07/30 Astros (Ortiz) @ Cubs (Hart) 1:20 CT, WGN TV

[erik316wttn]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

This.

 

Also, not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood to get the draft picks, Ceda for Gregg (even though Gregg has gotten somewhat better), Izturis, Ordonez, Bynum, Neifi, severely overpaying for Aaron Miles when you could have paid 1/10th as much for the same talent, trading Eyre instead of Howry, trading Wuertz for nothing, not giving Vizcaino a fair chance, not firing Dusty, Soriano's albatross of a contract.... need I go on?

 

Yes, he brought Harden, Lee, Nomar, Aram, Lee, Lilly here. I'm not going to say he hasn't made good moves, because he has, but his bad moves outnumber his good ones.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

But that's different. That's a criticism of a free agent signing of the replacement player (especially when the likes of Orlando Hudson were available this offseason).

 

No, it isn't different. It was a transaction where he replaced one player with another. Trading DeRosa was not a problem, getting relievers for him and then not having a suitable backup to 3B on the roster and having Aaron Freaking Miles signed to 2 years is even worse.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

I think it's reasonable to do so. This team was built to win now, and whatever comes of that trade in the future, it definitely hurt us in the present. Hendry thought he could replace most of Derosa's production with a Fontenot/Miles platoon, and he was sorely mistaken.

Even if this is true (and that trade is defensible to me), the DeRosa trade is completely different. Hendry was selling a major league part for minor league prospects. Most of his trades have been trading prospects (who mostly have busted) for major league players. This is the kind of trade he will be making for Grabow. I wouldn't worry about him overpaying.

[cheapseats]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

But that's different. That's a criticism of a free agent signing of the replacement player (especially when the likes of Orlando Hudson were available this offseason).

 

Considering the Miles signing happened at the same time as the Derosa trade, it's disingenuous to argue against connecting the two.

[cheapseats]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

This.

 

Also, not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood to get the draft picks, Ceda for Gregg (even though Gregg has gotten somewhat better), Izturis, Ordonez, Bynum, Neifi, severely overpaying for Aaron Miles when you could have paid 1/10th as much for the same talent, trading Eyre instead of Howry, trading Wuertz for nothing, not giving Vizcaino a fair chance, not firing Dusty, Soriano's albatross of a contract.... need I go on?

 

Yes, he brought Harden, Lee, Nomar, Aram, Lee, Lilly here. I'm not going to say he hasn't made good moves, because he has, but his bad moves outnumber his good ones.

 

Don't forget Wuertz for a bag of crap.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

This.

 

Also, not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood to get the draft picks, Ceda for Gregg (even though Gregg has gotten somewhat better), Izturis, Ordonez, Bynum, Neifi, severely overpaying for Aaron Miles when you could have paid 1/10th as much for the same talent, trading Eyre instead of Howry, trading Wuertz for nothing, not giving Vizcaino a fair chance, not firing Dusty, Soriano's albatross of a contract.... need I go on?

 

Yes, he brought Harden, Lee, Nomar, Aram, Lee, Lilly here. I'm not going to say he hasn't made good moves, because he has, but his bad moves outnumber his good ones.

 

OK, he is awful signing players to contracts, but he is pretty good at trading for players. You started by saying that he makes more bad-to-awful trades than good trades and switched it to saying he makes more bad moves than good moves.

[illiniguy]

I'm really looking forward to watching the Cards play this joke of a team this weekend.

They'll take two of three from you.

 

Unless Oswalt is fine and makes his start, no.

 

Right, cause you guys will never lose again to a crap pitcher. Never again

They have three big leaguers on offense now. No way are they losing. Ever again.

[erik316wttn]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

But that's different. That's a criticism of a free agent signing of the replacement player (especially when the likes of Orlando Hudson were available this offseason).

 

No, it isn't different. It was a transaction where he replaced one player with another. Trading DeRosa was not a problem, getting relievers for him and then not having a suitable backup to 3B on the roster and having Aaron Freaking Miles signed to 2 years is even worse.

 

Goony must have eaten an entire box of Awesome-O's this morning, because he's been dead on in this thread.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is the kind of trade he will be making for Grabow. I wouldn't worry about him overpaying.

 

Why not? He's an idiot. And he does it all the time. He doesn't need a freaking LH reliever yet we all know that when he gets his mind set on something he will get it and overpay for it.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

This.

 

Also, not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood to get the draft picks, Ceda for Gregg (even though Gregg has gotten somewhat better), Izturis, Ordonez, Bynum, Neifi, severely overpaying for Aaron Miles when you could have paid 1/10th as much for the same talent, trading Eyre instead of Howry, trading Wuertz for nothing, not giving Vizcaino a fair chance, not firing Dusty, Soriano's albatross of a contract.... need I go on?

 

Yes, he brought Harden, Lee, Nomar, Aram, Lee, Lilly here. I'm not going to say he hasn't made good moves, because he has, but his bad moves outnumber his good ones.

 

Don't forget Wuertz for a bag of crap.

He didn't.

 

The Wuertz and Pierre trades are the only two I really don't like. Even the Gregg trade has turned out pretty well for us, so far.

[Guest]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

But that's different. That's a criticism of a free agent signing of the replacement player (especially when the likes of Orlando Hudson were available this offseason).

