2009 NCAA Tournament Mock Selection Committee

[Exile on Waveland]

Actual at-large bids are on the line tonight with the WCC (St. Mary's-Gonzaga), MAAC (Niagara-Siena), Colonial (VCU-George Mason) and Southern (Charleston-Chattanooga) championships.

 

In addition, two teams in their first year in Division 1 basketball both reached the semis of the Summit league tournament in North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

 

I'm thinking both WCC teams get in regardless. Also, I just read that St. Mary's added a game against Eastern Washington this Friday. How odd is that?

[TruffleShuffle]

1. Pitt

2. UNC

3. UConn

4. Oklahoma

5. Louisville

6. Memphis

7. Duke

8. Michigan St

9. Kansas

10. Villanova

11. Washington

12. Wake Forest

13. Missouri

14. Xavier

15. UCLA

16. Gonzaga

 

consideration:

1. West Virginia

2. Cal

3. Texas

4. BYU

5. Utah

6. Oklahoma St

7. Wisconsin

8. Dayton

[bukie]

Reminder to get your top 16 locks and top 8 considerations to me by the end of the night tonight to make them count.

 

As for my picks, critique away (Illinois-free!):

 

1. North Carolina

2. Pittsburgh

3. Connecticut

4. Michigan State

5. Louisville

6. Duke

7. Oklahoma

8. Memphis

9. Wake Forest

10. Kansas

11. Villanova

12. Gonzaga

13. Missouri

14. UCLA

15. Syracuse

16. Washington

 

Considerations:

1. West Virginia

2. BYU

3. Utah

4. Wisconsin

5. Texas

6. California

7. Ohio State

8. Oklahoma State

[SouthSideRyan]

Actual at-large bids are on the line tonight with the WCC (St. Mary's-Gonzaga), MAAC (Niagara-Siena), Colonial (VCU-George Mason) and Southern (Charleston-Chattanooga) championships.

 

In addition, two teams in their first year in Division 1 basketball both reached the semis of the Summit league tournament in North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

 

I'm thinking both WCC teams get in regardless. Also, I just read that St. Mary's added a game against Eastern Washington this Friday. How odd is that?

 

That doesn't seem legal unless it's a make-up game.

[bukie]

Actual at-large bids are on the line tonight with the WCC (St. Mary's-Gonzaga), MAAC (Niagara-Siena), Colonial (VCU-George Mason) and Southern (Charleston-Chattanooga) championships.

 

In addition, two teams in their first year in Division 1 basketball both reached the semis of the Summit league tournament in North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

 

I'm thinking both WCC teams get in regardless. Also, I just read that St. Mary's added a game against Eastern Washington this Friday. How odd is that?

 

That doesn't seem legal unless it's a make-up game.

They still had an available game, I think, due to the preseason tournament they played. I think the sole reason they're doing this is to get Mills some extra playing time before the postseason.

[Vanilla Ice]

Protected seeds - ordered 1-16

 

1 Seeds

Pittsburgh

UNC

UConn

Oklahoma

 

2 Seeds

MSU

Louisville

Wake Forest

Memphis

 

3 Seeds

Kansas

Villanova

Gonzaga

Washington

 

4 Seeds

Florida State

Missouri

UCLA

Xavier

 

 

Bubble teams

 

1. West Virginia

2. Texas

3. California

4. BYU

5. Utah

6. Boston College

7. Wisconsin

8. Oklahoma State

 

(List compiled without Duke)

[SouthSideRyan]

MSU has an absurd 12-2 record vs. top 50 RPI.

[Prior4CyYoung]

Locks

1. Pittsburg

2. UCONN

3. UNC

4. Oklahoma

5. Memphis

6. Michigan State

7. Wake Forest

8. Kansas

9. Duke

10. Villanova

11. LSU

12. Gonzaga

13. UCLA

14. Washington

15. Xavier

16. Purdue

 

8 Considerations

1. Texas

2. Utah

3. Tennessee

4. Byu

5. Cal

6. Creighton

7. Utah State

8. Michigan

 

is what I pm'd Bukie but now I kinda want to remove Creighton after there aweful loss and put in someone like Wisconsin.

 

I'm sure you just accidentally glossed over them, but how do you not have Louisville as a lock?

 

His rep is Louisville, so he's not allowed to vote for them.

 

Ya i was not allowed to pick Louisville otherwise obviously they would have been in my top 5 bumping memphis down to 6.

