Big Z

[stitchface]

–A crazy rumor making the rounds at the Bellagio in Las Vegas is that the Cubs would entertain the idea of possibly trading right-hander Carlos Zambrano in a blockbuster if, as expected, they acquire Padres ace Jake Peavy.

 

 

- - John Perotto at BP http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1121

[mdwilla]

i love it .

[Little Slide Rooter]

Hey, guess who would never waive his no trade clause, especially if this deal gets done?

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'd rather keep Z, trade for Peavy, and sign Bradley.

[mdwilla]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

[Rob]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

 

I doubt it, as Baseball Prospectus has plenty of traffic regardless. He's just not very good at reporting rumors.

[Tyrant]

Zambrano for Grady Sizemore.

[Guest]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

 

I doubt it, as Baseball Prospectus has plenty of traffic regardless. He's just not very good at reporting rumors.

 

How could he report it differently?

[Tyrant]

Nick Weglarz, too.

[Prior4CyYoung]

If we trade Cedeno + Mark Derosa who would back up the MI if Fontenot or Theriot got hurt or was ineffective?

[Rob]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

 

I doubt it, as Baseball Prospectus has plenty of traffic regardless. He's just not very good at reporting rumors.

 

How could he report it differently?

 

Responsibly... as in not posting the idiotic musings of a front office type from another organization with no real information.

[RynoRules]

That would be so awesome - this place would explode.

[Jehrico]

If we trade Cedeno + Mark Derosa who would back up the MI if Fontenot or Theriot got hurt or was ineffective?

Include him going to Philly with DeRo and get back Utley. =P~

 

Maybe throw in Theriot too and get Rollins.

 

Okay, I'll stop dreaming now...

[Guest]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

 

I doubt it, as Baseball Prospectus has plenty of traffic regardless. He's just not very good at reporting rumors.

 

How could he report it differently?

 

Responsibly... as in not posting the idiotic musings of a front office type from another organization with no real information.

 

That's ridiculous, he said a crazy rumor - kind of implies it likely has no merit doesn't it? I guess some people have fun with these rumors while others seem to be a bit too serious about it.

[Clem Fandango]

As much as I believe this rumor has 0% credibility, and as much as I like Zambrano as a Cub, I would have no qualms trading him to another team if it brought back a big impact bat

[jersey cubs fan]

I love this time of year, this guy is just driving up traffic to his site.

 

I doubt it, as Baseball Prospectus has plenty of traffic regardless. He's just not very good at reporting rumors.

 

How could he report it differently?

 

Responsibly... as in not posting the idiotic musings of a front office type from another organization with no real information.

 

We're talking about baseball rumors, not something important. If the guy says he's heard crazy rumors that Zambrano might be traded he's not exactly leaking national security information.

[kujay]

As much as I believe this rumor has 0% credibility, and as much as I like Zambrano as a Cub, I would have no qualms trading him to another team if it brought back a big impact bat

 

Agreed. I love the guy, but assuming we can't have everything, and assuming we get Peavy, I'd rather have the bat than Z.

[AZCub]

I can see Hendry at the blackjack tables at 4 am with a gin and tonic in one hand, a rack of lamb in the other, tossing in 4 times the minimum bet every hand, blathering out "Z? Yeahhhh sure, I'll deal anybody, I'm Jim effing Hendry."

[Cynosure]

Please be so... I can't even imagine what we could get for Z...

 

And it would be a lot... regardless of his temper issues.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Also, Cubs officials shot down the John Perrotto rumor that the Cubs might shop Carlos Zambrano after acquiring Peavy.

[hardcorecubfan]

As much as I believe this rumor has 0% credibility, and as much as I like Zambrano as a Cub, I would have no qualms trading him to another team if it brought back a big impact bat

 

Agreed. I love the guy, but assuming we can't have everything, and assuming we get Peavy, I'd rather have the bat than Z.

 

Agreed and I wouldn't want to lose "Z" bat

[haubrich91]

Zambrano for Grady Sizemore.

 

And Woody. :D

[AZCub]

Not to ruin the fun, but Z has a full NTC. He isn't going anywhere.

[Jehrico]

Not to ruin the fun, but Z has a full NTC. He isn't going anywhere.

Why do people still pretend like that means guys can't be traded? If we wanted to trade him, the receiving team would have to convince him to waive it, sure, and it would impact what we got back, but it happens quite a bit. Pretending like a guy absolutely won't be traded because of an NTC is simply ignoring history. It's a lot more common for guys with NTCs to waive them in exchange for something (more money, option picked up, etc) than it is for guys to stand fast and refuse to be traded to any other club out there. Look at Peavy...we're about to get him only BECAUSE he has a NTC. If he didn't have an NTC, we wouldn't be in the conversation.

[David]

Not to ruin the fun, but Z has a full NTC. He isn't going anywhere.

Why do people still pretend like that means guys can't be traded? If we wanted to trade him, the receiving team would have to convince him to waive it, sure, and it would impact what we got back, but it happens quite a bit. Pretending like a guy absolutely won't be traded because of an NTC is simply ignoring history. It's a lot more common for guys with NTCs to waive them in exchange for something (more money, option picked up, etc) than it is for guys to stand fast and refuse to be traded to any other club out there. Look at Peavy...we're about to get him only BECAUSE he has a NTC. If he didn't have an NTC, we wouldn't be in the conversation.

 

 

Which is exactly why it's pointless to discuss guys with NTCs in hypothetical trade scenarios (well, even more pointless than guys who don't have NTCs).