Cub prospects in the news

[SouthSideRyan]

 

My new temporarily favorite show, The New Girl, taught me something. It taught me that holding hands with the pretty girl is not closing the pretty girl. Len and Bob broadcast for a couple of pretty good Cubs teams. I like to think the future is a little bit brighter for the broadcast guys and the Cubs. I do believe they can do better than piling up regular seasons wins (yes, admittedly it was fun) only to be bounced by the Dodgers (beyond the two K lefties in that franchise I find the whole LA history of that franchise to be a non-entity) in the first round. I watched the 2002 Yankees win 103 games in 2002 while pounding on the opposition. Ask a Yankee fan to recall that glorious season...2004 won 101 (2003 also won 100+)...2005 won 95...2006 won 97...Nobody cares.

 

Considering Len & Bob don't call postseason games, the regular season is all that matters.

 

Yeah well...still room to go up...like when the Cub Network or whatever it will be called is launched.

 

Edit: HA! Bob does. We're both asses for not knowing, but the information benefits me.

 

I'm relatively sure IG was being sarcastic. Considering your point is how great it'll be to have them on the national stage when the Cubs are good, it's pretty silly to act like Brenly calling games with Vasgergian or whoever will be a big deal for him.

[Guest]

 

...So it was a standard?

 

My new temporarily favorite show, The New Girl, taught me something. It taught me that holding hands with the pretty girl is not closing the pretty girl. Len and Bob broadcast for a couple of pretty good Cubs teams. I like to think the future is a little bit brighter for the broadcast guys and the Cubs. I do believe they can do better than piling up regular seasons wins (yes, admittedly it was fun) only to be bounced by the Dodgers (beyond the two K lefties in that franchise I find the whole LA history of that franchise to be a non-entity) in the first round. I watched the 2002 Yankees win 103 games while pounding on the opposition. Ask a Yankee fan to recall that glorious season...2004 won 101 (2003 also won 100+)...2005 won 95...2006 won 97...Nobody cares.

 

That analogy only works if holding hands really meant you were better at getting girls and "closing" her was just based on a lucky crapshoot.

[illiniguy]

I was. I love Len. I don't care how bad the team is in correlation to enjoying what he brings to the table. He has added so much to the broadcast with his embracing of sabermetrics. I think what I find most appealing is he knows what they are, talks about them, and doesn't force feed them down everyone's throats. For my money I think he is the best pbp guy in baseball.

 

Bob is pretty solid as well. I know he's a bit old school, but working with Len has really brought him around on a lot of matters. Plus it could be worse. Here in Kansas City, Rex Hudler is the color man. He makes my ears cry.

[Guest]

Rex Hudler used to do Angels games - he's so unbelievably brutal.

[illiniguy]

Rex Hudler used to do Angels games - he's so unbelievably brutal.

He's a very nice guy, but good lord he is bad at talking about baseball.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

 

That analogy only works if holding hands really meant you were better at getting girls and "closing" her was just based on a lucky crapshoot.

 

No, it works. Yay we held her hand/won alot of games! Yay! OH, there's more!?!?!?

[Guest]

Rex Hudler did spawn the P90Rex meme, so it's not all bad at least.

[Guest]

 

That analogy only works if holding hands really meant you were better at getting girls and "closing" her was just based on a lucky crapshoot.

 

No, it works. Yay we held her hand/won alot of games! Yay! OH, there's more!?!?!?

 

That was a weird edit.

 

But no.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

 

That analogy only works if holding hands really meant you were better at getting girls and "closing" her was just based on a lucky crapshoot.

 

No, it works. Yay we held her hand/won alot of games! Yay! OH, there's more!?!?!?

 

That was a weird edit.

 

But no.

 

It was, but yes. When the only guy on your staff who has even close to above average control is the non-power lefty, things can get rocky in the playoff world. Call it bad luck...I call it having your third best pitcher from the 2003 Almost WS team and a guy who lived on the DL as your top two pitchers.

 

That team was a nice team. Nobody cares anymore. There's plenty of room to go up from that, and beyond the regular season success of the lineup even that can be done better.