 

Considering the Miles signing happened at the same time as the Derosa trade, it's disingenuous to argue against connecting the two.

 

Fair enough.

 

Replacing DeRosa with Miles was a horrible mistake that most of us saw during the offseason. Trading away DeRosa coming off last season wasn't a bad idea and the haul he brought in has been good.

[Ihatepujols]

How do ya stop this team? I mean right now its like a frieght train out of control. I just looked at our schedule and i dont see where we lose another game. :D :D

[erik316wttn]

Yeah, that DeRosa trade really worked out for us.

 

Hendry has made some very good trades, but he's made more bad-to-awful ones.

 

Are you really judging a prospects-for-big leaguer trade 6 months after the trade? Especially when the 3 prospects have performed rather well in the minors?

 

Are you really saying you can't criticize a trade of a player when the team went out and replaced said player with Aaron Freaking Miles?

 

This.

 

Also, not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood to get the draft picks, Ceda for Gregg (even though Gregg has gotten somewhat better), Izturis, Ordonez, Bynum, Neifi, severely overpaying for Aaron Miles when you could have paid 1/10th as much for the same talent, trading Eyre instead of Howry, trading Wuertz for nothing, not giving Vizcaino a fair chance, not firing Dusty, Soriano's albatross of a contract.... need I go on?

 

Yes, he brought Harden, Lee, Nomar, Aram, Lee, Lilly here. I'm not going to say he hasn't made good moves, because he has, but his bad moves outnumber his good ones.

 

Don't forget Wuertz for a bag of crap.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hey guys, remember how everyone was convinced the Cubs were due for a massive hot streak and I wasn't?

 

Y'all were right.

[Keener98]

Hey guys, in case your didnt know there is a game going on right now. Can we stop the Hendry crap here, its a dead horse that keeps gettin beat. Cubs are winning lets have fun

[haubrich91]

Lol nice rip Fox.

[Vanilla Ice]

This is the kind of trade he will be making for Grabow. I wouldn't worry about him overpaying.

 

Why not? He's an idiot. And he does it all the time. He doesn't need a freaking LH reliever yet we all know that when he gets his mind set on something he will get it and overpay for it.

How many times has he overpayed in terms of prospects in trades? 2 or 3?

 

Gregg (Ceda has been hurt all season and Gregg has been pretty good)

Wuertz (completely indefensible)

Pierre (Even that got us Donaldson who was the second piece in the Harden trade, but I won't try to justify this trade)

[Guest]

The Wuertz and Pierre trades are the only two I really don't like. Even the Gregg trade has turned out pretty well for us, so far.

 

You should be able to get better value than Gregg for Ceda but Hendry bailed on Ceda at the right time.

 

Now Hendry better offer arbitration to Gregg this offseason.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hey guys, in case your didnt know there is a game going on right now. Can we stop the Hendry crap here, its a dead horse that keeps gettin beat. Cubs are winning lets have fun

 

Hendry crap is the Astros?

[Vanilla Ice]

The Wuertz and Pierre trades are the only two I really don't like. Even the Gregg trade has turned out pretty well for us, so far.

 

You should be able to get better value than Gregg for Ceda but Hendry bailed on Ceda at the right time.

 

Now Hendry better offer arbitration to Gregg this offseason.

I'm with you on the Ceda part

[Banedon]

Hey guys, in case your didnt know there is a game going on right now. Can we stop the Hendry crap here, its a dead horse that keeps gettin beat. Cubs are winning lets have fun

 

But Jim Hendry kicked my dog.

[erik316wttn]

Hey guys, in case your didnt know there is a game going on right now. Can we stop the Hendry crap here, its a dead horse that keeps gettin beat. Cubs are winning lets have fun

 

But Jim Hendry kicked my dog.

 

Hey, what has he got against you, anyway?

 

Oh, he's just mad at me because I accidently ran over his dog.

 

And by "accidentally", i mean "repeatedly." And by "dog", I mean "son."

[David]

 

The Wuertz and Pierre trades are the only two I really don't like. Even the Gregg trade has turned out pretty well for us, so far.

 

 

Remember when almost everyone except me thought that cutting ties with Wood and not offering him arbitration and acquiring Gregg to replace Marmol in the setup role as Marmol (inevitably) closed was a terrible idea?

 

 

I do.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is the kind of trade he will be making for Grabow. I wouldn't worry about him overpaying.

 

Why not? He's an idiot. And he does it all the time. He doesn't need a freaking LH reliever yet we all know that when he gets his mind set on something he will get it and overpay for it.

How many times has he overpayed in terms of prospects in trades? 2 or 3?

 

Gregg (Ceda has been hurt all season and Gregg has been pretty good)

Wuertz (completely indefensible)

Pierre (Even that got us Donaldson who was the second piece in the Harden trade, but I won't try to justify this trade)

 

His entire MO is to overpay for everything. I will worry about him overpaying every time he talks to another team. It's what he does.

[cheapseats]

Hey guys, in case your didnt know there is a game going on right now. Can we stop the Hendry crap here, its a dead horse that keeps gettin beat. Cubs are winning lets have fun

 

But Jim Hendry kicked my dog.

 

One day I am going to post his contact info on 4chan.