College Football - Week of 11/8

[dew1679666265]

Saban turned LSU into a machine. The best I can say for Les Miles is that he didn't screw up the recruiting after Saban left. I'm not crazy about retaining Crowton as OC either--he was awful as the Bears OC and pretty bad at BYU and Oregon as well.

 

He's like Larry Coker accept Coker seemed like a decent man and not an insufferable douche like Miles is.

 

The real test for Miles will be after this season. They're obviously down now, the question is can Miles turn them back into the juggernaut they were.

 

That'll really cement him as one of the top 10-12 coaches out there.

[SpongeWorthy]

but define elite. is he top five? probably not. is he one of the top dozen or so? probably.

 

guys id take over him (in no order) easily

 

pete carroll

jim tressell

nick saban

urban meyer

 

then you look at this list and you can make cases either way:

butch davis

mack brown

bob stoops

tommy tuberville

 

i cant really think of a tenth guy id take over him easily.

 

Leach, Peterson, Mendenhall, Kelly, Beamer, Richt, Spurrier, etc.

[dew1679666265]

but define elite. is he top five? probably not. is he one of the top dozen or so? probably.

 

guys id take over him (in no order) easily

 

pete carroll

jim tressell

nick saban

urban meyer

 

then you look at this list and you can make cases either way:

butch davis

mack brown

bob stoops

tommy tuberville

 

i cant really think of a tenth guy id take over him easily.

 

Leach, Peterson, Mendenhall, Kelly, Beamer, Richt, etc.

 

Richt maybe, Beamer perhaps. Leach close but not proven enough yet.

 

Peterson, Mendenhall and Kelly no.

[Mephistopheles]

but define elite. is he top five? probably not. is he one of the top dozen or so? probably.

 

guys id take over him (in no order) easily

 

pete carroll

jim tressell

nick saban

urban meyer

 

then you look at this list and you can make cases either way:

butch davis

mack brown

bob stoops

tommy tuberville

 

i cant really think of a tenth guy id take over him easily.

 

Leach, Peterson, Mendenhall, Kelly, Beamer, Richt, Spurrier, etc.

 

Leach? Hell no. Leach is a gimmick team. They're this years USF (ie not #2 but ranked #2). Chris Peterson at Boise State? What? BYUs Mendenhall? C'mon they need to play in a real league first. Kelly no. Beamer, eh.... I don't think so. Spurrier, ten years ago yes now not so much. Richt? Maybe.

[dew1679666265]

but define elite. is he top five? probably not. is he one of the top dozen or so? probably.

 

guys id take over him (in no order) easily

 

pete carroll

jim tressell

nick saban

urban meyer

 

then you look at this list and you can make cases either way:

butch davis

mack brown

bob stoops

tommy tuberville

 

i cant really think of a tenth guy id take over him easily.

 

Leach, Peterson, Mendenhall, Kelly, Beamer, Richt, Spurrier, etc.

 

Leach? Hell no. Leach is a gimmick team. They're this years USF (ie not #2 but ranked #2). Chris Peterson at Boise State? What? BYUs Mendenhall? C'mon they need to play in a real league first. Kelly no. Beamer, eh.... I don't think so. Spurrier, ten years ago yes now not so much. Richt? Maybe.

 

What do you think of Butch Davis in that first group?

[SpongeWorthy]

Les Miles, in his wildest dreams, could never do what Peterson and Mendenhall have done at Boise State or BYU. I'm a lot more confident that those coaches could replicate Miles' success at a program like LSU. They'll probably get their chance (although the circumstances won't be nearly as cushy as Miles' were where a superpower was already in place--more likely they'll have to take over a down program like Tennessee or Washington) eventually.

 

Les Miles couldn't turn Oklahoma State into anything more than a Big XII also-ran (even with the Boone Pickens lavishing money on the program).

[The Voice of Reason]

I guess an embarrasing loss to Western Michigan make the natives restless.

 

http://fireronzook.blogspot.com/

 

Saturday, November 08, 2008

Zook, Illini Screw the pooch. Again.

 

I want to welcome all of the new readers that are sure to visit this week. That feeling that you're feeling right now is what I suspect many Americans will be feeling after of a few years of Obamunist rule. But let's talk football. Ron Zook is simply not a good football coach. There is no doubt about it. He is what I have always called an "excitable meathead". He talks a big game but he simply doesn't have the intelligence to coach a football program above the High School level. What you are seeing this season is exactly what Zook is. Last year was the flukiest of flukes. By the way many of the key players from last season were seniors that were not recruited by the "master recruiter".

[manbearcub]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

[bcl412]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

Best sporting event I have ever attended.

 

GO HAWKS!!!

[TruffleShuffle]

Nittany Thugs lose! Yes! At least we won't have to see the Big Ten get destroyed in another national championship game.

I hate you

 

is smack an ohio st fan? that would explain a lot.

 

No, I actually went to Purdue. I just enjoy watching teams who recruit at all costs lose.

