2009 NCAA Tournament Mock Selection Committee

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You don't like Cal?

 

I liked Cal, the first time through, I had them around 5-6 on my bubble, but took a 2nd look and bumped em out.

 

i don't understand what your bubble is, you have 16 locks and 8 bubble teams, there are a lot more teams that make the tourney than that.

 

That's what Bukie asked for those participating to submit.

[TruffleShuffle]

You don't like Cal?

 

I liked Cal, the first time through, I had them around 5-6 on my bubble, but took a 2nd look and bumped em out.

 

i don't understand what your bubble is, you have 16 locks and 8 bubble teams, there are a lot more teams that make the tourney than that.

 

Those are his protected seeds and then his top eight bubble teams.

 

ah okay.

[bukie]

Northern Iowa won the MVC, which takes them out of consideration for an at-large bid and puts them on the auto-bid list.

[Exile on Waveland]

I have not thoroughly perused each team, but this is at least a rough approximation of my protected seeds:

 

Pitt

North Carolina

UConn

Louisville

Duke

Michigan State

Oklahoma

Memphis

Wake Forest

Kansas

Missouri

Clemson

Villanova

Washington

UCLA

Xavier

 

Rough bubble teams:

 

West Virginia

Texas

California

BYU

Utah

Texas A&M

Wisconsin

Boston College/Oklahoma State

 

I have to be honest, I didn't even look at the bubble list from this thread while ranking the above. So it's very possible one of those is considered a lock for purposes of this thread, or someone better isn't and I overlooked them.

[ISUCubsFan]

Preliminary lists. Will probably change between now and tomorrow. Let me know if I forgot anyone obvious.

 

Top 16 Overall:

 

Pittsburgh

Connecticut

North Carolina

Oklahoma

Michigan State

Duke

Louisville

Memphis

Wake Forest

Villanova

Kansas

Missouri

Washington

Florida State

Clemson

Illinois

 

Top 8 Non-Locks:

 

Texas

California

West Virginia

Utah

Ohio State

BYU

Arizona

Michigan

[Z38Cubs]

I have my 16 top locks as:

 

Pittsburgh

UNC

UConn

Oklahoma

Michigan St.

Memphis

Louisville

Duke

Wake Forest

Washington

Clemson

Kansas

Xavier

Missouri

UCLA

Gonzaga

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top 8 still under consideration:

 

California

BYU

West Virginia

Texas

Boston College

Tennessee

Ohio St.

Wisconsin

Edited March 9, 2009 by Z38Cubs

[SouthSideRyan]

Z, pretty sure each list is supposed to be in order from best to worst. I don't know if your bubble list is, but the locks definitely aren't.

[Guest]

Preliminary lists. Will probably change between now and tomorrow. Let me know if I forgot anyone obvious.

 

Top 16 Overall:

 

Pittsburgh

Connecticut

North Carolina

Oklahoma

Michigan State

Duke

Louisville

Memphis

Wake Forest

Villanova

Kansas

Missouri

Washington

Florida State

Clemson

Illinois

 

Top 8 Non-Locks:

 

Texas

California

West Virginia

Utah

Ohio State

BYU

Arizona

Michigan

 

UCLA?

[UMFan83]

Preliminary lists. Will probably change between now and tomorrow. Let me know if I forgot anyone obvious.

 

Top 16 Overall:

 

Pittsburgh

Connecticut

North Carolina

Oklahoma

Michigan State

Duke

Louisville

Memphis

Wake Forest

Villanova

Kansas

Missouri

Washington

Florida State

Clemson

Illinois

 

Top 8 Non-Locks:

 

Texas

California

West Virginia

Utah

Ohio State

BYU

Arizona

Michigan

 

UCLA?

 

Bubble team if I ever did see one :)

[Prior4CyYoung]

St Marys beat Portland to advance to the WAC championship. Obviously if they beat Gonzaga the WAC gets 2 teams but they still might be in even if they lose.

[Prior4CyYoung]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

[Guest]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

[Banedon]

I am not a college basketball guy, but with Illinois State being my alma mater, I watched the MVC Championship this weekend. Any chance that Il St gets in with an at-large bid? I'm suspecting not, but thought I'd run it by you guys.

