That would look mighty nice, no?

 

 

It would be interesting to see. Literally no 3 pt shooting whatsoever.

[RedFlash]

Is Carlos Boozer a FA?

 

What about a lineup of:

 

Rose

Wade

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

That would look mighty nice, no?

 

Very nice, backup plan. I prefer Rose/Johnson/Deng/Bosh/Noah.

[Old Style]

Is Carlos Boozer a FA?

 

What about a lineup of:

 

Rose

Wade

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

That would look mighty nice, no?

 

Very nice, backup plan. I prefer Rose/Johnson/Deng/Bosh/Noah.

Is that doable under the cap? If so, I'll go with your lineup.

[RedFlash]

Is Carlos Boozer a FA?

 

What about a lineup of:

 

Rose

Wade

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

That would look mighty nice, no?

 

Very nice, backup plan. I prefer Rose/Johnson/Deng/Bosh/Noah.

Is that doable under the cap? If so, I'll go with your lineup.

 

Prolly would have to trade for Bosh now and work out a sign and trade in the offseason to make it happen. And chances are the Bulls have to trade Deng at some point to make it happen. But Johnson/Bosh is my dream for the offseason.

[WrigleyField 22]

That would be the ideal possibility. Could you imagine a better scenario than having room for two max 2010 FA's while still having Rose and Noah locked into the team?

 

 

Awesome.

The only way we will get two max free agents is to move Deng fwiw.

 

Besides there aren't that many free agents available worth the max. Despite all the hype there is a great possibility that Bosh, Wade, and Lebron all stay put. And even if one leaves, we will be in competition with other teams still.

 

I wouldn't waste my time having cap space for more than one max guy.

 

Now, if I could give myself a little extra cap space so I can fill out the roster with better than minimum contract guys, I'd be pleased.

 

Wouldn't we have enough to sign 2 max deals if we move Kirk (9.5mil) and Salmon's options out (6.5) with Miller (12.25) and James (6.6) coming off the books. We wouldn't have enough to also resign Tyrus, I don't believe, but wouldn't we have enough for Joe Johnson and either Bosh or Amare?

Okay without Salmons and Kirk, the Bulls are sitting at $22,850,976 for 5 players. They will have a cap hold for their first round pick that I'll estimate at 1.6M. For the remaining spots, they will need a minumum salary cap hold. I'll estimate each of those at $460K times 6 (to meet the 12 player minimum). That leaves them with a cap commitment of $27,210,976. The first year of Bosh is $16,568,908. Amare $17,197,241. JJ's is a bit harder, because we need to establish what the cap will be. Recent projections are actually more optimistic than before, so I'll use $55M. That would make JJ's max $16.5M. I'm going to use Bosh as he is cheaper and a better player than Amare, and JJ.

 

So take:

_27,210,976

+16,568,908

+16,500,000

$60,279,884

 

That is well over any possible cap number. At best, the cap number will be equal to this year $57,700,000. With current projections it looks like between 54 - 56.7M.

 

Now it would be possible to do this and go for something like Wade/Lee or Bosh/Morrow or something like that, which you could make an argument for. Two max contracts are not happening without trading Deng. Even if you move Gibson and Johnson for cap space and sell off the first rounder, the cap would need to be $57,228,604 to fit JJ and Bosh.

It makes so very little difference, but I found the exact numbers for different holds:

 

The minimum cap hold will actually be $473,604, adding an additional $13K per cap hold. Not a huge difference in the long run, but a little. On the other hand I overestimated a little on our rookie cap hold, which is we make the playoffs will be at most $1,443,300 and as low as $1,181,800 for the 19th pick (can't imagine much lower than that).

Rookie Scale/Holds

Click on #41 for Min Salaries

[David]

http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/126695/rose.JPG

[Garwilly]

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Why is NBA 08 sponsoring things?

[David]

Yea, that's weird.

[illiniguy]

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Why is NBA 08 sponsoring things?

They are very proud of that years version? Doesn't say much for the newer ones I guess.

[Magnetic Curses]

i don't know how the thunder is going to pull this out but they are.

[Sammy Sofa]

i don't know how the thunder is going to pull this out but they are.

 

Have faith, sir.

[Andy]

What in the world got into this team? Whatever it is, please don't let it get back out.

[Sammy Sofa]

Now THAT is how you cap a win.

[bukie]

That Derrick Rose kid is pretty good.

[17 Seconds]

why did the thunder announcer just say "kevin durant is worthy of all-star consideration"?

 

yeah, i'm pretty sure he's a little better than that

[Derwood]

4 in a row on the road (all to potential playoff teams) and we're back to .500.

 

please Please PLEASE don't turn around and lose to a bunch of teams like the Nets, now

[DivineBovine]

What's going on? This team hasn't been able to string together road wins in years. 4-0 against winning teams in the West? I'm dumbfounded. Let's keep it going!

 

Hey, what happened to the Fire VDN talk?

[Magnetic Curses]

What in the world got into this team? Whatever it is, please don't let it get back out.

 

i got a little squirrely when durant hit that 3.

[Sammy Sofa]

Hey, what happened to the Fire VDN talk?

 

It became very clear a while back that the Bulls weren't going to fire him until the season was over. As bad as they've been with the coaches they've hired in recent years their interim coaches have been nightmarishly worse, and that's not the situation you want to put a team this young into.

[bukie]

Bulls are now back to .500 already after that awful start, and just one game out of the 5 seed spot.

[bcl412]

With Rose playing the way he is, is it safe to say that this team will be a playoff team?

[Derwood]

Bulls are now back to .500 already after that awful start, and just one game out of the 5 seed spot.

 

I'd be pretty happy with a 45-47 win season considering how badly they started. Moving as far up as a 4 seed would be amazing