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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!
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Apparently Milton Bradley can do no wrong. I hope he murders someone so I can hear the rationalization of it at NSBB.

 

"I'd murder someone, too, if stupid Jim Hendry suspended me for no reason! This should be the last straw in Hendry's tenure as GM. His terrible decisions finally cost someone their life."

 

"Milton Bradley got life in prison for murdering a family of four? How is that any worse than anything Big Z has done as a Cub? Why is there a double standard?"

 

"Did you ever think that slowly choking the life out of another human might be a stress reliever for Milton? He's been through a lot lately and I don't blame him for trying to release some of his frustration."

 

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Apparently Milton Bradley can do no wrong. I hope he murders someone so I can hear the rationalization of it at NSBB.

 

"I'd murder someone, too, if stupid Jim Hendry suspended me for no reason! This should be the last straw in Hendry's tenure as GM. His terrible decisions finally cost someone their life."

 

"Milton Bradley got life in prison for murdering a family of four? How is that any worse than anything Big Z has done as a Cub? Why is there a double standard?"

 

"Did you ever think that slowly choking the life out of another human might be a stress reliever for Milton? He's been through a lot lately and I don't blame him for trying to release some of his frustration."

 

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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

To be fair there's not a lot of positives we can give the man this year. He was pretty miserable...

 

I don't think anybody would be pissed if he stayed and played good baseball.

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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

To be fair there's not a lot of positives we can give the man this year. He was pretty miserable...

 

Yeah, but to write him off completely? To have an actual hatred for the guy?

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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

To be fair there's not a lot of positives we can give the man this year. He was pretty miserable...

 

Yeah, but to write him off completely? To have an actual hatred for the guy?

 

Nice strawman. Has anyone here said they actually hate Milton?

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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

To be fair there's not a lot of positives we can give the man this year. He was pretty miserable...

 

Yeah, but to write him off completely? To have an actual hatred for the guy?

 

Nice strawman. Has anyone here said they actually hate Milton?

 

This thread has been 32 pages of "He's horrible", "I want him gone", "he's an [expletive]", "Why don't we give him away to whoever the [expletive] wants him",...

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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

To be fair there's not a lot of positives we can give the man this year. He was pretty miserable...

 

Yeah, but to write him off completely? To have an actual hatred for the guy?

 

Nice strawman. Has anyone here said they actually hate Milton?

 

This thread has been 32 pages of "He's horrible", "I want him gone", "he's an [expletive]", "Why don't we give him away to whoever the [expletive] wants him",...

 

That's different than an "actual hatred," as you described it.

 

There's nothing wrong with saying "I want him gone." He's provided plenty of justification for that viewpoint.

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He killed the Rangers with his .999 OPS.

 

it certainly helped them on their deep playoff run to the world series.

 

oh wait...

 

how many $10 million talent, $.10 head guys help teams win on average? i'll bet that number isn't very high.

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He killed the Rangers with his .999 OPS.

 

it certainly helped them on their deep playoff run to the world series.

 

oh wait...

 

how many $10 million talent, $.10 head guys help teams win on average? i'll bet that number isn't very high.

 

wow

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6-1 since he was suspended? Addition by subtraction? Coincidence? Change in team chemistry? Small sample size?
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Apparently Milton Bradley can only do wrong. I hope he stays and has an awesome 2010 so I can hear the haters find some way to say how much he still sucks. Don't you know, he kills kittens!

 

What are the kittens doing though? Are they attacking people? Because if that is the case, I could see him wanting to get rid of the Kittens ASAP

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He killed the Rangers with his .999 OPS.

 

it certainly helped them on their deep playoff run to the world series.

 

oh wait...

 

how many $10 million talent, $.10 head guys help teams win on average? i'll bet that number isn't very high.

