When are the Cubs going to get a third baseman?

[17 Seconds]

it was mind boggling that he thought it was okay to trade derosa AND sign bradley. i mean, seriously.

[Little Slide Rooter]

My guess is that if we really want to get Branyan sooner than later, as long as we have a few extra mil laying around, the key to the deal could be to offer to take the contract of Batista or Washburn off their hands as well, both of whom theyve been unsuccessfully trying to shop for a while now. Granted, we dont need Washburn, and Batista would basically be Luis Vizcaino V2, but if it necessary to get a deal done, go for it.

[dew1679666265]

My guess is that if we really want to get Branyan sooner than later, as long as we have a few extra mil laying around, the key to the deal could be to offer to take the contract of Batista or Washburn off their hands as well, both of whom theyve been unsuccessfully trying to shop for a while now. Granted, we dont need Washburn, and Batista would basically be Luis Vizcaino V2, but if it necessary to get a deal done, go for it.

 

I don't know if they can use that tact with a guy like Branyan. He's a very nice bench player, but he's not that unique for them to force us to take on a bad contract with him.

 

If it came down to it, though, I might take one of Batista or Washburn if it helped us get Branyan for next to nothing. That's if we can afford to take on $9-10 million this year.

[Backtobanks]

My guess is that if we really want to get Branyan sooner than later, as long as we have a few extra mil laying around, the key to the deal could be to offer to take the contract of Batista or Washburn off their hands as well, both of whom theyve been unsuccessfully trying to shop for a while now. Granted, we dont need Washburn, and Batista would basically be Luis Vizcaino V2, but if it necessary to get a deal done, go for it.

 

I hear that the Indians are nearing the selling mode. How about we offer the 3 pitchers we got for DeRosa to them for DeRosa and Vizcaino.

[17 Seconds]

I seriously can't believe a move hasn't been made. Get your fat ass on the phone and get SOMEBODY, Jim. Seriously. Now we're down 3-0 because our crappy 2B is forced to play 3B where he sucks and the guy we're playing at 2B is a career minor leaguer who can't even hit a sac fly.

 

Like I said, to be in this situation because of one single injury when we have a payroll this big and are in "win mode" is an absolute joke.

 

Thanks for the depth, Jim.

[Old Style]

Not having a third baseman cost us the game tonight. Too many mistakes by Fontenot to even count. Inexcusable.

[Schwarber Fan]

k, time to do something

 

Fontenot single-handedly lost the game for us tonight

[ConstableRabbit]

Two awful plays in a row...

 

Jim, get on the horn ASAP

[17 Seconds]

k, time to do something

 

Fontenot single-handedly lost the game for us tonight

 

Blubber boy behind the plate helped too. That's twice we've lost in extras this road trip because he couldb't block a ball in the dirt

[MADD_DOG_31]

k, time to do something

 

Fontenot single-handedly lost the game for us tonight

 

Blubber boy behind the plate helped too. That's twice we've lost in extras this road trip because he couldb't block a ball in the dirt

 

absolutely....and Lou is afraid to put Fox at 3rd????

 

Soto has been brutal behind the plate all year IMO

[17 Seconds]

Until Jim actually does something, this is nothing more than a .500 team. It's very simple. This current team is not capable of making any kind of run. Terrible offense, defense, and bullpen.

 

And Jim continues to do nothing.

[UMFan83]

Until Jim actually does something, this is nothing more than a .500 team. It's very simple. This current team is not capable of making any kind of run. Terrible offense, defense, and bullpen.

 

And Jim continues to do nothing.

 

I wonder if theres like a cap on the amont he's allowed to spend without getting approval by the new owner and the Trib co. Like he can acquire a $2 million player but can't aquire a $4 million player without approval.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

There is no trade to be made right now. Where could they do something? They have long term contracts at all 3 OF spots, 1B, and 3B(meaning you can't trade for an impact 3B unless he can play somewhere else, making it impossible). SS is getting fine production, so you're left with giving up on last year's ROY or getting a new 2B to improve the offense. The rotation has been more than fine considering who's been getting the starts, and while the bullpen has been bad, the premium to add a bullpen arm on June 6th would be extravagant(and I know I've seen dexter saying we shouldn't be giving up trading chips for a win-now move). Furthermore, there's like 20-25 teams that are technically still in contention for a playoff spot, so there's not going to be too many teams willing to part with a 2B/C/RP to help us out.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Right now, weve got an entire lineup of under producers, and its sickening. Scales and Blanco arent much worse than Soriano and co. We need more than Russell Branyan if were going to keep our heads above water. At this time, this is the Brewers division to win or lose.