[Exile on Waveland]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

 

And, um, LSU?

[bukie]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

 

His rep is Louisville, so he's not allowed to vote for them.

[bukie]

I have my 16 top locks as:

 

Pittsburgh

UNC

UConn

Oklahoma

Michigan St.

Memphis

Louisville

Duke

Wake Forest

Washington

Clemson

Kansas

Xavier

Missouri

UCLA

Gonzaga

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top 8 still under consideration(I've locked some teams since the last vote):

 

Texas A&M

Michigan

Oklahoma St.

Penn St.

Providence

Minnesota

St. Mary's

Arizona

 

Z, just so you know, the official "locks" for this committee are listed in the first post, so teams like WVU, Cal, Texas, and Wisconsin are not locks, per say, yet.

[bukie]

I am not a college basketball guy, but with Illinois State being my alma mater, I watched the MVC Championship this weekend. Any chance that Il St gets in with an at-large bid? I'm suspecting not, but thought I'd run it by you guys.

Really, really slim chance at this point. Possibly better than Creighton, but Illinois State had a better profile last year and didn't get an at-large (actually, that was the one team we missed on last year).

[SouthSideRyan]

Preliminary lists. Will probably change between now and tomorrow. Let me know if I forgot anyone obvious.

 

Top 16 Overall:

 

Pittsburgh

Connecticut

North Carolina

Oklahoma

Michigan State

Duke

Louisville

Memphis

Wake Forest

Villanova

Kansas

Missouri

Washington

Florida State

Clemson

Illinois

 

Top 8 Non-Locks:

 

Texas

California

West Virginia

Utah

Ohio State

BYU

Arizona

Michigan

 

UCLA?

 

Bubble team if I ever did see one :)

 

Doesn't mean they're a bubble team, it means they're a lock that he doesn't have ranked in his top 16. Bukie already listed the committee locks.

[SouthSideRyan]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

 

And, um, LSU?

 

Cause they suck?

[bukie]

To reiterate...

 

Current auto-bids (5):

East Tennessee State, Radford, Cornell, Northern Iowa, Morehead State

 

Current at-large locks (25):

Arizona State, Butler, Clemson, Connecticut, Duke, Florida State, Gonzaga, Illinois, Kansas, Louisville, LSU, Marquette, Memphis, Michigan State, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Syracuse, UCLA, Villanova, Wake Forest, Washington, Xavier

 

Current other teams in consideration (49):

Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, BYU, California, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, Siena, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah, Utah State, VCU, Virginia Tech, Washington State, West Virginia, Wisconsin

 

Current step of the process is for people to list the top 16 out of the locks and the top 8 out of the "other teams". 8 additional "other teams" will make the current at-large list 33, one shy of the 34 that exist. Eventually, at-large locks will win their conference tournaments (hopefully?), and other spots will open up.

[Exile on Waveland]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

 

And, um, LSU?

 

Cause they suck?

 

Yup. No way they deserve a protected seed.

[bukie]

As a fan of a team in danger of falling to a 6 seed, I'd pay good money to get LSU as a 3 seed in my bracket.

[Z38Cubs]

I have my 16 top locks as:

 

Pittsburgh

UNC

UConn

Oklahoma

Michigan St.

Memphis

Louisville

Duke

Wake Forest

Washington

Clemson

Kansas

Xavier

Missouri

UCLA

Gonzaga

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top 8 still under consideration(I've locked some teams since the last vote):

 

Texas A&M

Michigan

Oklahoma St.

Penn St.

Providence

Minnesota

St. Mary's

Arizona

 

Z, just so you know, the official "locks" for this committee are listed in the first post, so teams like WVU, Cal, Texas, and Wisconsin are not locks, per say, yet.

 

Ah ok, I knew I was doing something wrong. I think I've got the hang of it now, though.

[bukie]

Actual at-large bids are on the line tonight with the WCC (St. Mary's-Gonzaga), MAAC (Niagara-Siena), Colonial (VCU-George Mason) and Southern (Charleston-Chattanooga) championships.

 

In addition, two teams in their first year in Division 1 basketball both reached the semis of the Summit league tournament in North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

[Guest]

Ahh, my bad. Thanks for the clarification, bukie.