If the Cubs benched Soto, when will it be Soriano's turn?

[cubstitlelives]

If the Cubs are going to give Koyie Hill the lions share of time behind the plate, when will guys like Jake Fox and Sam Fuld get to play full time the rest of the season? I'm to the point where I don't care who the Cubs put out there, as long as it isn't the biggest waste of money in Baseball.

 

The injured knee crap is comical at this point because if it were that bad, they'd put his ass on the DL. Sam Fuld, while certainly not the long term answer, is far more enjoyable to watch than Soriano. He will get on base more and on the defensive side of it, Fuld is as good as there is.

 

After watching that little league display he put on today, not only on defense, but also at the plate, it's time to sit him for the better part of the rest of this year.

 

I would love to hear from his defenders because I honestly don't think you can come up with a good reason to play him anymore.

Edited September 3, 2009 by cubstitlelives

[Halman]

If the Cubs are going to give Koyie Hill the lions share of time behind the plate, when will guys like Jake Fox and Sam Fuld get to play full time the rest of the season? I'm to the point where I don't care who the Cubs put out there, as long as it isn't the biggest waste of money in Baseball.

 

You had me at Jake Fox and you lost me at Sam Fuld. I'd rather see Brad Snyder or Colvin out there since both of those guys at least have a future with this team. (LH with some pop utility OF)

 

Hasn't Fox been getting the lion's share of time splitting time at both corners in the OF and IF?

[cubstitlelives]

If the Cubs are going to give Koyie Hill the lions share of time behind the plate, when will guys like Jake Fox and Sam Fuld get to play full time the rest of the season? I'm to the point where I don't care who the Cubs put out there, as long as it isn't the biggest waste of money in Baseball.

 

You had me at Jake Fox and you lost me at Sam Fuld. I'd rather see Brad Snyder or Colvin out there since both of those guys at least have a future with this team. (LH with some pop utility OF)

 

Hasn't Fox been getting the lion's share of time splitting time at both corners in the OF and IF?

 

Eh, not as much as our worthless LF has. Seriously, if not Fox, why not Fuld? Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

Even Brenly asked when the Cubs are going to pull the plug on him this season.

[inari]

Your "everyone is gonna gang up on me thing" is tired. There aren't really any Soriano defenders left.

[cubstitlelives]

Your "everyone is gonna gang up on me thing" is tired. There aren't really any Soriano defenders left.

 

I said everyone is going to gang up on me? Do show this post.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If 2009 is any indication of the remainder of Sorianos Cubs career, it could end up going down as the worst MLB contract ever and one of the worst things to ever happen to the Cubs.

[inari]

Your "everyone is gonna gang up on me thing" is tired. There aren't really any Soriano defenders left.

 

I said everyone is going to gang up on me? Do show this post.

 

All the Soriano defenders etc etc

[Rob]

Soriano is still our best bet for production from LF next season.

 

That said, while I refuse to give up all hope until we're mathematically eliminated this season... I see no reason not to start giving some of our guys a chance to show what they can do. Fox especially needs some reps out there, as his D has been significantly worse than even Soriano's uninspired performance out there this season. And the extra plate appearances can't hurt... it's been interesting watching him adjust to breaking stuff.

 

I wouldn't waste any time running Fuld out there though. Any value he brings to this team is from his glove and speed... the extra PAs wouldn't do him any good and he doesn't need the reps in the field.

 

Hell, give Hoffpauir a few starts out there... give him a chance to get his batting line back up where it belongs and end the season on a good note.

[SouthSideRyan]

And don't you give me that Prior's shoulder crap. If he was hurt, the Cubs wouldn't be running him out there every 5 days. Guy's just a [expletive].

[USSoccer]

What a shock, this guy likes Sam Fuld.

[Halman]

Seriously, if not Fox, why not Fuld? Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now?

 

This team is done and because the cubs have a pretty good LH centerfielder who needs a platoon partner. A LH utility outfielder with no power is useless for this team beyond the end of this year.

 

If I were to bench soriano I'd rather have Colvin or Snyder there as at least they could be major league assets for this team for the near future as LH utility OF guys with some pop.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Sam Fuld is a better option for LF than Jake Fox.

[USSoccer]

Sam Fuld is a better option for LF than Jake Fox.

 

As in "left fielder", sure.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Sam Fuld is a better option for LF than Jake Fox.