[17 Seconds]

There is no trade to be made right now. Where could they do something? They have long term contracts at all 3 OF spots, 1B, and 3B(meaning you can't trade for an impact 3B unless he can play somewhere else, making it impossible). SS is getting fine production, so you're left with giving up on last year's ROY or getting a new 2B to improve the offense. The rotation has been more than fine considering who's been getting the starts, and while the bullpen has been bad, the premium to add a bullpen arm on June 6th would be extravagant(and I know I've seen dexter saying we shouldn't be giving up trading chips for a win-now move). Furthermore, there's like 20-25 teams that are technically still in contention for a playoff spot, so there's not going to be too many teams willing to part with a 2B/C/RP to help us out.

 

Wait, there's no trade to be made right now?

 

None of us are talking about getting some great third baseman. We're talking about somebody who can actually play third base for a major league team. Don't act like that's so hard to find.

 

I mean, Ramirez has been out for weeks now and we're still going with Fontenot at 3rd and Scales.Blanco at second. That's ridiculous. Fontenot should be at second and we should have somebody who is actually a 3B at third.

 

As for me saying I wouldn't give up prospects for a win move... I never said that. I said I wouldn't do it for a rental player like Holliday

Edited June 7, 2009 by 17 Seconds

[17 Seconds]

Right now, weve got an entire lineup of under producers, and its sickening. Scales and Blanco arent much worse than Soriano and co. We need more than Russell Branyan if were going to keep our heads above water. At this time, this is the Brewers division to win or lose.

 

I don't know about that. The Brewers are playing way over their heads. They're on pace to win like 95+ games. If they won that many games with that rotation it would be the most efficient team in baseball history. I still think the cards are def. better as long as Carpenter and lohse stay healthy.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

There is no trade to be made right now. Where could they do something? They have long term contracts at all 3 OF spots, 1B, and 3B(meaning you can't trade for an impact 3B unless he can play somewhere else, making it impossible). SS is getting fine production, so you're left with giving up on last year's ROY or getting a new 2B to improve the offense. The rotation has been more than fine considering who's been getting the starts, and while the bullpen has been bad, the premium to add a bullpen arm on June 6th would be extravagant(and I know I've seen dexter saying we shouldn't be giving up trading chips for a win-now move). Furthermore, there's like 20-25 teams that are technically still in contention for a playoff spot, so there's not going to be too many teams willing to part with a 2B/C/RP to help us out.

 

Wait, there's no trade to be made right now?

 

None of us are talking about getting some great third baseman. We're talking about somebody who can actually play third base for a major league team. Don't act like that's so hard to find.

 

As for me saying I wouldn't give up prospects for a win move... I never said that. I said I wouldn't do it for a rental player like Holliday

 

Who's going to trade with you, and who's the target that's good enough to be worth parting with worthwhile prospects for? I don't really want to part with Casey Coleman or Tony Thomas because our underachieving offense hasn't started to pick up for the loss of Ramirez(who's probably back actually playing third base for a major league team after the all-star break), especially when they are very likely to begin doing so over the next few weeks.

 

My apologies for misattributing you, although a bullpen arm would in all likelihood be a rental(and again, cost a heavy premium).

[17 Seconds]

There is no trade to be made right now. Where could they do something? They have long term contracts at all 3 OF spots, 1B, and 3B(meaning you can't trade for an impact 3B unless he can play somewhere else, making it impossible). SS is getting fine production, so you're left with giving up on last year's ROY or getting a new 2B to improve the offense. The rotation has been more than fine considering who's been getting the starts, and while the bullpen has been bad, the premium to add a bullpen arm on June 6th would be extravagant(and I know I've seen dexter saying we shouldn't be giving up trading chips for a win-now move). Furthermore, there's like 20-25 teams that are technically still in contention for a playoff spot, so there's not going to be too many teams willing to part with a 2B/C/RP to help us out.

 

Wait, there's no trade to be made right now?

 

None of us are talking about getting some great third baseman. We're talking about somebody who can actually play third base for a major league team. Don't act like that's so hard to find.