 

As to why I put LSU up there to be honest the SEC is the only major conference I don't really pay attention too. I think the only SEC team I seen play this year is Kentucky and that was when they play Louisville. Being a major conference I guess I kinda felt obligated to give them 1 "lock" team and year LSU won the SEC I think, that is why I went with them.

[bukie]

Gonzaga, Siena, VCU and Chattanooga all win auto bids today, pulling them out of the at-large pool.

[bukie]

Committee reps still have a half hour to submit their top 16 locks and top 8 considerations before I tally up the totals and announce the results.

[CubbieBum]

Top locks:

 

1 North Carolina

2 Pittsburgh

3 Oklahoma

4 UCONN

5 Michigan State

6 Louisville

7 Wake Forest

8 Duke

9 Memphis

10 Villanova

11 Kansas

12 Washington

13 Missouri

14 Gonzaga

15 UCLA

16 Utah

 

 

8 Considerations:

 

1 Marquette

2 Xavier

3 Clemson

4 Butler

5 Syracuse

6 LSU

7 BYU

8 Arizona State

 

Not sure if I should still include auto bids. If not then Illinois and Florida State are my next two.

[bukie]

OK, no other submissions, so here are the results:

 

There is a clear top 8:

 

1. Pittsburgh

2. North Carolina

3. Connecticut

4. Oklahoma

5. Michigan State

6. Louisville

7. Duke

8. Memphis

 

Those 8 are now set in position for the time being, ignore them for future voting. If a situation arises that anyone thinks deserves special attention with teams already set in position, we can discuss it here in the thread (i.e. MSU wins the Big Ten tournament, Oklahoma loses in the semis, does MSU push up into the 4th 1 seed?)

 

From the other vote, there are 5 clear additions to the "in" list:

 

1. California

2. West Virginia

3. BYU

4. Texas

5. Utah

 

I'll summarize everything in the next post.

[CubbieBum]

OK, no other submissions, so here are the results:

 

There is a clear top 8:

 

1. Pittsburgh

2. North Carolina

3. Connecticut

4. Oklahoma

5. Michigan State

6. Louisville

7. Duke

8. Memphis

 

Those 8 are now set in position for the time being, ignore them for future voting. If a situation arises that anyone thinks deserves special attention with teams already set in position, we can discuss it here in the thread (i.e. MSU wins the Big Ten tournament, Oklahoma loses in the semis, does MSU push up into the 4th 1 seed?)

 

From the other vote, there are 5 clear additions to the "in" list:

 

1. California

2. West Virginia

3. BYU

4. Texas

5. Utah

 

I'll summarize everything in the next post.

 

 

I'm doubting my post was among those used since it was posted 2 minutes before yours and 4 minutes after the bell. Oh well.

[bukie]

Full summary:

 

Current "S-Curve" (8):

1. Pittsburgh

2. North Carolina

3. Connecticut

4. Oklahoma

5. Michigan State

6. Louisville

7. Duke

8. Memphis

 

Other teams in (30): Arizona State, Butler, BYU, California, Chattanooga (SoCon), Clemson, Cornell (Ivy), ETSU (ASun), Florida State, Gonzaga (WCC), Illinois, Kansas, LSU, Marquette, Missouri, Morehead State (OVC), Northern Iowa (MVC), Purdue, Radford (BSouth), Siena (MAAC), Syracuse, Texas, UCLA, Utah, VCU (CAA), Villanova, Wake Forest, Washington, West Virginia, Xavier

 

Single-Bid Conferences (no at-large possibility) (15): America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Ivy, Mid-American, MEAC, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southland, Summit, Sun Belt, SWAC

 

Other teams in consideration for between 5 and 16 bids (Bubble) (32): Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah State, Virginia Tech, Washington State, Wisconsin

 

Next task: Same as today's task. Except with the next 16 (i.e. after Pitt-Memphis) teams "in", and 8 among the teams in consideration (bubble). Due end of day Tuesday.

 

Feel free to discuss any bubble teams you think should just come off the board to clean it up.

Edited March 10, 2009 by bukie

[bukie]

OK, no other submissions, so here are the results:

 

There is a clear top 8:

 

1. Pittsburgh

2. North Carolina

3. Connecticut

4. Oklahoma

5. Michigan State

6. Louisville

7. Duke

8. Memphis

 

Those 8 are now set in position for the time being, ignore them for future voting. If a situation arises that anyone thinks deserves special attention with teams already set in position, we can discuss it here in the thread (i.e. MSU wins the Big Ten tournament, Oklahoma loses in the semis, does MSU push up into the 4th 1 seed?)