 

As in "left fielder", sure.

 

Yes, and his advantage as a top of the line defensive LF compared to Fox's comically bad everywhere defensive LF mitigates the difference between them offensively.

[USSoccer]

Sam Fuld is a better option for LF than Jake Fox.

 

As in "left fielder", sure.

 

Yes, and his advantage as a top of the line defensive LF compared to Fox's comically bad everywhere defensive LF mitigates the difference between them offensively.

 

At this point the comic relief of Fox outweighs the gritty whiteness of Fuld for me.

[Sammy Sofa]

I guess I'm a "Soriano defender" but I wanted him DLed long ago for however it long it took to deal with the knee and I want him to sit the rest of the season because of the knee. He's not doing anyone any good playing hurt and the Cubs are stupid for playing him in this condition given how much they'll need out of him next year.

[Derwood]

If Lou/Hendry don't have the brass to DL Soriano, will they have the brass to demand Soriano gets surgery right away after the season? I foresee one of these ridiculous situations where Soriano goes all winter with no treatment, then "suddenly" discovers he needs knee surgery in spring training.

[dew1679666265]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

[NCCubFan]

If Lou/Hendry don't have the brass to DL Soriano, will they have the brass to demand Soriano gets surgery right away after the season?

I don't believe they can demand it. They can recommend it, but I don't think a team has the right to require a player to have surgery.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

 

Problem is, your 18 million dollar superstar shouldnt be comparable to a 28 year old AAAA player. I understand the knee issue, but I dont know why they arent shutting him down. we have 5 more years of him, so they should want him as healthy as possible, not limping around the bases and the outfield.

[Halman]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

 

Problem is, your 18 million dollar superstar shouldnt be comparable to a 28 year old AAAA player. I understand the knee issue, but I dont know why they arent shutting him down. we have 5 more years of him, so they should want him as healthy as possible, not limping around the bases and the outfield.

 

Maybe it has to do with Soriano not wanting to shut it down?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

 

Problem is, your 18 million dollar superstar shouldnt be comparable to a 28 year old AAAA player. I understand the knee issue, but I dont know why they arent shutting him down. we have 5 more years of him, so they should want him as healthy as possible, not limping around the bases and the outfield.

 

Maybe it has to do with Soriano not wanting to shut it down?

 

That shouldnt be his decison.

[nick23]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

 

Problem is, your 18 million dollar superstar shouldnt be comparable to a 28 year old AAAA player. I understand the knee issue, but I dont know why they arent shutting him down. we have 5 more years of him, so they should want him as healthy as possible, not limping around the bases and the outfield.

 

Maybe it has to do with Soriano not wanting to shut it down?

 

That shouldnt be his decison.

Sure it should. You don't just make a player sit out the last month of the season. Especially a productive player with five years left on his contract.

[Pushfrog98]

I know that there are more problems than just his fielding (ie... hitting). I was wondering though, after that error yesterday that lead to a run scoring and the batter (can't remember who) ending up on 3rd, if there was a way to limit the damage caused by his errors? I know his fielding abilities at 2nd were never good, and could only be worse now, but would it lessen the effect of his errors if he was stuck there? Sure the errors would still cause damage (and there would be a lot more opportunity for them), but there's at least someone behind him to somewhat back him up. Maybe we can petition the league for 10 fielders so we can have someone back him up in LF? This is mostly in jest, but is there seriously a way we could lessen the damage caused by his lack of fielding sense?

[dew1679666265]

Are you going to tell me that Fuld is worse than Soriano right now? Not a chance.

 

There's a chance at this point.

 

2009 Fuld OPS: .739

2009 Sori OPS: .732

 

Fuld last 2 weeks OPS: .458

Sori last 2 weeks OPS: .921

 

Defense certainly plays a part and widens the gap in favor of Fuld, but offensively Soriano has been comparable, at least.

 

Problem is, your 18 million dollar superstar shouldnt be comparable to a 28 year old AAAA player. I understand the knee issue, but I dont know why they arent shutting him down. we have 5 more years of him, so they should want him as healthy as possible, not limping around the bases and the outfield.

 

I agree the best option would be to shut him down and try to get him healthy. I actually wasn't arguing in favor of Soriano there so much as just showing that he can still be more productive this year than Fuld.

 

Ideally, however, that shouldn't be in question.