 

As for me saying I wouldn't give up prospects for a win move... I never said that. I said I wouldn't do it for a rental player like Holliday

 

Who's going to trade with you, and who's the target that's good enough to be worth parting with worthwhile prospects for? I don't really want to part with Casey Coleman or Tony Thomas because our underachieving offense hasn't started to pick up for the loss of Ramirez(who's probably back actually playing third base for a major league team after the all-star break), especially when they are very likely to begin doing so over the next few weeks.

 

My apologies for misattributing you, although a bullpen arm would in all likelihood be a rental(and again, cost a heavy premium).

 

Like I said, I'm not even talking about getting a good player. I'm talking about getting somebody who can actually play third base and OPS above .700 so Fontenot can move back to second. It really shouldn't be hard to find a backup third baseman.

[Little Slide Rooter]

There is no trade to be made right now. Where could they do something? They have long term contracts at all 3 OF spots, 1B, and 3B(meaning you can't trade for an impact 3B unless he can play somewhere else, making it impossible). SS is getting fine production, so you're left with giving up on last year's ROY or getting a new 2B to improve the offense. The rotation has been more than fine considering who's been getting the starts, and while the bullpen has been bad, the premium to add a bullpen arm on June 6th would be extravagant(and I know I've seen dexter saying we shouldn't be giving up trading chips for a win-now move). Furthermore, there's like 20-25 teams that are technically still in contention for a playoff spot, so there's not going to be too many teams willing to part with a 2B/C/RP to help us out.

 

Wait, there's no trade to be made right now?

 

None of us are talking about getting some great third baseman. We're talking about somebody who can actually play third base for a major league team. Don't act like that's so hard to find.

 

As for me saying I wouldn't give up prospects for a win move... I never said that. I said I wouldn't do it for a rental player like Holliday

 

Who's going to trade with you, and who's the target that's good enough to be worth parting with worthwhile prospects for? I don't really want to part with Casey Coleman or Tony Thomas because our underachieving offense hasn't started to pick up for the loss of Ramirez(who's probably back actually playing third base for a major league team after the all-star break), especially when they are very likely to begin doing so over the next few weeks.

 

My apologies for misattributing you, although a bullpen arm would in all likelihood be a rental(and again, cost a heavy premium).

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If that's your criteria, then odds are we'd get that from what we have now over the next month until Ramirez comes back. If you want some guy who looks the part of the third baseman too, who is it? Even mediocre 3B at the MLB level aren't given away, look at the discussion about Kouzmanoff from last week.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I really feel that we could get a Branyan or something like that without giving up too much in return, but the fact of the matter is, if guys like Lee, Soriano, Bradley, and Soto dont start really pulling it together, its not going to do us a hell of a lot of good. With or without Ramirez, we have an offense that should be worth more than 2 runs a game. We have the talent. Its not like were trotting out a bunch of 37 year olds. The Cubs were built for the scenerio of an injury or a slump of a top player, even 2, but when this many guys are either hurt or flat out not doing there job, youre not going to win many games no matter what your pay roll looks like.

[17 Seconds]

If that's your criteria, then odds are we'd get that from what we have now over the next month until Ramirez comes back. If you want some guy who looks the part of the third baseman too, who is it? Even mediocre 3B at the MLB level aren't given away, look at the discussion about Kouzmanoff from last week.

 

Kouzmanoff is better than the type of guys I'm talking about.

[17 Seconds]

but the fact of the matter is, if guys like Lee, Soriano, Bradley, and Soto dont start really pulling it together, its not going to do us a hell of a lot of good.

 

Why are you including Lee? Lee has been awesome since April

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If that's your criteria, then odds are we'd get that from what we have now over the next month until Ramirez comes back. If you want some guy who looks the part of the third baseman too, who is it? Even mediocre 3B at the MLB level aren't given away, look at the discussion about Kouzmanoff from last week.

 

Kouzmanoff is better than the type of guys I'm talking about.

 

Then please, say who you're talking about. Who should they get to fill this one month void until Ramirez is back?

[Little Slide Rooter]

If that's your criteria, then odds are we'd get that from what we have now over the next month until Ramirez comes back. If you want some guy who looks the part of the third baseman too, who is it? Even mediocre 3B at the MLB level aren't given away, look at the discussion about Kouzmanoff from last week.

 

Kouzmanoff is better than the type of guys I'm talking about.

 

Then please, say who you're talking about. Who should they get to fill this one month void until Ramirez is back?

 

Id be all for throwing up a prayer with Rich Aurilia. Granted, hes not what he once was, or even what Jose Macias once was, but at least theres the off chance of catching lightening in a bottle for a month, and we wouldnt have to give up much.