 

Talent trumps chemistry in 99 cases out of 100. As I said earlier in this thread, the 1970's A's dynasty routinely got into fistfights in the locker room, but it didn't affect the on-field product. However, in a case like Milton Bradley's, Hendry did the right thing, and I wouldn't be sad if he was traded. A guy that extreme can bring down a team in a hurry if he isn't stopped. There's a reason he's been on 7 teams in 10 seasons.

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He killed the Rangers with his .999 OPS.

 

it certainly helped them on their deep playoff run to the world series.

 

oh wait...

 

how many $10 million talent, $.10 head guys help teams win on average? i'll bet that number isn't very high.

 

.....

 

 

really?

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He killed the Rangers with his .999 OPS.

 

it certainly helped them on their deep playoff run to the world series.

 

oh wait...

 

how many $10 million talent, $.10 head guys help teams win on average? i'll bet that number isn't very high.

 

Talent trumps chemistry in 99 cases out of 100. As I said earlier in this thread, the 1970's A's dynasty routinely got into fistfights in the locker room, but it didn't affect the on-field product. However, in a case like Milton Bradley's, Hendry did the right thing, and I wouldn't be sad if he was traded. A guy that extreme can bring down a team in a hurry if he isn't stopped. There's a reason he's been on 7 teams in 10 seasons.

 

Sorry, too many errors in your first couple of sentences to let this slide.

 

First, there are statistical exceptions to almost everything. How many teams suffered because of bad team chemistry ? You cannot answer that because nobody knows. Picking one team to try and prove a point in this case proves nothing other than it is POSSIBLE for it to happen.

 

Which brings us to point two. the 70's A's did not " routinely " get into clubhouse fistfights, I only recall one episode where Odom and Fingers got into a fight after the regular season ended. There was some tension between the players and the front office regarding money, however. Still,I do not see how this compares to having a player like Bradley who seems to piss and moan day after day, insults the fans and the city he plays in, and, it would appear, has no respect for his manager, or his coaches.

 

 

All you have shown is that players who do not always get along every day, on a fantastic team sporting three future hall of fame members, CAN win it all. You have done nothing to show that having a malcontent player like Bradley on your team is not often detrimental.

 

The big question is would the 70's A's have been as good a team with Milton Bradley on it.

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The big question is would the 70's A's have been as good a team with Milton Bradley on it.

Yes.

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I am sure the Chicago media will flock to this stat, but the thing that is laughable is when they bash Soriano for being a negative effect on the team and we have a distinctly better record with him in the lineup than without him. But that stat has no warrant when we do better with Soriano in the lineup than when he is out, but when Bradley is out of the lineup/in the lineup it's the most important evidence pointing to getting rid of him.

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The big question is would the 70's A's have been as good a team with Milton Bradley on it.

Yes.

 

LOL. Finley would have sent Milton packing in May.

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Does anyone know the rules for voiding a contract in the event of someone becoming violent and making for an unsafe work environment? This whole situation seems to have an easy fix. Here are the steps I think Hendry should have taken.

 

Step 1: Spend the rest of the season anonymously torturing Bradley.

Step 2: Drop subtle hints Aaron Miles is the Culprit.

Step 3: Leave an abnormal amount of sharp jagged objects laying around.

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Why would you use "doesn't play" rather than "doesn't start" Doesn't make much sense to fault Bradley for losses in games where he has one pinch hit appearance.

 

Oh probably cause they're 25-21 in games he doesn't start in and it wouldn't convince the masses that he needs to go.

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Does anyone know the rules for voiding a contract in the event of someone becoming violent and making for an unsafe work environment? This whole situation seems to have an easy fix. Here are the steps I think Hendry should have taken.

 

Step 1: Spend the rest of the season anonymously torturing Bradley.

Step 2: Drop subtle hints Aaron Miles is the Culprit.

Step 3: Leave an abnormal amount of sharp jagged objects laying around.

 

Shawn Chacon attacked Ed Wade (the GM) in Houston, and if memory serves he still got paid.

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