5/30 Dodgers (Stults) @ Cobs (Dempster) 3:10 CDT FOX

[E.J.]

Soriano below .250 now.

 

He's due for one of his ridiculous hot streaks.

[TruffleShuffle]

who doesn't love mccarver's vignettes from 150 years ago?

[David]

Fans don't hold baseball to a high moral standard? Fans don't really care that much about steroids to begin with but if there is a sport where there is a standard it definitly is baseball.

 

Honestly, I think the high moral standard comes from obnoxious sportswriters and politicians with nothing better to do more than from the fans. With McGwire and Bonds, it was blatantly obvious they were using PEDs. Yet, their fans loved them and to this day still defend those guys.

 

Go Milton go!

You got your facts a little screwed up there man... Giants fans ignored the facts about Bonds, Us Card fans did'nt find out Mac was juicing until he had retired. Now that I know about it I hate his red headed guts, as do MANY St. Louisans.

 

Why did'nt you mention Sosa?

Maybe because nothing has come out on him yet?

 

 

 

Pretty much that. I'll happily throw his name onto the pile of suspected guys, but I was going for guys who'd been confirmed abusers. Cubs fans still haven't found out if Sosa was juicing.

 

My point was more along the lines of the "high moral standard" thing than anything else. I really don't think fans care all that much if players on their teams were abusing.

 

To be fair, you did say that it was blatantly obvious that they were using (presumably meaning at the time). It wasn't proven until well after. One could fairly easily say that it was blatantly obvious that Sammy was using, too, which, obviously, hasn't since been proven to be true or untrue.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Soriano struck out swinging

Theriot walked

Bradley grounded into a DP, 4-6-3, Theriot out at second

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Los Angeles     0 0 0 0 0 0                    0  2  0
CUBS            0 1 1 2 2 0                    6  9  0

 

Home runs:

Los Angeles: none

CUBS: none

 

Los Angeles    IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Stults        3.0  6  4  4  2  3  0  55
Mota          1.0  1  0  0  0  1  0  14
Weaver        2.0  2  2  2  4  2  0  45

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Dempster      6.0  2  0  0  1  5  0  85

[Fred Hornkohl]

       Los Angeles        CUBS
P/PA          4.05        3.80
RBI%          0.00        0.31
R/BR          0.00        0.38
BA           0.100       0.391
OBP          0.143       0.533
SLG          0.150       0.565
OPS          0.293       1.099
ERA           9.00        0.00
BB/9          9.00        1.50
K/9           9.00        7.50

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 21-3 when they lead at the end of the 6th inning

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Outshined_One]

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Yes, yes, I know. However, no one's come out yet alleging they saw Sosa use. No credit card receipts or prescription records have come out regarding steroid use. We have much stronger evidence linking Bonds & McGwire to steroids than we do with Sosa. He probably used, but frankly, I don't give a crap if he did.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Loney flied out to right field

[Cynosure]

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Yes, yes, I know. However, no one's come out yet alleging they saw Sosa use. No credit card receipts or prescription records have come out regarding steroid use. We have much stronger evidence linking Bonds & McGwire to steroids than we do with Sosa. He probably used, but frankly, I don't give a crap if he did.

 

Me either, nor will I act surprised or angered when it eventually comes out that he did use. No one would surprise me from that era.

[Outshined_One]

To be fair, you did say that it was blatantly obvious that they were using (presumably meaning at the time). It wasn't proven until well after. One could fairly easily say that it was blatantly obvious that Sammy was using, too, which, obviously, hasn't since been proven to be true or untrue.

 

I should have been clearer, in that case.

 

My bad. Can we move on now?

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 16-11 when they get a quality start.... 8-12 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ethier doubled to down the right field line

[Cynosure]

I think Fred is the scoreboard operator for balls and strikes AND our play by play guy.

