Week 11

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So Magglio is being benched indefinitely according to CBS, is this grounds for me to be able to bench him in favor of someone else? Figured I would just ask first.

 

 

no. rather vehemently, this idea was rejected a couple weeks ago.

 

ok, I will correct it. I remember everything being talked about from a couple of weeks ago. Just didn't see the outcome or remember.

[Guest]

Well holy hell.. Blanks called up, and he was available, so I grabbed him. I have no idea how he wasn't on a roster. I did a search of all rosters and nobody had a placeholder for him. He's been in the system quite a long time. Must have just been overlooked?????

 

Nevermind... Brian dropped him in May.

 

I had a minor league roster crunch. But, Gonzalez is blocking him at 1b and the outfield experiment probably won't last long. In fact, he's probably only up with the team to serve as a DH. His current body weight is right around 290 lbs. He makes Fielder look small by comparison.

[tadowdaddy]

Well holy hell.. Blanks called up, and he was available, so I grabbed him. I have no idea how he wasn't on a roster. I did a search of all rosters and nobody had a placeholder for him. He's been in the system quite a long time. Must have just been overlooked?????

 

Nevermind... Brian dropped him in May.

 

I had a minor league roster crunch. But, Gonzalez is blocking him at 1b and the outfield experiment probably won't last long. In fact, he's probably only up with the team to serve as a DH. His current body weight is right around 290 lbs. He makes Fielder look small by comparison.

 

Yeah.. probably so.

[Guest]

That raises a question for me. Suppose there's a minor leaguer who was on my roster a few years ago but I had since cut him. Am I eligible to pick him back up if he's still in the minors or does he go back into the upcoming draft?

[Guest]

my impression is that if a player is in the minor leagues that hasn't had any majors experience, he is not eligible to be picked up no matter what previous roadkill roster status he's had. For instance, I don't think nc was supposed to pick up McGee the other day.

 

I'm not real certain about that one, though.

[tadowdaddy]

I dropped Reimold earlier this year and had to wait til he was brought up to the ML club to pick him back up. I was specifically told to drop him and that he couldn't be picked up until A. The Minor League Draft or B. He was called up to the big leagues. Thus, after I picked him up (after the initial drop) I had to drop him again until he was called up. When he was called up, I was able to grab him again.

 

Thus, I should be ok with today's pickup (Blanks), but if you've dropped someone and he's not in the ML or hasn't been in the ML, he can't be picked back up. I'd think that McGee should be dropped too because of that rule that I had to abide by earlier this year.

[NCCubFan]

my impression is that if a player is in the minor leagues that hasn't had any majors experience, he is not eligible to be picked up no matter what previous roadkill roster status he's had. For instance, I don't think nc was supposed to pick up McGee the other day.

 

I'm not real certain about that one, though.

I thought you could pick up players who were already in the system, but if Juan says I'm wrong I have no problem with dropping him.

[NCCubFan]

So Magglio is being benched indefinitely according to CBS, is this grounds for me to be able to bench him in favor of someone else? Figured I would just ask first.

 

 

no. rather vehemently, this idea was rejected a couple weeks ago.

I thought the objection was to picking up a free agent and putting him in the lineup midweek. I don't recall any objections to replacing a benched major leaguer with a player already on your roster, which is what I think Shane was asking about.

[Guest]

my impression is that if a player is in the minor leagues that hasn't had any majors experience, he is not eligible to be picked up no matter what previous roadkill roster status he's had. For instance, I don't think nc was supposed to pick up McGee the other day.

 

I'm not real certain about that one, though.

 

It's been my impression that any minor leaguer who was in the system prior to the last draft is now just a free agent like any other player and that the only guys we aren't supposed to pick up are newly added members

[Guest]

Prospects may only be selected during the prospect draft to be held annually each September. Players cannot be selected through waivers until they are on a major league roster (including expanded 40 man rosters in September).

 

Sorry that this is so confusing. The above pretty clearly states the rule as it stands now though. You have no right to pick up a minor leaguer just because he was previously on your roster.

 

with regard to shane's situation, the rule states that you cannot change the hitters in your lineup except for trade or injury.

[Guest]

Prospects may only be selected during the prospect draft to be held annually each September. Players cannot be selected through waivers until they are on a major league roster (including expanded 40 man rosters in September).

 

Sorry that this is so confusing. The above pretty clearly states the rule as it stands now though. You have no right to pick up a minor leaguer just because he was previously on your roster.

 

with regard to shane's situation, the rule states that you cannot change the hitters in your lineup except for trade or injury.

I'm pretty sure demotion has been an acceptable reason to bench someone in the past, too.

 

I think benching at the major league level (such as ARod this weekend) is just tough luck, though.

[Guest]

Sorry that this is so confusing. The above pretty clearly states the rule as it stands now though. You have no right to pick up a minor leaguer just because he was previously on your roster.

 

That makes absolutely no sense, Juan. If I promote/trade off all of my minor league players, I'm not allowed to have any minor leaguers until the next draft takes place? Not only does it make no sense, but it's basically just plain silly that I can't pick up some minor league player that pretty much no one else wanted.

 

Why not just limit the free agent minor league signings to guys who were added to the database after the last minor league draft? This allows teams to replenish their rosters with minor leaguers after trades take place. This would also mean that you can't add minor leaguers at times when you aren't allowed to add major leaguers as well.

[Guest]

Sorry that this is so confusing. The above pretty clearly states the rule as it stands now though. You have no right to pick up a minor leaguer just because he was previously on your roster.

