Rudy Jaramillo signs, Von Joshua back to Iowa

[Guest]

Carrie Muskat[/url]"]The Cubs had hoped Joshua could get Geovany Soto, Ryan Theriot and Mike Fontenot on track, but opted not to keep Joshua with the big league team for 2010. Joshua will return to the Minor League club as its hitting coach.

 

Interesting video of Jaramillo in the link: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091014&content_id=7454244&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[davell]

He had a good repor with Bradley too, didn't he?

:rotfl:

 

:D Crap. I guess I should have rapport......

[J.R.]

Does $800k a year for a hitting coach seem a little high or is it just me? Admittedly, I don't know what other hitting coaches make, and it doesn't matter at all, I'm just curious.

 

I think somebody on here posted that Duncan makes $800,000 with the Cardinals and that's the most amongst coaches (non-managers) in MLB. Also, I think Jaramillo used to be second on that list and now has taken over first, at least for now.

 

Per John Hayman on MLBN, Jaramillo's take is some $400,000 more than the next-best-paid hitting coach (Mattingly.)

[Guest]

Jaramillo made $500,000 last year and was offered a 10% raise by Texas this offseason.

[hardcorecubfan]

Whose his first project? So many to choose from :-k

[RedFlash]

Whose his first project? So many to choose from :-k

 

My guess...........Soriano, then Soto, and perhaps Fontenot. IMO, it has to be in the order for the Cubs to have a successful offense next yr.

[Clem Fandango]

Huzzah. Now he can fix Corey Patterson

[CUBZ99]

Huzzah. Now he can fix Corey Patterson

 

and Felix Pie and Ronnie Cedeno

[Sammy Sofa]

Huzzah. Now he can fix Corey Patterson

 

and Felix Pie and Ronnie Cedeno

 

Pie might not need anymore fixing.

[David]

He had a good repor with Bradley too, didn't he?

:rotfl:

 

 

Is that really necessary?

[AI]

Jaramillo made $500,000 last year and was offered a 10% raise by Texas this offseason.

Not true.

 

I can't find the DMN blog article, but Rudy made 425k or so and was only offered a 3% cost of living increase on a one year deal. The Rangers felt the message had gotten stale and wanted a new voice. It was the Seinfeld "nonvitation" as the DMN described it.

[SouthSideRyan]

He had a good repor with Bradley too, didn't he?

:rotfl:

 

 

Is that really necessary?

 

Judging by Old Style's history I think the uproarious laughter was over somebody having a good rapport with someone...which is worthy of uproarious laughter...ya know, if I used smilies.

[SouthSideRyan]

Jaramillo made $500,000 last year and was offered a 10% raise by Texas this offseason.

Not true.

 

I can't find the DMN blog article, but Rudy made 425k or so and was only offered a 3% cost of living increase on a one year deal. The Rangers felt the message had gotten stale and wanted a new voice. It was the Seinfeld "nonvitation" as the DMN described it.

 

Well the Bruce Levine article on ESPNChicago had him making $650,000 last year, which is about what I had heard he made somewhere else.

[Gmoney08]

Whose his first project? So many to choose from :-k

 

My guess...........Soriano, then Soto, and perhaps Fontenot. IMO, it has to be in the order for the Cubs to have a successful offense next yr.

 

I hope Milton Bradley is one of this projects.

[soapy]

Whose his first project? So many to choose from :-k

 

My guess...........Soriano, then Soto, and perhaps Fontenot. IMO, it has to be in the order for the Cubs to have a successful offense next yr.

 

I hope Milton Bradley is one of this projects.

 

Looks like Jim is still trying to let everyone know how desperate he is to unload Milton: Link

 

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Wednesday that Jaramillo's hiring is in no way connected to trying to mend fences with Bradley, whom Hendry is trying to trade.

 

"Obviously, hiring Rudy had nothing to do with that," Hendry said of possibly reconciling with Bradley. "Just like I told you at the end of the year, we play the cards that we have. Milton's on the Cubs roster. That's how we go about it until somebody's not on the roster. It certainly didn't have any connection.

 

Seriously? You could've just left it at, "No. The two aren't necessarily related."

[CUBZ99]

Looks like Jim is still trying to let everyone know how desperate he is to unload Milton: Link

 

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Wednesday that Jaramillo's hiring is in no way connected to trying to mend fences with Bradley, whom Hendry is trying to trade.

 

"Obviously, hiring Rudy had nothing to do with that," Hendry said of possibly reconciling with Bradley. "Just like I told you at the end of the year, we play the cards that we have. Milton's on the Cubs roster. That's how we go about it until somebody's not on the roster. It certainly didn't have any connection.

 

Seriously? You could've just left it at, "No. The two aren't necessarily related."

 

 

Jaramillo is not going out of his way to keep Bradley. From Chicagosports.com

 

Jaramillo helped Bradley have his best year in 2008 in Texas, and said, "We got along great ... we knew what buttons to push."

 

And if he had to work with him again?

