7/24 DBR (Harang) @ Cubs (Wells) 1:20 CSN

[TruffleShuffle]

Wow I thought Ronny was about to argue Kerry's 20k game was better than Buehrle's perfect game..

 

 

that would have been a great who you crappin nominee there.

 

why? I happen to think it was better. 20k games have been done 4 times by 3 pitchers, perfect games 18 times. Also the only hit in Woods game was a slow hit grounder just out of the reach of the SS. That bit of bad luck (where the ball was hit) was the only thing separating his game from a no hitter (or perfect game. I can't remember if he walked anyone)

 

 

No walks, and it is pretty clear to me that Kerry's performance was far more dominant. It took a ridiculous play just to save the shutout yesterday, whereas hardly anyone could even put the ball in play vs Kerry. Having said that, pitching a no hitter and a perfect game in your career is damn impressive. Props to Mark, but I still think Kerry's game was better.

 

plus the play by wise was not the only hard hit ball. burrell flied out to the track and there were a couple of line outs and hard ground balls that happened to go right at fielders. if you give up 22 batted balls in play and 0 go for hits, you've gotten extraordinarily lucky.

[erik316wttn]

Wow I thought Ronny was about to argue Kerry's 20k game was better than Buehrle's perfect game..

 

 

that would have been a great who you crappin nominee there.

 

why? I happen to think it was better. 20k games have been done 4 times by 3 pitchers, perfect games 18 times. Also the only hit in Woods game was a slow hit grounder just out of the reach of the SS. That bit of bad luck (where the ball was hit) was the only thing separating his game from a no hitter (or perfect game. I can't remember if he walked anyone)

 

 

No walks, and it is pretty clear to me that Kerry's performance was far more dominant. It took a ridiculous play just to save the shutout yesterday, whereas hardly anyone could even put the ball in play vs Kerry. Having said that, pitching a no hitter and a perfect game in your career is damn impressive. Props to Mark, but I still think Kerry's game was better.

 

The 20 K game was the single most dominating single-game pitching performance in the history of baseball.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Votto flied out to right field

[CyHawk_Cub]

Wow I thought Ronny was about to argue Kerry's 20k game was better than Buehrle's perfect game..

 

 

that would have been a great who you crappin nominee there.

 

why? I happen to think it was better. 20k games have been done 4 times by 3 pitchers, perfect games 18 times. Also the only hit in Woods game was a slow hit grounder just out of the reach of the SS. That bit of bad luck (where the ball was hit) was the only thing separating his game from a no hitter (or perfect game. I can't remember if he walked anyone)

 

 

No walks, and it is pretty clear to me that Kerry's performance was far more dominant. It took a ridiculous play just to save the shutout yesterday, whereas hardly anyone could even put the ball in play vs Kerry. Having said that, pitching a no hitter and a perfect game in your career is damn impressive. Props to Mark, but I still think Kerry's game was better.

 

The 20 K game was the single most dominating single-game pitching performance in the history of baseball.

 

^^I fully endorse this POV^^

[WreckingMachine]

Wow I thought Ronny was about to argue Kerry's 20k game was better than Buehrle's perfect game..

 

 

that would have been a great who you crappin nominee there.

 

Depends on what you mean by "better"

 

More impressive achievement is how they were discussing. But I can't think of a definition that would make me think Kerry pitched a better game that day than Buehrle did yesterday

 

I think a 20K no-hitter (yes, to me it was a no-hitter) is more dominant than a perfect game. A perfect game has happened 18 times in MLB history, a 20K game only 3 or 4 times.

 

And didn't only 3 balls reach the Outfield in Wood's game?

 

An odd thing if you've ever watched a replay of the game is how few there are in the stands. It was less than half-full, 19000. Empty seats everywhere.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Taveras popped out to third base

Votto flied out to right field

Phillips flied out to center field

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Cincinnati      0 3 0 0 0                      3  7  0
CUBS            1 1 1 0                        3  6  1

 

Home runs:

Cincinnati: Harang (1)

CUBS: Fontenot (8)

 

Cincinnati     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Harang        4.0  6  2  2  0  4  1  72

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Wells         5.0  7  3  3  0  5  1  70

[haubrich91]

Kerry's curve that day was probably the sickest thing I've seen in my life.

[Prizefight]

Atta' boy Wells, settle down and get us 2 more innings.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fukudome           AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Leading off        68   10   22    8    2    2    2    6   15  0.324  0.378  0.588  0.967  0.392  3.77  0.055  0.000
bases empty       180   20   43   12    3    5    5   26   36  0.239  0.338  0.422  0.760  0.273  4.09  0.099  0.000
Middle (4-6)       89   18   30    8    1    4   14   16   13  0.337  0.444  0.584  1.029  0.361  3.79  0.107  0.270
0 outs             92   17   29   10    2    2    4   13   19  0.315  0.400  0.533  0.933  0.380  3.75  0.085  0.111
Game tied          90   15   21    5    2    1    4   15   27  0.233  0.340  0.367  0.706  0.323  4.07  0.106  0.094
last 7 games       22    2    9    3    1    0    2    3    2  0.409  0.480  0.636  1.116  0.450  4.24  0.071  0.333
July               62    8   18    6    2    2    6    8    6  0.290  0.366  0.548  0.915  0.296  3.90  0.076  0.190
Home              126   22   29    9    1    3   11   24   21  0.230  0.351  0.389  0.740  0.255  4.11  0.120  0.167
Day               140   22   36    8    3    3   16   26   20  0.257  0.367  0.421  0.788  0.282  3.94  0.110  0.241
vs Right          254   37   69   19    4    6   25   46   50  0.272  0.385  0.449  0.834  0.318  4.05  0.113  0.202
vs Harang           3    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.333  0.333  0.333  0.667  0.333  5.00  0.000  0.000
vs. Cincy          18    3    2    0    0    0    0    5    5  0.111  0.333  0.111  0.444  0.154  4.04  0.222  0.000

season totals     281   41   74   20    4    7   29   50   57  0.263  0.375  0.438  0.813  0.309  4.04  0.112  0.196

[Little Slide Rooter]

Now that Randy appears to be settled in, lets get the man another W.