 

When that happens, Len and Bob will be the [expletive] in the broadcasting world.

Edited May 25, 2012 by PriortoTheoIhadWood

[jersey cubs fan]

Wouldn't that 08 season be more like having a whole bunch of great sex with the hot foreign exchange student all summer long and then the day before school starts up you get a little too drunk, have trouble performing and find out she transfered to another school the next day? Or actually, you show up to school and find out she was seeing somebody else and she takes a week to decide to be his homecoming date instead of yours. Edited May 25, 2012 by jersey cubs fan

[Guest]

Itto (Aguadilla, PR): Is it time to start worrying about Brett Jackson SO rate and recent slump?

 

Ben Badler: The strikeouts are a concern, but we've always known that's just part of who he's going to be. The swing and miss is going to keep his AVG down, but he does take his walks, he hits for power, he has speed and can be a quality defender in center field, so I think we're talking more about small adjustments than any radical overhauls that need to be made here.

 

Navin (Pasadena, CA): What are your thoughts on the slow start in Peoria for SS Marco Hernandez?

 

Ben Badler: Concerning. It's not time to panic, but I'm very surprised he's struggled so badly at the plate.

 

Tony (Pittsburgh): Is Jorge Soler going to sign soon?

 

Ben Badler: He's not a free agent yet, and there hasn't been any announcement of him obtaining his residency papers yet either, both of which need to happen first before he can sign, plus he'll need OFAC clearance. My bet is that something is in the works and he gets it all done before July 2. Frankly, it shouldn't be that hard to go through Mexico to get papers done if he needs them.

 

Itto (Aguadilla, PR): What kind of numbers Anthony Rizzo is capable to have once he reach the majors?

 

Ben Badler: A .290/.360/.480 type guy with good defense in his prime years is certainly possible. I'd chop some off those numbers at first though as he adjusts to major league pitching.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1337964862

[illiniguy]

Rex Hudler did spawn the P90Rex meme, so it's not all bad at least.

You moved and don't have to listen to him do every royal game. You don't know my pain.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Wouldn't that 98 season be more like having a whole bunch of great sex with the hot foreign exchange student all summer long and then the day before school starts up you get a little too drunk, have trouble performing and find out she transfered to another school the next day? Or actually, you show up to school and find out she was seeing somebody else and she takes a week to decide to be his homecoming date instead of yours.

 

Foreign girls always get extra points.

[jersey cubs fan]

Itto (Aguadilla, PR): What kind of numbers Anthony Rizzo is capable to have once he reach the majors?

 

Ben Badler: A .290/.360/.480 type guy with good defense in his prime years is certainly possible. I'd chop some off those numbers at first though as he adjusts to major league pitching.

 

 

He's got that as Rizzo in his prime? How incredibly disappointing that would be. I could see him being that type of player over time, but I would have to think in his prime he's got more than an 840 OPS in him.

[Guest]

Itto (Aguadilla, PR): What kind of numbers Anthony Rizzo is capable to have once he reach the majors?

 

Ben Badler: A .290/.360/.480 type guy with good defense in his prime years is certainly possible. I'd chop some off those numbers at first though as he adjusts to major league pitching.

 

 

He's got that as Rizzo in his prime? How incredibly disappointing that would be. I could see him being that type of player over time, but I would have to think in his prime he's got more than an 840 OPS in him.

 

To me, the average looks high and the SLG looks low.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Itto (Aguadilla, PR): What kind of numbers Anthony Rizzo is capable to have once he reach the majors?

 

Ben Badler: A .290/.360/.480 type guy with good defense in his prime years is certainly possible. I'd chop some off those numbers at first though as he adjusts to major league pitching.

 

 

He's got that as Rizzo in his prime? How incredibly disappointing that would be. I could see him being that type of player over time, but I would have to think in his prime he's got more than an 840 OPS in him.

 

Agreed...there's got to be more power there than that in his prime years.

[Guest]

An .840 OPS isn't even awful in this run environment(it would rank 7th of qualified 1B, and LaHair, LaRoche, and Edwin Encarnacion are 3 of the 6), but that is a disappointing answer to the hypothetical ceiling question.

