7/10/09 Cardinals(Carpenter) @ Cubs (Harden) 1:20 PM WGN

[illiniguy]

So when's Alby gonna fall off one?

 

Well, the crappy thing there is that he's at the extreme, extreme end of the bell curve, and the norms are a little different out there. Just like great players often step in and contribute at abnormally young ages (smacking the crap out of the ball at an alleged 21), they also tend to last longer.

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. What are the odds he's a Yankee or Red Sox soon?

[Fred Hornkohl]

K. Hill grounded out to second, 4-3

[Sammy Sofa]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Amazingly ridiculous.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Sammy Sofa

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hoffpauir          AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Pinch hitting      28    3    6    1    0    1    6    1    8  0.214  0.241  0.357  0.599  0.263  3.76  0.027  0.227
bases empty        72    6   17    1    0    3    3    4   16  0.236  0.276  0.375  0.651  0.264  3.97  0.040  0.000
Late (7th on)      59    5   11    1    0    3    7    3   23  0.186  0.226  0.356  0.582  0.242  3.82  0.039  0.114
1 out              48    2    7    1    0    0    3    3   18  0.146  0.192  0.167  0.359  0.233  3.92  0.046  0.083
CUBS trailing      65    7   14    2    0    5   10    0   19  0.215  0.215  0.477  0.692  0.220  3.89  0.000  0.114
last 15 games      27    2    4    0    0    1    1    0    9  0.148  0.148  0.259  0.407  0.176  3.93  0.000  0.000
July                9    1    1    0    0    0    0    0    3  0.111  0.111  0.111  0.222  0.167  3.78  0.000  0.000
Home               59    9   17    4    0    3   10    6   10  0.288  0.348  0.508  0.857  0.304  3.79  0.060  0.184
Day                70    8   17    3    0    4    9    4   14  0.243  0.284  0.457  0.741  0.250  3.85  0.041  0.125
vs Right          130   14   33    5    0    7   21    8   32  0.254  0.295  0.454  0.749  0.286  3.81  0.041  0.157
vs Kinney           0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          18    1    6    1    0    1    4    1    4  0.333  0.368  0.556  0.924  0.385  3.58  0.035  0.375
Lance Barksdale     1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  2.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     149   14   36    7    0    7   22    9   38  0.242  0.283  0.430  0.713  0.279  3.81  0.041  0.147

[illiniguy]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Amazingly ridiculous.

He's right. We should always expect to win 50 games. That way we are always stoked.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. What are the odds he's a Yankee or Red Sox soon?

 

That depends on how much of the "He loves St. Louis and doesn't care about money and is the perfect team player" stuff you hear out of St. Louis is true.

 

If it's legit, he's staying.

 

If it's just media hype and PR garbage, he's gone after 2011.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hoffpauir, pinch hitting for Stevens, doubled to right center field

[Arnold Layne]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Absolutely astounding.

 

 

Is it really? Take a look at the offensive stats since 2003 despite having a top MLB payroll. 2008 was a complete fluke. Accept that reality.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Arnold Layne

[Fred Hornkohl]

Johnson grounded out to second, 4-3 , Hoffpauir to third

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               64   11   17    1    0    2   20    5    9  0.266  0.329  0.375  0.704  0.283  4.11  0.063  0.188
Late (7th on)     101    8   23    3    0    0    2    5   19  0.228  0.271  0.257  0.528  0.280  3.73  0.043  0.043
2 outs             86    8   28    5    1    3   15    5   17  0.326  0.370  0.512  0.881  0.379  3.87  0.044  0.194
CUBS trailing     121   15   30    6    1    2   11    5   22  0.248  0.281  0.364  0.645  0.289  3.70  0.033  0.184
last 15 games      55    8   18    1    0    1    4    4    9  0.327  0.373  0.400  0.773  0.378  3.98  0.046  0.143
July               33    4   12    1    0    0    1    1    3  0.364  0.382  0.394  0.776  0.400  3.64  0.019  0.083
Home              156   25   51    9    2    5   21    8   24  0.327  0.361  0.506  0.868  0.362  3.73  0.035  0.242
Day               149   24   44    6    2    3   16   10   31  0.295  0.342  0.423  0.764  0.357  3.97  0.046  0.197
vs Right          252   33   72    8    2    5   24   18   46  0.286  0.336  0.393  0.729  0.333  3.72  0.050  0.170
vs Kinney           0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          37    5    9    1    1    0    1    2    1  0.243  0.282  0.324  0.606  0.250  3.72  0.039  0.063
Lance Barksdale     6    1    1    1    0    0    0    1    1  0.167  0.286  0.333  0.619  0.200  3.75  0.119  0.000

season totals     316   44   92   14    2    7   30   23   51  0.291  0.345  0.415  0.759  0.329  3.73  0.054  0.170

[illiniguy]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Absolutely astounding.

 

 

Is it really? Take a look at the offensive stats since 2003 despite having a top MLB payroll. 2008 was a complete fluke. Accept that reality.

You know we are one of like 4 teams to have 4 winning seasons since 03?

