College Football - Week of 10/18

[dew1679666265]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

should or will? If one of the reasons for no playoff is to preserve the sanctity of the regular season, then you have to take the undefeated team(s), right?

 

If Penn State wins out, they should be in. If Penn State has one-loss, they should not get picked over a 1-loss Florida and 1-loss Texas team (if they lose)

 

I tend to think Penn State would go if unbeaten (and it could definitely be justified), but it's also justifiable that Florida would be more deserving - given that they might have three better wins than Penn State would.

 

One of the two teams would feel screwed, which is the reason for the desire for a playoff system.

[Derwood]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

should or will? If one of the reasons for no playoff is to preserve the sanctity of the regular season, then you have to take the undefeated team(s), right?

 

If Penn State wins out, they should be in. If Penn State has one-loss, they should not get picked over a 1-loss Florida and 1-loss Texas team (if they lose)

 

I tend to think Penn State would go if unbeaten (and it could definitely be justified), but it's also justifiable that Florida would be more deserving - given that they might have three better wins than Penn State would.

 

One of the two teams would feel screwed, which is the reason for the desire for a playoff system.

 

the only people who desire the playoff system are the fans, media, and maybe 1/2 the coaches. The universities and NCAA want nothing to do with it.

[ELCABALLO45]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

should or will? If one of the reasons for no playoff is to preserve the sanctity of the regular season, then you have to take the undefeated team(s), right?

 

If Penn State wins out, they should be in. If Penn State has one-loss, they should not get picked over a 1-loss Florida and 1-loss Texas team (if they lose)

 

I tend to think Penn State would go if unbeaten (and it could definitely be justified), but it's also justifiable that Florida would be more deserving - given that they might have three better wins than Penn State would.

 

One of the two teams would feel screwed, which is the reason for the desire for a playoff system.

 

the only people who desire the playoff system are the fans, media, and maybe 1/2 the coaches. The universities and NCAA want nothing to do with it.

 

Not having a playoff system to end a season is one of the dumbest things in sports.

[shnsajax]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

Oh I do too. Every year though I do hope for BCS disaster, though that could backfire on me this year.

 

I do however think its very possible that one of either Bama or Florida will finish with only 1 loss. Just like I think its very possible that out of Texas, OU, Mizzou, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State one of those teams could finish with only 1 loss. OU could finish with 1 loss and not make the Big 12 title game.

[Derwood]

Tradition + money = No Playoff

[dew1679666265]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

should or will? If one of the reasons for no playoff is to preserve the sanctity of the regular season, then you have to take the undefeated team(s), right?

 

If Penn State wins out, they should be in. If Penn State has one-loss, they should not get picked over a 1-loss Florida and 1-loss Texas team (if they lose)

 

I tend to think Penn State would go if unbeaten (and it could definitely be justified), but it's also justifiable that Florida would be more deserving - given that they might have three better wins than Penn State would.

 

One of the two teams would feel screwed, which is the reason for the desire for a playoff system.

 

the only people who desire the playoff system are the fans, media, and maybe 1/2 the coaches. The universities and NCAA want nothing to do with it.

 

The NCAA and universities want nothing to do with it because the current system is raking in the cash - no other reason.

 

And there is a very slowly growing number of university presidents and ADs who want it. Last year (or the year before) the UGA president sent a letter to NCAA bigwigs attempting to get a playoff instituted.

[ELCABALLO45]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

[Derwood]

the drop in $$ for the universities is pretty significant if a playoff is instituted

[ELCABALLO45]

If Penn St. wins out and you don't make the NC game are you going to be pissed?

[dew1679666265]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

Oh I do too. Every year though I do hope for BCS disaster, though that could backfire on me this year.

 

I do however think its very possible that one of either Bama or Florida will finish with only 1 loss. Just like I think its very possible that out of Texas, OU, Mizzou, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State one of those teams could finish with only 1 loss. OU could finish with 1 loss and not make the Big 12 title game.

 

I don't think chaos is enough to force a playoff. Especially when it happens no more than once every five years tops (the last being Auburn getting mercilessly screwed in 04 so that OU could get demolished).

 

I do hope for BCS chaos, though. Just in case.

[Derwood]

If Penn St. wins out and you don't make the NC game are you going to be pissed?

 

yes, if only because it would be the 6th or 7th time Penn State will have gone undefeated in their history (with only 2 NC's to show for it)

[dew1679666265]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

[dew1679666265]

the drop in $$ for the universities is pretty significant if a playoff is instituted

 

You sure the money dropoff would be significant? I tend to question that it would be huge, but have no numbers to back it up. Do you?

[Derwood]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

using the bowls as a playoff wouldn't change the financial situation

[ELCABALLO45]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

using the bowls as a playoff wouldn't change the financial situation

 

A playoff + a championship game would get alot of money.

[dew1679666265]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

using the bowls as a playoff wouldn't change the financial situation

 

Again, are you sure about the money dropoff? I doubt that it would be huge myself.