 

From the other vote, there are 5 clear additions to the "in" list:

 

1. California

2. West Virginia

3. BYU

4. Texas

5. Utah

 

I'll summarize everything in the next post.

 

 

I'm doubting my post was among those used since it was posted 2 minutes before yours and 4 minutes after the bell. Oh well.

I factored it in anyway and it didn't affect the results. :)

[Prior4CyYoung]

so we have to create another 16 team list not including the 8 teams that were selected as locks and the teams that won there conference tournaments. Same goes for the bubble teams choose 8 not including the 5 that were chosen.

[bukie]

so we have to create another 16 team list not including the 8 teams that were selected as locks and the teams that won there conference tournaments. Same goes for the bubble teams choose 8 not including the 5 that were chosen.

 

Top 16 from here:

Other teams in (30): Arizona State, Butler, BYU, California, Chattanooga (SoCon), Clemson, Cornell (Ivy), ETSU (ASun), Florida State, Gonzaga (WCC), Illinois, Kansas, LSU, Marquette, Missouri, Morehead State (OVC), Northern Iowa (MVC), Purdue, Radford (BSouth), Siena (MAAC), Syracuse, Texas, UCLA, Utah, VCU (CAA), Villanova, Wake Forest, Washington, West Virginia, Xavier

 

Top 8 from here:

(Bubble) (32): Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah State, Virginia Tech, Washington State, Wisconsin

[Prior4CyYoung]

These due in at a certain time or just before selection sunday.

[CubbieBum]

These due in at a certain time or just before selection sunday.

 

Said before the end of Tuesday so get on it ...

[CubInOK]

Other teams in consideration for between 5 and 16 bids (Bubble) (32): Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah State, Virginia Tech, Washington State, Wisconsin

 

Feel free to discuss any bubble teams you think should just come off the board to clean it up.

The teams in bold shouldn't have a shot. Agreed?

[Prior4CyYoung]

These due in at a certain time or just before selection sunday.

 

Said before the end of Tuesday so get on it ...

 

Thank you missed that the first time I read it. Guess ill do it now heh.

[Prior4CyYoung]

Other teams in consideration for between 5 and 16 bids (Bubble) (32): Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah State, Virginia Tech, Washington State, Wisconsin

 

Feel free to discuss any bubble teams you think should just come off the board to clean it up.

The teams in bold shouldn't have a shot. Agreed?

 

Agreed although I think you could add Georgetown to that list too.

[CubbieBum]

Other teams in consideration for between 5 and 16 bids (Bubble) (32): Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, Cincinnati, Creighton, Davidson, Dayton, Florida, Georgetown, Green Bay, Houston, Illinois State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Niagara, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Providence, Rhode Island, San Diego State, South Carolina, St. Mary's, Temple, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulsa, UAB, UNLV, USC, Utah State, Virginia Tech, Washington State, Wisconsin

 

Feel free to discuss any bubble teams you think should just come off the board to clean it up.

The teams in bold shouldn't have a shot. Agreed?

 

Agreed although I think you could add Georgetown to that list too.

 

Hey they are over .500 ...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

All these teams just meld together after the first couple.

 

1. Kansas

2. Wake Forest

3. Washington

4. Villanova

5. UCLA

6. Xavier

7. Florida St.

8. Clemson

9. Illinois

10. Arizona St.

11. Syracuse

12. Gonzaga

13. BYU

14. Texas

15. Purdue

16. West Virginia

 

1. Texas A&M

2. Tennessee

3. Oklahoma St.

4. Ohio St.

5. Wisconsin

6. Michigan

7. New Mexico

8 .Minnesota

[Prior4CyYoung]

All these teams just meld together after the first couple.

 

1. Kansas

2. Wake Forest

3. Washington

4. Villanova

5. UCLA

6. Xavier

7. Florida St.

8. Clemson

9. Illinois

10. Arizona St.

11. Syracuse

12. Gonzaga

13. BYU

14. Texas

15. Purdue

16. West Virginia

 

1. Texas A&M

2. Tennessee

3. Oklahoma St.

4. Ohio St.

5. Wisconsin

6. Michigan

7. New Mexico

8 .Minnesota

 

I think you need to remove Gonzaga since they won there conference tournament.