[Sammy Sofa]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Absolutely astounding.

 

 

Is it really? Take a look at the offensive stats since 2003 despite having a top MLB payroll. 2008 was a complete fluke. Accept that reality.

 

I do have to say, I like your habit of only showing up when the Cubs are losing or have lost because you never fail to lighten the mood with this ridiculous gimmick that you're clinging to.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

You know we are one of like 4 teams to have 4 winning seasons since 03?

 

Two of those four teams were below NL average in run-scoring, though.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot walked

[gflore34]

Of course now the Ump' zone becomes consistent!!!

[illiniguy]

You know we are one of like 4 teams to have 4 winning seasons since 03?

 

Two of those four teams were below NL average in run-scoring, though.

True, but he built winning teams still. Maybe he needs some help with the offense, he does ok with pitching.

[Arnold Layne]

It's Kool Aid at best. "Healthy" is a laughable excuse. Ask the Dodgers how they did when they had players out.

 

Bottom line is that Hendry has no idea how to build a MLB caliber offense. His struggles in developing an OF after being handed Sosa and Alou are well documented. 2008 was an outlier for his tenure, even though he has had a top five NL payroll the entire time. The sooner people get over the flukey 97 win season, the better off their mental health will be in the context of Cubs baseball.

 

Absolutely astounding.

 

 

Is it really? Take a look at the offensive stats since 2003 despite having a top MLB payroll. 2008 was a complete fluke. Accept that reality.

You know we are one of like 4 teams to have 4 winning seasons since 03?

 

 

Do they hand out rings for that? In terms of the offense(which was the point I was making), the Cubs are right where they should be under Jim Hendry.

 

This is not a surprise or a shock. This is how they offense has played for the last 7 years under his leadership except for 2008.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Arnold Layne

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fukudome           AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               50    8   15    4    0    2   20   12   13  0.300  0.424  0.500  0.924  0.371  4.21  0.124  0.261
Late (7th on)      83    9   21    5    0    2    8   12   22  0.253  0.344  0.386  0.729  0.322  4.02  0.091  0.158
2 outs             73    8   19    5    2    4   13   21   17  0.260  0.426  0.548  0.973  0.288  4.41  0.165  0.231
CUBS trailing      87   12   22    9    0    3   10   12   20  0.253  0.350  0.460  0.810  0.297  4.02  0.097  0.184
last 15 games      49    6   14    4    2    2    5    5    7  0.286  0.345  0.571  0.917  0.300  3.86  0.060  0.125
July               26    5    9    3    1    2    4    4    2  0.346  0.419  0.769  1.189  0.318  3.77  0.073  0.222
Home              112   21   29    9    1    3   11   23   19  0.259  0.381  0.438  0.819  0.289  4.17  0.122  0.190
Day               122   20   33    7    3    3   15   23   18  0.270  0.378  0.451  0.829  0.297  3.99  0.108  0.261
vs Right          221   34   60   16    3    6   23   42   46  0.271  0.390  0.452  0.842  0.320  4.07  0.118  0.205
vs Franklin         2    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.500  0.500  0.500  1.000  0.500  4.00  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          35    7   12    3    0    2   11    4    8  0.343  0.415  0.600  1.015  0.400  3.98  0.072  0.563
Lance Barksdale     7    0    1    0    0    0    0    1    2  0.143  0.250  0.143  0.393  0.200  5.13  0.107  0.000

season totals     245   38   65   17    3    7   27   46   53  0.265  0.382  0.445  0.827  0.314  4.04  0.116  0.200

[Sammy Sofa]

This is not a surprise or a shock. This is how they offense has played for the last 7 years under his leadership except for 2008.

 

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Franklin in to pitch for St. Louis

[Arnold Layne]

This is not a surprise or a shock. This is how they offense has played for the last 7 years under his leadership except for 2008.

 

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

 

 

 

In MLB 2003:

 

20th in runs

21st in OPS

24th in OBP

21st in walks

 

 

in MLB 2004:

 

16th in runs

9 in OPS

23 in OBP

25th in walks

 

Top 10 MLB payroll (top 4 NL payroll)

 

in MLB in 2005:

 

20th in runs

8th in OPS

20th in OBP

28th in walks

 

top 10 MLB payroll (top 4 NL payroll)

 

 

2006 in MLB:

 

28th in runs

27th in OPS

29th in OBP

30th in walks

 

Top 10 MLB payroll (top 4 NL payroll)

 

 

2007 in MLB:

 

18th in runs

15th in OPS

18th in OBP

26th in walks

 

Top 10 MLB payroll (top 4 NL payroll)

 

 

 

2009 in MLB:

 

27th in runs

23rd in OPS

22nd in OBP

17th in walks

 

Top 3 MLB Payroll (#1 in NL)

 

 

Like I said, the Cubs offense under Jim Hendry is right where it should be. Crapville.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Arnold Layne

[Fred Hornkohl]

Theriot took second base on defensive indifference

[Sammy Sofa]

Arnold is the best.

[illiniguy]

Was it Hendrys fault today when we smoked balls right at them all day?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.