 

"That's not my choice," he said. "But I'll work with anyone."

[AI]

Jaramillo made $500,000 last year and was offered a 10% raise by Texas this offseason.

Not true.

 

I can't find the DMN blog article, but Rudy made 425k or so and was only offered a 3% cost of living increase on a one year deal. The Rangers felt the message had gotten stale and wanted a new voice. It was the Seinfeld "nonvitation" as the DMN described it.

 

Well the Bruce Levine article on ESPNChicago had him making $650,000 last year, which is about what I had heard he made somewhere else.

Turns out we're both wrong. Evan Grant of the DMN has written now multiple times that the offer was $545,000 for one year. That offer represents only a 3% cost of living increase from his 2009 salary.

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/101509dnspogrant.3ac80b5.html

[jersey cubs fan]

I really do not like all the hype surrounding this guy. He's just a hitting coach. The hitting coach for a team that has had one of the best hitters' parks for the past decade. They had this story all over the place, paid him a ridiculous contract for a coach and held a press conference just like they do with their big target free agent players. It just seems to me to be something they are going to use as a sign to the fans, "see, we fixed things."

 

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

bingo

[CUBZ99]

I really do not like all the hype surrounding this guy. He's just a hitting coach. The hitting coach for a team that has had one of the best hitters' parks for the past decade. They had this story all over the place, paid him a ridiculous contract for a coach and held a press conference just like they do with their big target free agent players. It just seems to me to be something they are going to use as a sign to the fans, "see, we fixed things."

 

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

 

I agree his signing has been over-hyped, but I disagree with you regarding the importance of his hiring.

 

Ideally, any coach that is on any given team has a goal to get the most talent out of every player that he coaches. Some coaches are able to click with certain players (Sosa and Pentland) (Rothschild and Dempster/Lilly) and make a tremendous impact on a player's career (rather perceived by the player or real). Jaramillo is well respected and often touted as the best in the business at his craft.

 

Looking at the Cubs lineup going into 2009, many of us and many pundits had the Cubs penciled in for the playoffs. The failure of the team to make the post season was caused by multiple factors, but the fact that several offense players severely underperformed was a big factor. I don't have a problem with Hendry trying to shake it up a bit and placing the emphasis on getting better performance from the players rather than spending his way out of this mess.

 

If Jaramillo can get Soriano's confidence back, or get Soto hitting again, help Baker have a career year, that would be extremely valuable to the club.

[Guest]

If Jaramillo can get Soriano's confidence back, or get Soto hitting again, help Baker have a career year, that would be extremely valuable to the club.

Lack of confidence is not Soriano's problem. Lou tried to get him to use a lighter bat, he refused. Soriano's problems probably cannot be fixed entirely, he's just getting old.

 

Soto had no spring training, got injured and never really recovered. He's probably not as good as the 2007-2008 version, but he's much better than the 2009 version. I don't think a hitting coach is going to do much with him.

 

Jeff Baker? seriously?

[daske17]

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

bingo

 

Logic: failing the Cubs organization since 1908.

[shnsajax]

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

bingo

 

Logic: failing the Cubs organization since 1908.

 

But it can make a difference, and enough of one to where if you can sign one of the better coaches in the game you go ahead and do it. Fans expect more out of him than the organization does.

[erik316wttn]

Does $800k a year for a hitting coach seem a little high or is it just me? Admittedly, I don't know what other hitting coaches make, and it doesn't matter at all, I'm just curious.

 

I think somebody on here posted that Duncan makes $800,000 with the Cardinals and that's the most amongst coaches (non-managers) in MLB. Also, I think Jaramillo used to be second on that list and now has taken over first, at least for now.

 

Per John Hayman on MLBN, Jaramillo's take is some $400,000 more than the next-best-paid hitting coach (Mattingly.)

 

if he can help the offense to perform like we all know it can, he's worth every penny.

[jersey cubs fan]

The hitting coach wasn't the problem. A new one isn't the solution. The flawed roster is the problem and unless it gets fixed, with more than just dumping Bradley's sourpuss it is going to remain a problem.

bingo

 

Logic: failing the Cubs organization since 1908.

 

But it can make a difference, and enough of one to where if you can sign one of the better coaches in the game you go ahead and do it. Fans expect more out of him than the organization does.

 

Not much of a difference. Sure, if you can get a good coach you do it and be happy about it. The problem is that all the hype they are bringing to this decision is a strong indication that this is one of the biggest moves they plan on making. Plus, it's another example of Hendry unnecessarily showering his "one and only" target with a huge contract. And what is the evidence that this guy is so good? He's had a productive offense with an organization that emphasizes offense and plays in a hitter's park and had many PED users? And baseball people say he's a good baseball man? These guys claim everybody in the game is great at their job. They're all among the most respected at their job. Doesn't make him the best. This is a sideshow acquisition. Label him the best, pay him the most, hold a press conference, and voila, you've got yourself a headliner for the Cubs convention.