Bruce on WSCR - Cubs may let Wood go and close with Marmol

[erik316wttn]

Don't get Cheap with us Cubs that 97 win season means nothing after the no show in the playoffs.

 

This.

[5412]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

[C.C.]

Good Morning to you to!

 

I think they'll work out a deal with Wood. I don't see him leaving.

[wade]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

[KingCubsFan]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

[soapy]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

 

"Wade" = Wade Boggs.

[Clem Fandango]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

 

"Wade" = Wade Boggs.

 

Or it could be Wade Miller, so the answer could very well be "Not many"

[KingCubsFan]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

[jersey cubs fan]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

 

So you disagree with both 5412 and Wade?

[KingCubsFan]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

 

So you disagree with both 5412 and Wade?

I don't disagree that Wood is a leader of the team. Numerous players have said as much. I do disagree with any definitive statements regarding how much of an impact his leadership/any player's leadership will have on how a team performs if you've never been in that environment before. We just don't know.

[FergieJ31]

Tiresome, splitting hairs with semantics argument coming in 5..4..3..

[ConstableRabbit]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

 

So you disagree with both 5412 and Wade?

I don't disagree that Wood is a leader of the team. Numerous players have said as much. I do disagree with any definitive statements regarding how much of an impact his leadership/any player's leadership will have on how a team performs if you've never been in that environment before. We just don't know.

Exactly. Nothing is definitive.

 

That being said, GMs would be best served to spend their money on factors that ARE defined, like on-the-field performance, rather than factors that may or may not make a team better.

[jersey cubs fan]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

 

So you disagree with both 5412 and Wade?

I don't disagree that Wood is a leader of the team. Numerous players have said as much. I do disagree with any definitive statements regarding how much of an impact his leadership/any player's leadership will have on how a team performs if you've never been in that environment before. We just don't know.

 

Well, one guy said "devestating effect" while the other said "I think you might be overstating".

[KingCubsFan]

[

Well, one guy said "devestating effect" while the other said "I think you might be overstating".

Both of which indicated some sort of knowledge on the subject, which I disagree with. Lord, whoever talked about the semantics arguing starting was right.

Exactly. Nothing is definitive.

 

That being said, GMs would be best served to spend their money on factors that ARE defined, like on-the-field performance, rather than factors that may or may not make a team better.

I also agree with this.

[wade]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

I'm assuming you disagree with him and therefore I ask you what teams you played for

I've never played in the major leagues. That's why I find it so difficult to judge whether a player's leadership/personality off the field has little to no effect on team performance.

 

To be clear, I argued that a departure by Wood (or any player) may not be devastating, not that it would be non-existant.

Edited October 25, 2008 by wade

[wade]

Tiresome, splitting hairs with semantics argument coming in 5..4..3..

 

Tiresome rebuttal questioning a NSBB poster's major league experience and its apparant requirement when arguing against such an absolute statement about the unknown in -5, -6, -7...

[Mephistopheles]

im a ten year vet, biteme

[wade]

Oh, and I think I'm ready to argue against the notion that Wood is the clear leader of the team, as well. How does he rally the troops during a game? Stroll down from the dugout?

 

I haven't looked real hard, so I may be wrong, but I don't remember hearing much about Wood being a leader in what I have read about the Cubs. It's just that he's been there the longest. Sometimes you hear it about Lee-is he not the 'quiet leader' anymore? I did find an article where Rich Hill said Jon Lieber could be a clubhouse leader back in January. Maybe they should get Lieber back for '09!

 

Look, Manny Ramirez was labled a clubhouse cancer for the Red Sox, and then weeks ago was being hailed as the clubhouse presence the Dodgers needed and the reason they could make the playoffs. This whole leader stuff SEEMS pretty tenuous.

 

I haven't played for any MLB teams (I'll cheerfully accept an invite, though), and I will never say a player leaving will have zero affect on a team because of his off the field leadership/ palling around/ rallying ability. I will also never say it could destroy said team either. And I don't think you have to play on an MLB team to have that opinion. And, I don't remember a bunch of Cubs saying Wood's that leader either.

[wade]

im a ten year vet, biteme

 

Who is your clubhouse leader, and how much of an effect would his departure have on your squad? If he leaves, will you and your mates just pack it in for '09? Or, will you step up and be that guy?

[imb]

Good Morning,

 

I was basing my remarks on what Hendry said at the convention. If the Cubs want Wood back (which I believe they do) and Woody wants to come back (which I believe he does) they will work together to come up with something fair for both sides on the deal.

 

Losing Wood would have a devastating effect in the clubhouse. I suspect he is a very quiet leader and has an impact on a lot of the players. It would be in the best interest of both sides to work it out.

 

I think you may be overstating Wood's (or any player's) affect off the baseball field on the team's performance.

What teams did you play for in the majors?

 

"Wade" = Wade Boggs.

 

Or it could be Wade Miller, so the answer could very well be "Not many"

 

actually, it would be "too many"

[Butterscup1679666578]

Oh, and I think I'm ready to argue against the notion that Wood is the clear leader of the team, as well. How does he rally the troops during a game? Stroll down from the dugout?

 

I don't really recall ever seeing anyone being a "rah rah" type leader in baseball. That stuff is overrated in this sport.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I would rather pay to bring Wood back over Dempster, for the simple fact that Dempster is going to demand a lot more money. The Cubs could pay Wood, plus another solid starting pitcher's salary (whether he is acquired through free agency or a trade) for close to what they will have to offer Dempster. I don't think what we saw from Dempster this year was a complete fluke, but I don't expect him to have another season quite like this one.

[mcgoobs]

I'm in the minority of posters who would rather see Dempster back over Wood. As hard as it would be to see Wood in another uniform, the Cubs payroll right now can't afford overpaying a reliever who has only pitched one "full" season as a reliever in the past three. Dempster, although unproven as a consistent year-to-year starter, was the Cubs best starter last year and didn't show any signs of fatigue in the later months of the season.

 

One would hope that Dempster would agree to a 2-3 year deal that gives the Cubs a hometown discount for taking the chance on moving him into the rotation, hopefully something in the $10-12MM range?

[SweetZombieJesus]

I'm in the minority of posters who would rather see Dempster back over Wood. As hard as it would be to see Wood in another uniform, the Cubs payroll right now can't afford overpaying a reliever who has only pitched one "full" season as a reliever in the past three. Dempster, although unproven as a consistent year-to-year starter, was the Cubs best starter last year and didn't show any signs of fatigue in the later months of the season.

 

One would hope that Dempster would agree to a 2-3 year deal that gives the Cubs a hometown discount for taking the chance on moving him into the rotation, hopefully something in the $10-12MM range?

 

The question with Dempster is he Jamie Moyer or is he Kent Bottenfield/Mike Bielecki.