[David]

To be fair, you did say that it was blatantly obvious that they were using (presumably meaning at the time). It wasn't proven until well after. One could fairly easily say that it was blatantly obvious that Sammy was using, too, which, obviously, hasn't since been proven to be true or untrue.

 

I should have been clearer, in that case.

 

My bad. Can we move on now?

 

 

Didn't mean to sound argumentative. I just pointed that out because I was going to argue with the Cards fan and then realized that I couldn't. :-"

[Fred Hornkohl]

Martin flied out to right field

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 21-7 when they get at least 8 hits .... 3-16 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Outshined_One]

Didn't mean to sound argumentative. I just pointed that out because I was going to argue with the Cards fan and then realized that I couldn't. :-"

 

*Shrug*

 

You're the guy who has hot women in his avatars. How can I hate you? :D

[Cynosure]

Price finishes his day:

 

5 2/3 IP

11 K

1 ER

2 BB

5 H

[E.J.]

Thankfully, Fox is saving us from having to hear Larry King sing.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SEVENTH INNING

 

Loney flied out to right field

Ethier doubled to down the right field line

Martin flied out to right field

Loretta flied out to right field

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Los Angeles     0 0 0 0 0 0 0                  0  3  0
CUBS            0 1 1 2 2 0                    6  9  0

 

Home runs:

Los Angeles: none

CUBS: none

 

Los Angeles    IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Stults        3.0  6  4  4  2  3  0  55
Mota          1.0  1  0  0  0  1  0  14
Weaver        2.0  2  2  2  4  2  0  45

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Dempster      7.0  3  0  0  1  5  0  99

[Outshined_One]

10 straight starts for Dempster where he's gone 6 IP or more.

 

Well done, Demp! =D>

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Leading off        32    7   12    2    0    2    2    3    4  0.375  0.429  0.625  1.054  0.385  3.66  0.054  0.000
bases empty        66   10   18    2    0    4    4    5    8  0.273  0.324  0.485  0.809  0.259  3.55  0.051  0.000
Late (7th on)      41    3    8    0    0    1    2    3    6  0.195  0.244  0.268  0.513  0.206  3.73  0.049  0.043
0 outs             53    8   17    5    0    2    6    4    8  0.321  0.362  0.528  0.890  0.349  3.66  0.041  0.211
CUBS leading       40    2    6    3    0    1    6    8    9  0.150  0.286  0.300  0.586  0.167  4.22  0.136  0.179
last 15 games      41    3   14    2    0    2    4    4    5  0.341  0.400  0.537  0.937  0.353  4.07  0.059  0.100
May                61    8   19    3    0    4    9    8   14  0.311  0.391  0.557  0.949  0.349  4.25  0.080  0.147
Home               79   12   22    5    0    4   13   10   20  0.278  0.356  0.494  0.849  0.327  4.24  0.077  0.188
Day                67   11   19    5    0    4   14    7   17  0.284  0.347  0.537  0.884  0.326  4.04  0.063  0.227
vs Right          120   13   28    6    0    5   17    8   28  0.233  0.277  0.408  0.685  0.264  3.94  0.044  0.174
vs. L.A.            7    0    2    1    0    0    0    1    1  0.286  0.375  0.429  0.804  0.333  4.88  0.089  0.000
Jeff Kellogg        3    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0  0.000  0.250  0.000  0.250  0.000  3.25  0.250  0.000

season totals     135   15   33    7    0    5   19   15   28  0.244  0.316  0.407  0.723  0.275  3.98  0.071  0.179

[sweetpeteman]

10 straight starts for Dempster where he's gone 6 IP or more.

 

Well done, Demp! =D>

 

 

Except for his last start, where he went 4...

[Outshined_One]

10 straight starts for Dempster where he's gone 6 IP or more.

 

Well done, Demp! =D>

 

 

Except for his last start, where he went 4...

 

Whoopsie, misread his stat line.

 

In any case, 10 starts of 6 IP or more this season is pretty darn good.

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee popped out (foul) to first base