Re: Dunn wants to be a Cub?

[TruffleShuffle]

The more I think about it the more I am liking Dunn over Bradley/Abreu, I think we have enough versatility that he could be pulled for defensive replacements late in games when we have a lead. Plus he is the youngest and the most likely to stay healthy and to have continued production over the course of a contract when compared to Bradley/Abreu. My opinion will likely change the first time he doesn't get to a flyball that a 80 year old woman with glaucoma, a hunchback, and a prosthetic leg could get to.

 

abreu is a downright bad option IMO. his power and speed have been disappearing and he's a bad fielder at this point in his career. i don't even know that you'd get better than average production out of him, overall, and you'd have to give him a decent sized contract.

 

if bradley can stay healthy, even 3/4 of the time, i'd definitely go with him. i think he'll be cheaper than dunn and be more productive (because he can be an average defender, whereas dunn is terrible in the field). i think the biggest positive for dunn is that he has always raked in wrigley.

[Cubswin11]

The more I think about it the more I am liking Dunn over Bradley/Abreu, I think we have enough versatility that he could be pulled for defensive replacements late in games when we have a lead. Plus he is the youngest and the most likely to stay healthy and to have continued production over the course of a contract when compared to Bradley/Abreu. My opinion will likely change the first time he doesn't get to a flyball that a 80 year old woman with glaucoma, a hunchback, and a prosthetic leg could get to.

 

abreu is a downright bad option IMO. his power and speed have been disappearing and he's a bad fielder at this point in his career. i don't even know that you'd get better than average production out of him, overall, and you'd have to give him a decent sized contract.

 

if bradley can stay healthy, even 3/4 of the time, i'd definitely go with him. i think he'll be cheaper than dunn and be more productive (because he can be an average defender, whereas dunn is terrible in the field). i think the biggest positive for dunn is that he has always raked in wrigley.

That's pretty much my feeling, Abreu outside of Yankee stadium has been mediocre at best and he is only getting older, the days of 100 BB and .850+ OPS' seem to be gone. If I knew Bradley could play 120-135 games I would be all for him, but obviously that is unlikely and knowing that he should get 8-10 mil. a year compared to Dunn at 11-14 I think I may lean towards Dunn if both are looking for the same amount of years, 3-5.

There really isn't a perfect guy for the Cubs to have in RF this offseason when you take in all the factors. Abreu is old and declining in most areas of the game and is going to cost $14-16 mil. a year, Bradley is a solid bat when healthy but he doesn't stay healthy and then he has the attitude issues (which may or may not have gotten better in some people's opinions), and then you have Dunn who can murder a ball and would likely hit 50 HR's annually playing half his games in Wrigley he is one of the most patient hitters in baseball and will draw over 100 BB's but he K's a lot (some people don't like it some people don't mind it) and he hits for a low average .230-.250 and he is probably the worst defender of the three.

[cubsfan5150]

When does Lee become a FA? Could we sign Dunn with the assumption that he replaces Lee after he's a FA? I know this has been discussed, but I'm too lazy to look for it.

[Cubswin11]

When does Lee become a FA? Could we sign Dunn with the assumption that he replaces Lee after he's a FA? I know this has been discussed, but I'm too lazy to look for it.

Lee is a FA after 2010, Dunn has told teams though that he isn't willing to sign to play 1B for them and that is a reason he is drawing little interest, maybe things will change in a year or two but I would assume even at 1B he would be well below average and would likely cost us just as many, if not more, runs playing 1B than RF/LF.

[Clem Fandango]

I kind of hope signing Bradley falls through now. Not having Dunn in our lineup knowing that we could have him there makes me a sad panda

[17 Seconds]

After listening to the whole interview, I'm not confident that the Cubs will add any of the big name free agents for RF. He hinted over and over again that the ownership situation was going to prevent any significant moves.

 

If that was true then they won't be after Bradley and others. They can add salary, just not long term salaries. In other words, they are going to be giving out contracts of 5 or more years

[Cubswin11]

After listening to the whole interview, I'm not confident that the Cubs will add any of the big name free agents for RF. He hinted over and over again that the ownership situation was going to prevent any significant moves.

 

If that was true then they won't be after Bradley and others. They can add salary, just not long term salaries. In other words, they are going to be giving out contracts of 5 or more years

There is a difference between bringing on a Peavy sized contract and signing Dunn/Bradley, Peavy would have forced whatever team traded for him to guarantee his option year making his contract 5@78 Dunn or Bradley aren't going to touch that they will be getting 3-4 year deals for $30-48 mil. at the max. One of them, if not both, might even sign for 2@25ish. That way in 2 years when the economy/market is better they can get bigger deals.