[jersey cubs fan]

An .840 OPS isn't even awful in this run environment(it would rank 7th of qualified 1B, and LaHair, LaRoche, and Edwin Encarnacion are 3 of the 6), but that is a disappointing answer to the hypothetical ceiling question.

 

It's not awful, but it's a low peak.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I remember reading that he had a ceiling of Ryan Howard, and this was before the season started. I forget where, perhaps from Sickels.

[Guest]

Wouldn't that 08 season be more like having a whole bunch of great sex with the hot foreign exchange student all summer long and then the day before school starts up you get a little too drunk, have trouble performing and find out she transfered to another school the next day? Or actually, you show up to school and find out she was seeing somebody else and she takes a week to decide to be his homecoming date instead of yours.

 

 

haha yes

[Proven Veteran]

I remember reading that he had a ceiling of Ryan Howard, and this was before the season started. I forget where, perhaps from Sickels.

His game is nothing like Ryan Howard.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Wouldn't that 08 season be more like having a whole bunch of great sex with the hot foreign exchange student all summer long and then the day before school starts up you get a little too drunk, have trouble performing and find out she transfered to another school the next day? Or actually, you show up to school and find out she was seeing somebody else and she takes a week to decide to be his homecoming date instead of yours.

 

More like she suddenly drops dead and leaves you with a little something to rember her by, causing you 4 long years of pain and suffering all the while hoping that the cure isn't too far from being discovered and that your family will be willing to pay for it.

[UMFan83]

Anyone mention that KLaw revised his Top 25 prospect list to account for the start of the season. He had Rizzo at number 20, up from 36 before the season started.

[Guest]

Anyone mention that KLaw revised his Top 25 prospect list to account for the start of the season. He had Rizzo at number 20, up from 36 before the season started.

 

Thanks. I don't have ESPN Insider so I couldn't read it. 20 sounds about right for Rizzo.

 

I know he had Bundy #1. If I may ask, where were Bauer and Cole on his revised top 25?

[UMFan83]

Anyone mention that KLaw revised his Top 25 prospect list to account for the start of the season. He had Rizzo at number 20, up from 36 before the season started.

 

Thanks. I don't have ESPN Insider so I couldn't read it. 20 sounds about right for Rizzo.

 

I know he had Bundy #1. If I may ask, where were Bauer and Cole on his revised top 25?

 

I'll just list his entire top 25:

 

1. Dylan Bundy, RHP, BAL (previously 11)

2. Jurickson Pofar, SS, TEX (7)

3. Manny Machado, SS, BAL (4)

4. Travis d'Arnaud, C, TOR (6)

5. Will Myers, OF, KC (13)

6. Taijuan Walker, RHP, SEA (24)

7. Gerrit Cole, RHP, PIT (10)

8. Trevor Bauer, RHP, ARI (21)

9. Shelby Miller, RHP, STL (5)

10. Jameson Taillon, RHP, PIT (15)

11. Miguel Sano, 3B, MIN (28)

12. Archie Bradley, RHP, ARI (19)

13. Tyler Skaggs, LHP, ARI (25)

14. Bubba Starling, CF, KC (15)

15. Christian Yelich, OF, MIA (48)

16. Zach Wheeler, RHP, NYM (27)

17. Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE (35)

18. Nick Castellanos, 3B, DET (37)

19. Julio Teheran, RHP, ATL (18)

20. Anthony Rizzo, 1B, CHC (36)

21. Oscar Taveras, RF, STL (53)

22. Danny Hultzen, LHP, SEA (30)

23. Nolan Arenado, 3B COL (26)

24. Mason Williams, CF, NYY (34)

25. Billy Hamilton, SS, CIN (64)

 

He also mentions the following to watch for in his midseason update:

Jackie Bradley, CF, BOS

Matt Barnes, RHP, BOS

Jonathan Singleton, 1B, HOU

Zach Lee, RHP, LAD

Aaron Sanchez, RHP, TOR

Austin Hedges, C, SD

Matt Davidson, 3B, ARI