[Derwood]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

using the bowls as a playoff wouldn't change the financial situation

 

Again, are you sure about the money dropoff? I doubt that it would be huge myself.

 

I believe that if the NCAA sanctioned a playoff, that the money would work the same as the NCAA basketball tournament. In other words, instead of the individual schools getting multi-million dollar paydays, all money from the playoffs would be equally distributed amongst EVERY NCAA school.

[shnsajax]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

You can still have all of the bowls as normal. Rotate the 4 majors as serving as sort of a national semi final with a +1 game coming from those two semifinals. Put all of the major bowls back on January 1st where they belong with the National Championship coming on that following Sunday/Monday/Tuesday. However it works to give them 7-10 days off.

 

I don't want a big playoff, I just want 4 teams and that is it.

[ELCABALLO45]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

You can still have all of the bowls as normal. Rotate the 4 majors as serving as sort of a national semi final with a +1 game coming from those two semifinals. Put all of the major bowls back on January 1st where they belong with the National Championship coming on that following Sunday/Monday/Tuesday. However it works to give them 7-10 days off.

 

I don't want a big playoff, I just want 4 teams and that is it.

 

I would want a 8 team. So you can get the big schools like USC,Ohio St, Texas blah blah blah. But also if there is a sneaky team like BYU (was) this year you could throw them in there and if you have a decent team from the ACC so they don't bitch they could be in it as well.

[TruffleShuffle]

If Penn St. wins out and you don't make the NC game are you going to be pissed?

 

if penn st. goes undefeated but alabama and a big xii school also go undefeated, i wouldn't be pissed about penn st. not making the championship game. they play in stronger conferences. it's similar to if we hadn't given up the td with time expired against michigan in 2005; texas and usc were undefeated and were better teams than us. the system sucks, but given the system that's in place, you want the best undefeated teams from the best conferences to play for the championship. however, if penn st wins out and florida goes to the championship game ahead of them, i'll be irate. it's not like florida will have a loss like ou's loss at texas on their resume, where you can say "well they just played a team that's tougher than any team psu played." they lost to friggin ole miss at home; penn st has plenty of games that are tougher than that and if they go undefeated, that'll mean they didn't crap themselves against an average team.

[bcl412]

I never understood why the FBS couldn't do a playoff similar to the FCS.

[Derwood]

yep, had PSU gone undefeated in 2005, they probably would ahve been shut out of the NC game

[SouthSideRyan]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. No guarantee Florida, Texas OR Penn State get though without a loss (or two)

 

This is extremely true and I really doubt any of the three make it through without at least one more loss each.

 

The original question, though, was IF all three did win out, who should go to the title game.

 

should or will? If one of the reasons for no playoff is to preserve the sanctity of the regular season, then you have to take the undefeated team(s), right?

 

If Penn State wins out, they should be in. If Penn State has one-loss, they should not get picked over a 1-loss Florida and 1-loss Texas team (if they lose)

 

I tend to think Penn State would go if unbeaten (and it could definitely be justified), but it's also justifiable that Florida would be more deserving - given that they might have three better wins than Penn State would.

 

But they lost a bad Ole Miss team! You can't just overlook their terrible loss.

[ELCABALLO45]

If Penn St. wins out and you don't make the NC game are you going to be pissed?

 

if penn st. goes undefeated but alabama and a big xii school also go undefeated, i wouldn't be pissed about penn st. not making the championship game. they play in stronger conferences. it's similar to if we hadn't given up the td with time expired against michigan in 2005; texas and usc were undefeated and were better teams than us. the system sucks, but given the system that's in place, you want the best undefeated teams from the best conferences to play for the championship. however, if penn st wins out and florida goes to the championship game ahead of them, i'll be irate. it's not like florida will have a loss like ou's loss at texas on their resume, where you can say "well they just played a team that's tougher than any team psu played." they lost to friggin ole miss at home; penn st has plenty of games that are tougher than that and if they go undefeated, that'll mean they didn't crap themselves against an average team.

 

If Florida wins out, they would of beat LSU (already), at Georgia, at Vandy, and who ever they play in the SEC championship game.

[dew1679666265]

They could still have bowls with a playoff system.

 

Agreed. If they tried to be creative, it could work.

 

using the bowls as a playoff wouldn't change the financial situation

 

Again, are you sure about the money dropoff? I doubt that it would be huge myself.

 

I believe that if the NCAA sanctioned a playoff, that the money would work the same as the NCAA basketball tournament. In other words, instead of the individual schools getting multi-million dollar paydays, all money from the playoffs would be equally distributed amongst EVERY NCAA school.

 

Would it have to be set up that way? It may be the only way to get enough support to push it through, but the idea itself seems a bit silly to me.

 

I don't expect a playoff system to happen, but purely for the on-field issues, it'd be a huge improvement over these ridiculous polls.