[Fred Hornkohl]

St. Louis      0
Philadelphia   0  6:05

Atlanta        0
Milwaukee      0  7:05

NY Mets        0
Houston        0  7:05

white sox      1
Detroit        5  F

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fukudome flied out to deep center field

[Butterscup1679666578]

If Wells could give us two more shutout, I'd be thrilled.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
bases empty       225   32   67   11    2    4    4   20   33  0.298  0.360  0.418  0.778  0.335  3.68  0.063  0.000
Middle (4-6)      113   23   37    2    1    2   16   10   17  0.327  0.381  0.416  0.797  0.372  3.82  0.054  0.264
1 out             144   22   40    5    1    2   12   14   21  0.278  0.341  0.368  0.710  0.314  3.72  0.064  0.208
Game tied         114   17   41    8    0    2    9    9   15  0.360  0.416  0.482  0.898  0.402  3.61  0.056  0.200
last 7 games       26    4    8    1    1    0    6    4    5  0.308  0.375  0.423  0.798  0.381  4.13  0.067  0.375
July               74   12   27    4    1    0    7    7    8  0.365  0.410  0.446  0.856  0.409  3.71  0.045  0.219
Home              171   29   58   11    2    5   21   10   24  0.339  0.377  0.515  0.892  0.373  3.67  0.038  0.229
Day               169   31   54    8    2    3   17   13   32  0.320  0.368  0.444  0.811  0.381  3.95  0.048  0.187
vs Right          284   39   82   10    3    5   28   24   51  0.289  0.345  0.398  0.743  0.338  3.74  0.056  0.178
vs Harang           3    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0  0.333  0.333  0.333  0.667  0.333  4.33  0.000  1.000
vs. Cincy          27    4    9    0    0    1    3    1    4  0.333  0.379  0.444  0.824  0.364  3.90  0.046  0.111

season totals     357   52  107   17    3    7   36   29   56  0.300  0.355  0.423  0.778  0.340  3.73  0.056  0.187

[third eye]

Kerry's curve that day was probably the sickest thing I've seen in my life.

 

Yep, especially the break on that last K to Bell (I think that's who it was).

[TruffleShuffle]

come on, if harang and fontenot can put one over the fence you can too, fuku.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot struck out swinging

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
bases empty       155   24   44    7    0    9    9   12   28  0.284  0.339  0.503  0.843  0.297  3.96  0.055  0.000
Middle (4-6)      107   19   34   10    0    7   26   12   18  0.318  0.393  0.607  1.001  0.329  3.91  0.076  0.297
2 outs            112    7   27    5    0    4   21   14   23  0.241  0.325  0.393  0.718  0.271  3.95  0.084  0.227
Game tied          95   14   21    3    0    6   21   14   23  0.221  0.318  0.442  0.760  0.227  4.00  0.097  0.250
last 7 games       28    5    8    3    0    1    3    3    7  0.286  0.355  0.500  0.855  0.350  4.42  0.069  0.125
July               70   13   19    5    0    7   21    4   15  0.271  0.320  0.643  0.963  0.250  3.95  0.049  0.326
Home              156   27   47    9    0   13   40   13   32  0.301  0.360  0.609  0.969  0.306  3.96  0.059  0.284
Day               157   28   45    8    0   11   38   16   34  0.287  0.352  0.548  0.900  0.304  3.89  0.066  0.270
vs Right          254   38   71   14    0   16   53   23   54  0.280  0.339  0.524  0.863  0.299  3.92  0.060  0.252
vs Harang           3    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  2.33  0.000  0.000
vs. Cincy          27    1    6    0    0    0    2    2    6  0.222  0.276  0.222  0.498  0.286  4.31  0.054  0.143

season totals     310   44   87   17    0   18   60   35   64  0.281  0.354  0.510  0.864  0.303  3.96  0.074  0.233

[erik316wttn]

Kerry's curve that day was probably the sickest thing I've seen in my life.

 

Yep, especially the break on that last K to Bell (I think that's who it was).

 

I think that was his slider, but that very last pitch defied physics.

[Flames24Rulz]

The wind didn't do [expletive] to the fly balls that inning.

[nick23]

Lord this PBP guy is awful.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Kerry's curve that day was probably the sickest thing I've seen in my life.

 

Yep, especially the break on that last K to Bell (I think that's who it was).

 

I think that was his slider, but that very last pitch defied physics.

 

I'm not typically the maudlin type, but remembering that game makes me more sad than anything. KW's injuries...damn, what could've been

[haubrich91]

I thought it was gone off the bat.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Fukudome flied out to deep center field

Theriot struck out swinging

D Lee flied out to left center field

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Cincinnati      0 3 0 0 0                      3  7  0
CUBS            1 1 1 0 0                      3  6  1

 

Home runs:

Cincinnati: Harang (1)

CUBS: Fontenot (8)

 

Cincinnati     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Harang        5.0  6  2  2  0  5  1  86

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Wells         5.0  7  3  3  0  5  1  70

[Fred Hornkohl]

The discussion of Beuhrle vs Wood is interesting, intelligent, informative, and totally out of place in this game thread. I will enjoy reading the rest of it in the CUBS discussion forum later on.