 

That makes absolutely no sense, Juan. If I promote/trade off all of my minor league players, I'm not allowed to have any minor leaguers until the next draft takes place? Not only does it make no sense, but it's basically just plain silly that I can't pick up some minor league player that pretty much no one else wanted.

 

Why not just limit the free agent minor league signings to guys who were added to the database after the last minor league draft? This allows teams to replenish their rosters with minor leaguers after trades take place. This would also mean that you can't add minor leaguers at times when you aren't allowed to add major leaguers as well.

 

 

I'm open to these ideas though I don't agree this makes no sense. We just need to establish a system and stick with it. The reason for the current rules was to get us to September, then we can change it.

[NCCubFan]

I dropped McGee, so that takes care of that issue for me. He's out all year recovering from TJS anyway.

 

As far as replacing players midweek, we've always allowed replacing a player that's been benched by his major league team. It may not state so in the rules, but it's always been an allowed exception (much like allowing Adam to carry Sheets on his DL). I don't think it's fair to change that mid-season when it's always been allowed in the past. What's needed is clarification about whether the replacement has to be someone already on your roster or if it can be a free agent. Clarifying rules as necessary is fine; changing them mid-season isn't.

[Guest]

I dropped McGee, so that takes care of that issue for me. He's out all year recovering from TJS anyway.

 

As far as replacing players midweek, we've always allowed replacing a player that's been benched by his major league team. It may not state so in the rules, but it's always been an allowed exception (much like allowing Adam to carry Sheets on his DL). I don't think it's fair to change that mid-season when it's always been allowed in the past. What's needed is clarification about whether the replacement has to be someone already on your roster or if it can be a free agent. Clarifying rules as necessary is fine; changing them mid-season isn't.

 

 

No, you're wrong. What was allowed in the past was to drop a player and add a replacement. Midweek lineup changes have never been allowed.

[Guest]

Sorry that this is so confusing. The above pretty clearly states the rule as it stands now though. You have no right to pick up a minor leaguer just because he was previously on your roster.

 

That makes absolutely no sense, Juan. If I promote/trade off all of my minor league players, I'm not allowed to have any minor leaguers until the next draft takes place? Not only does it make no sense, but it's basically just plain silly that I can't pick up some minor league player that pretty much no one else wanted.

 

Why not just limit the free agent minor league signings to guys who were added to the database after the last minor league draft? This allows teams to replenish their rosters with minor leaguers after trades take place. This would also mean that you can't add minor leaguers at times when you aren't allowed to add major leaguers as well.

 

 

I'm open to these ideas though I don't agree this makes no sense. We just need to establish a system and stick with it. The reason for the current rules was to get us to September, then we can change it.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree. What minor leaguers are currently available via free agency? Guys who weren't interesting enough to draft when we had our last draft. There can be as many as 160 minor leaguers already on rosters.

 

Where is the harm in letting any of these NOT newly added minor leaguers just be free agents like any other player? If I trade away over half my farm team to improve my major league roster (not that I'm actually doing that), why can't I find some scrap heap minor leaguer to add to my minor league roster?

 

If someone finds a diamond in the rough outside of the 160 some odd players that are already on rosters, more power to them.

[UK1679666180]

It finally feels good to have a decent week. The brutal part of my Interleague schedule is mainly over.

[NCCubFan]

I dropped McGee, so that takes care of that issue for me. He's out all year recovering from TJS anyway.

 

As far as replacing players midweek, we've always allowed replacing a player that's been benched by his major league team. It may not state so in the rules, but it's always been an allowed exception (much like allowing Adam to carry Sheets on his DL). I don't think it's fair to change that mid-season when it's always been allowed in the past. What's needed is clarification about whether the replacement has to be someone already on your roster or if it can be a free agent. Clarifying rules as necessary is fine; changing them mid-season isn't.

 

 

No, you're wrong. What was allowed in the past was to drop a player and add a replacement. Midweek lineup changes have never been allowed.

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47752&start=17

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=47752&start=22

 

Then the author of these posts must be wrong too. He said that it's OK to replace a player midweek but the player is then out for the rest of the week. The same person, in a follow-up post, said that it's OK to remove a player due to suckiness. Guess who it was that made these posts. :D

[Guest]

That rule was changed by general consensus.

[UK1679666180]

I can bench a starting pitcher with a scheduled start today and replace him with a pitcher that's not throwing today, correct? Somewhat of a prevent defense.

[Guest]

I can bench a starting pitcher with a scheduled start today and replace him with a pitcher that's not throwing today, correct? Somewhat of a prevent defense.

 

 

yes, you can change pitchers at any time.

[Guest]

Looking through the links that Robert posted, it appears we were mostly addressing guys who are sucking, not guys who just aren't playing.

 

The whole concept of fantasy leagues is to have guys playing. The reason that we replace injured players is because they aren't playing. The rule should be consistent to avoid confusion.

 

In a situation like Magglio Ordonez, I think he should be replaced. If he was in the line up and sucking, too bad so sad. However, that a decision was made to bench him, I think the owner should be allowed to replace him.

 

And the idea of them not playing doesn't mean because the team had an off day or two or 3. It's that they have actually been benched. Whether the benching is for a team suspension for missing a team flight or getting arrested for DUI or benched for non performance shouldn't matter. A benching by the team should allow the owner to switch out that player.

[bukie]

Man, my defense sucked yesterday.

[NCCubFan]

And, with the completion of week 11, the regular season is now half over. I'll definitely take where I'm at.

[MembersOnlyJacket]

Man, my defense sucked yesterday.

 

After trading you my best hitter and pitcher. It would have otherwise been a thrashing from the last place team. :wink:

 

I'll continue to manage my team to try to win for the integrity of the league. After all, look how much better my team did than Adam's!