 

i'm glad you prefer your 3-7 team that doesn't recruit.

[manbearcub]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

Best sporting event I have ever attended.

 

GO HAWKS!!!

i was at the Cap One bowl so nothing will ever top that but this is near 2nd along with the Wisconsin game in 04.

[MSG T]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

Best sporting event I have ever attended.

 

GO HAWKS!!!

i was at the Cap One bowl so nothing will ever top that but this is near 2nd along with the Wisconsin game in 04.

 

I got a ticket to a game in 85 the morning of the game. Saw Houghtlin hit a 29 yarder to win it. Nothing will top that.

[bcl412]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

Best sporting event I have ever attended.

 

GO HAWKS!!!

i was at the Cap One bowl so nothing will ever top that but this is near 2nd along with the Wisconsin game in 04.

 

I got a ticket to a game in 85 the morning of the game. Saw Houghtlin hit a 29 yarder to win it. Nothing will top that.

 

My dad was at the game in 85 so we each got to see the two biggest kicks in Kinnick Stadium history.

[TruffleShuffle]

BTW, anyone still think Les Miles is an elite coach?

 

Crowton is a moron as well.

 

Yes. He's not Saban or Meyer, but he's one of the top coaches in the country. My god he's 45-7 or something at LSU. He's had a rough bump this season. Really the big screw up for them this season is lack of a good QB. The Perriloux situation really hurt them. C'mon they took a top five team to OT. theyre fine. they played well. they got outclassed by the best team in the country though, but right now florida would beat anyone like that.

 

This is the sort of "his track record is good!" thinking that led people to believe that Dusty Baker was a good manager.

 

I've watched a lot of LSU football and to even put this fraud in the class of Saban, Carroll, Meyer, etc. is just way off base..

 

putting pete carroll in the class of saban and meyer is just way off base.

[Smack]

Nittany Thugs lose! Yes! At least we won't have to see the Big Ten get destroyed in another national championship game.

I hate you

 

is smack an ohio st fan? that would explain a lot.

 

No, I actually went to Purdue. I just enjoy watching teams who recruit at all costs lose.

 

i'm glad you prefer your 3-7 team that doesn't recruit.

 

i'm glad you prefer your 20 players with 86 criminal charges between last season and this one.

 

Don't worry, we'll get you back in basketball. Unless, of course, Hummel and Moore are jailed in the mean time.

[TruffleShuffle]

Nittany Thugs lose! Yes! At least we won't have to see the Big Ten get destroyed in another national championship game.

I hate you

 

is smack an ohio st fan? that would explain a lot.

 

No, I actually went to Purdue. I just enjoy watching teams who recruit at all costs lose.

 

i'm glad you prefer your 3-7 team that doesn't recruit.

 

i'm glad you prefer your 20 players with 86 criminal charges between last season and this one.

 

good to see you are keeping track. in the meantime best of luck in your end-of-season classic with indiana.

[TruffleShuffle]

uh oh tebow already has two touchdowns on the ground and through the air... consider meph's shorts thoroughly soiled.

[bcl412]

I know it's the best conference in the country but I honestly get board watching the Big 12 and its arena football type scores.

[Flames24Rulz]

uh oh tebow already has two touchdowns on the ground and through the air... consider meph's shorts thoroughly soiled.

 

I can't wait for the "Demps is fass" post.

[dew1679666265]

:shock: USC and Cal are tied at 3 in the middle of the second.

 

I'm sure it won't last, but that would be a good upset.

[Mephistopheles]

but define elite. is he top five? probably not. is he one of the top dozen or so? probably.

 

guys id take over him (in no order) easily

 

pete carroll

jim tressell

nick saban

urban meyer

 

then you look at this list and you can make cases either way:

butch davis

mack brown

bob stoops

tommy tuberville

it

i cant really think of a tenth guy id take over him easily.

 

Leach, Peterson, Mendenhall, Kelly, Beamer, Richt, Spurrier, etc.

 

Leach? Hell no. Leach is a gimmick team. They're this years USF (ie not #2 but ranked #2). Chris Peterson at Boise State? What? BYUs Mendenhall? C'mon they need to play in a real league first. Kelly no. Beamer, eh.... I don't think so. Spurrier, ten years ago yes now not so much. Richt? Maybe.

 

What do you think of Butch Davis in that first group?

 

i dunno. you can make a case for any of the guys in the second group over les

[TruffleShuffle]

I'M A MAN, I'M 40.

[The Voice of Reason]

:shock: USC and Cal are tied at 3 in the middle of the second.

 

I'm sure it won't last, but that would be a good upset.

 

Trojans up 10 - 3 and outgaining them by a 3 - 1 margin. It's only a matter of time before the onslaught begins.

[TruffleShuffle]

much like 17-10 demolition of arizona a couple of weeks ago.

[B]

I know it's the best conference in the country but I honestly get board watching the Big 12 and its arena football type scores.

Would you rather watch Miss St./Auburn battle it out to the tune of 2-3.