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Outshined_One

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Fans don't hold baseball to a high moral standard? Fans don't really care that much about steroids to begin with but if there is a sport where there is a standard it definitly is baseball.

 

Honestly, I think the high moral standard comes from obnoxious sportswriters and politicians with nothing better to do more than from the fans. With McGwire and Bonds, it was blatantly obvious they were using PEDs. Yet, their fans loved them and to this day still defend those guys.

 

Go Milton go!

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D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
runners on         69    5   15    5    0    1   15   10   20  0.217  0.309  0.333  0.642  0.292  4.36  0.091  0.179
Middle (4-6)       47    6   11    1    0    3   11    4    9  0.234  0.294  0.447  0.741  0.229  3.86  0.060  0.276
0 outs             53    8   17    5    0    2    6    4    8  0.321  0.362  0.528  0.890  0.349  3.66  0.041  0.211
CUBS leading       40    2    6    3    0    1    6    8    9  0.150  0.286  0.300  0.586  0.167  4.22  0.136  0.179
last 15 games      41    3   14    2    0    2    4    4    5  0.341  0.400  0.537  0.937  0.353  4.07  0.059  0.100
May                61    8   19    3    0    4    9    8   14  0.311  0.391  0.557  0.949  0.349  4.25  0.080  0.147
Home               79   12   22    5    0    4   13   10   20  0.278  0.356  0.494  0.849  0.327  4.24  0.077  0.188
Day                67   11   19    5    0    4   14    7   17  0.284  0.347  0.537  0.884  0.326  4.04  0.063  0.227
vs Right          120   13   28    6    0    5   17    8   28  0.233  0.277  0.408  0.685  0.264  3.94  0.044  0.174
vs. L.A.            7    0    2    1    0    0    0    1    1  0.286  0.375  0.429  0.804  0.333  4.88  0.089  0.000
Jeff Kellogg        3    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0  0.000  0.250  0.000  0.250  0.000  3.25  0.250  0.000

season totals     135   15   33    7    0    5   19   15   28  0.244  0.316  0.407  0.723  0.275  3.98  0.071  0.179

David GOAT

David

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Fans don't hold baseball to a high moral standard? Fans don't really care that much about steroids to begin with but if there is a sport where there is a standard it definitly is baseball.

 

Honestly, I think the high moral standard comes from obnoxious sportswriters and politicians with nothing better to do more than from the fans. With McGwire and Bonds, it was blatantly obvious they were using PEDs. Yet, their fans loved them and to this day still defend those guys.

 

Go Milton go!

 

 

Agreed. Personally, I can admit that I don't really give a damn.

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Fred Hornkohl

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Johnson            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               26    2    4    1    1    0    7    0    6  0.154  0.179  0.269  0.448  0.200  3.68  0.025  0.146
Middle (4-6)       20    6    7    1    0    0    3    2    3  0.350  0.440  0.400  0.840  0.412  3.44  0.090  0.150
0 outs             20    6    6    0    0    0    1    3    1  0.300  0.375  0.300  0.675  0.316  3.83  0.075  0.125
CUBS leading       30    4    5    1    0    0    4    1    6  0.167  0.235  0.200  0.435  0.208  3.38  0.069  0.138
last 15 games      22    5    6    1    0    2    6    1    4  0.273  0.304  0.591  0.895  0.250  3.26  0.032  0.182
May                34    9    9    1    1    2   10    3    6  0.265  0.316  0.529  0.845  0.269  3.58  0.051  0.258
Home               37    7   10    1    0    1    5    2    4  0.270  0.317  0.378  0.695  0.281  3.78  0.047  0.125
Day                37    7   10    1    0    2    6    2    6  0.270  0.341  0.459  0.801  0.276  3.51  0.071  0.129
vs Right           48    7   12    1    0    2    6    1    9  0.250  0.288  0.396  0.684  0.270  3.50  0.038  0.114
vs. L.A.            4    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.250  0.250  0.250  0.500  0.250  3.50  0.000  0.000
Jeff Kellogg        2    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0  0.000  0.500  0.000  0.500  0.000  4.75  0.500  0.000

season totals      71   11   17    1    1    2   10    5   11  0.239  0.313  0.366  0.679  0.259  3.54  0.073  0.140

Andy GOAT

Andy

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Just say the word "steroids" Joe. Just say it. Quit dancing around it like the FCC will fine you for using it.

"I am disgusted by that! I apologize to you, the viewers, for having to listen to Ken Rosenthal say the word 'steroids'!"

Outshined_One Cooperstown

Outshined_One

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Just say the word "steroids" Joe. Just say it. Quit dancing around it like the FCC will fine you for using it.

"I am disgusted by that! I apologize to you, the viewers, for having to listen to Ken Rosenthal say the word 'steroids'!"

 

Where's Randy Moss when you need him?

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Soto               AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
bases loaded        3    1    0    0    0    0    3    3    0  0.000  0.500  0.000  0.500  0.000  4.50  0.500  0.250
Middle (4-6)       40    3    7    2    0    0    3    6   11  0.175  0.283  0.225  0.508  0.241  4.13  0.108  0.158
0 outs             43    3   10    1    0    0    1    5   11  0.233  0.313  0.256  0.568  0.313  4.50  0.080  0.083
CUBS leading       48    2   11    1    0    1    5    2   10  0.229  0.260  0.313  0.573  0.270  3.66  0.031  0.125
last 15 games      39    3   12    2    0    1    7    5    7  0.308  0.391  0.436  0.827  0.355  3.83  0.084  0.286
May                73    6   21    3    0    1    9   10   17  0.288  0.376  0.370  0.746  0.364  4.12  0.089  0.186
Home               64    6   17    2    0    1   11   13   10  0.266  0.392  0.344  0.736  0.302  4.00  0.127  0.238
Day                57    5   10    3    0    0    5   10   11  0.175  0.304  0.228  0.532  0.217  4.28  0.129  0.147
vs Right           99    8   21    4    0    1    8   14   23  0.212  0.313  0.283  0.596  0.267  4.09  0.101  0.130
vs. L.A.            3    0    1    0    0    0    0    1    1  0.333  0.500  0.333  0.833  0.500  4.00  0.167  0.000
Jeff Kellogg        3    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    2  0.000  0.250  0.000  0.250  0.000  4.75  0.250  0.000

season totals     119    9   26    4    0    1   11   19   28  0.218  0.333  0.277  0.611  0.278  4.11  0.115  0.141

Andy GOAT

Andy

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Jeff Weaver was some kind of stupid to leave St. Louis.

If you want money, leave St. Louis.

 

If you want your numbers to inexplicably stay well better than they would be with the other 29 teams, stay there.

 

Toss-up.

 

BTW, I want a Sotoslam here.

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