[The Voice of Reason]

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

[OleMissCub]

I want to be a Cub

[DiamondMind]

Dunn is literally near to, if not the bottom of the OF options I'd prefer to acquire. Seriously, no thanks. I'd rather have freakin' Hermida over Dunn.

[Outshined_One]

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

 

He can't be any worse than Glenallen Hill.

[rsmoler]

There is no ideal left handed rightfield free agent candidate out there for the Cubs right now. To that end, I really hope Hendry just stays pat and keeps all his money and trade chips for the trade deadline. Chances are we are going to be right in the middle of the division race on July 31 with the talent we have right now. If Fukudome, Pie or Gathright pan out, we'll be a lot better than that. If Hendry stays patient until the trade deadline, we can add any pieces that are missing at that point for us to make a big run in the playoffs.

 

Unless the Cubs can make a big upgrade, I don't see any reason to make a move right now.

[17 Seconds]

Dunn is literally near to, if not the bottom of the OF options I'd prefer to acquire. Seriously, no thanks. I'd rather have freakin' Hermida over Dunn.

 

? You act like Hermida wouldn't be a good acquisition

[Cubswin11]

There is no ideal left handed rightfield free agent candidate out there for the Cubs right now. To that end, I really hope Hendry just stays pat and keeps all his money and trade chips for the trade deadline. Chances are we are going to be right in the middle of the division race on July 31 with the talent we have right now. If Fukudome, Pie or Gathright pan out, we'll be a lot better than that. If Hendry stays patient until the trade deadline, we can add any pieces that are missing at that point for us to make a big run in the playoffs.

 

Unless the Cubs can make a big upgrade, I don't see any reason to make a move right now.

Looking at potential FA after next season, the list is not even as good as this offseason. Carl Crawford could be a FA, but he has an option. Other than him the only good/decent lefthanded bats are Ankiel, Huff, Blalock, Winn, the oft-injured Nick Johnson, and Chad Tracy. Not much there that I would even want Hendry to consider.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/2010-mlb-free-a.html

[rocket]

if adam dunn isn't the direction hendry wants to go for in search of a left-handed, power hitting outfielder, i can't imagine what alternative he has in mind that is better and available.

 

and for what it's worth, some people believe that dunn is worse at 1B defensively than he is in LF defensively.

[Cubswin11]

and for what it's worth, some people believe that dunn is worse at 1B defensively than he is in LF defensively.

I heard that there was a Reds fan who stared directly at Adam Dunn playing first base and he went blind. True Story.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Lukewarm on Dunn. It's as if God wanted to see what the worst possible player with a good OBP could be.

[17 Seconds]

Lukewarm on Dunn. It's as if God wanted to see what the worst possible player with a good OBP could be.

 

yeah it's not like he hits for a ton of power or anything

[haubrich91]

It'd be nice having one of our guys destroy balls to Sheffield Ave on a regular basis.

[Guest]

I would have to vote against Dunn especially if he wants a long-term deal. His defense will definitely hurt, especially in the playoffs, and he is not likely to age well. If the Cubs are going to get more left-handed, who loses their job?

[erik316wttn]

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

 

He can't be any worse than Glenallen Hill.

 

I can guarantee that Dunn won't hit any homers that land on the rooftops across the street.

[cbbryan]

Dunn may not field well in Wrigley, but he'd certainly hit well there. Playing 81 games a year in Wrigley he'd put up some pretty gaudy numbers, IMO.

[Clem Fandango]

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

 

He can't be any worse than Glenallen Hill.

 

I can guarantee that Dunn won't hit any homers that land on the rooftops across the street.

 

If Dunn were to play half his games at Wrigley each year, I'd wager money that he just might be the one person with the ability to do just that

[Cubswin11]

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

 

He can't be any worse than Glenallen Hill.

 

I can guarantee that Dunn won't hit any homers that land on the rooftops across the street.

If we sign Dunn for 3+ years I would almost guarantee that over the course of his time with the Cubs he puts one on a rooftop bleacher on Sheffield, or atleast off of one of the buildings across the street on the fly.

[mdwilla]

erik316wttn wrote:

Outshined_One wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Sign Dunn and bring back Dave Kingman and Keith Moreland to teach him how to play the OF in Wrigley.

 

 

He can't be any worse than Glenallen Hill.

 

 

I can guarantee that Dunn won't hit any homers that land on the rooftops across the street.

 

 

If Dunn were to play half his games at Wrigley each year, I'd wager money that he just might be the one person with the ability to do just that

Exactly. Dunn is going to break some windows throughout the year between BP and HRS. Dunn is only 29 . He is a free agent for the first time in his career and is reportedly getting in shape. 3 years is the perfect length for a 29 year old. 36 year old Raul Ibanez just got a three year deal. Getting him away from the trade rumors and the pit that is Cincy as a whole could do wonders . Dunn in our lineup/half his games at Wrigley could hit 60 .