Pirates shuffle rotation for us

[Jehrico]

Gorzelsucky was recalled from AAA and inserted into the rotation today, getting the start instead of Karstens. Karstens is being pushed back to Monday to throw the opener against us.

 

Anyone have an inside scoop on why they decided to throw the inferior pitcher today against the crew and are bumping Karstens back to face us (not that he's any good either, but he did have a good start against us last time...)?

[CubColtPacer]

They're trying to limit the innings of Karstens because he pitched so few last year. So they are giving him extra days of rest when they can. This is the start of something the Pirates are going to be doing with a few of their starters the rest of the year. When September 1st comes around, they'll be giving 7-8 different pitchers starts from time to time.

[UMFan83]

I'm not looking forward to facing Karstens on Monday.

[Vanilla Ice]

really?

 

gorzelsucky?

 

weak

[Jehrico]

I'm not looking forward to facing Karstens on Monday.

I was a little irked when I saw they were throwing him against us and Gorz against Milwaukee. The first thought that came to mind was in '03 or '04 when some of the Cards players were saying they were rooting for the Stros to make the playoffs over us.

 

 

CCP, thanks for the info, that's some good info there. I wonder how it's going to affect their use of their pen playing it that way.

[Sammy Sofa]

The first thought that came to mind was in '03 or '04 when some of the Cards players were saying they were rooting for the Stros to make the playoffs over us.

 

I really doubt the Pirates are sitting around plotting to sabotage the Cubs. The Cardinals and Cubs have such a rivalry, fine, maybe something between them in such a situation, but such a thing doesn't seem too likely here.

[UMFan83]

Also, what a horrible idea it was for the Pirates to bring back the Gorz and throw him into the fire against a team that mashes lefties with authority.

[nolanwood]

We shouldn't have a problem with Karstens on Monday. When we met up last he benefited greatly from our cold bats.

[Jehrico]

The first thought that came to mind was in '03 or '04 when some of the Cards players were saying they were rooting for the Stros to make the playoffs over us.

 

I really doubt the Pirates are sitting around plotting to sabotage the Cubs. The Cardinals and Cubs have such a rivalry, fine, maybe something between them in such a situation, but such a thing doesn't seem too likely here.

I don't think they're doing that either. But that was still the first thought that came to my mind...

[CubColtPacer]

I'm not looking forward to facing Karstens on Monday.

I was a little irked when I saw they were throwing him against us and Gorz against Milwaukee. The first thought that came to mind was in '03 or '04 when some of the Cards players were saying they were rooting for the Stros to make the playoffs over us.

 

 

CCP, thanks for the info, that's some good info there. I wonder how it's going to affect their use of their pen playing it that way.

 

I guess I don't quite understand your meaning there. Usually a team would have a problem going to 7 starters because it would leave them with too few bullpen guys. In this case though, it will be September and Pittsburgh is allowed to have their full 40 man roster up. So even though they have 7-8 starters, they'll still have their full complement of relievers, and will use them much the same as they usually do.

[CubmanPi]

really?

 

gorzelsucky?

 

weak

You don't have any evidence... Han-Stupid destroyed it all!

 

http://www.felio.org/images/mugatu.jpg

[erik316wttn]

Also, what a horrible idea it was for the Pirates to bring back the Gorz and throw him into the fire against a team that mashes lefties with authority.

 

Never thought I'd hear that sentence about the Cubs, especially after the last few years.

[CubColtPacer]

Also, what a horrible idea it was for the Pirates to bring back the Gorz and throw him into the fire against a team that mashes lefties with authority.

 

Never thought I'd hear that sentence about the Cubs, especially after the last few years.

 

He was talking about the Brewers (Gorzelanny threw tonight against Milwaukee) but it sure is nice to see the Cubs mashing against left-handers.

 

But that hasn't been highly unusual though. In the last 6 years, the Cubs have been better against left-handers 3 years (2003, 2005, 2008) and better against right-handers the other 3 years (2004, 2006, 2007). They were the best team in the NL against left-handers in 2005 in OPS, and they are 2nd best this year.

[erik316wttn]

Also, what a horrible idea it was for the Pirates to bring back the Gorz and throw him into the fire against a team that mashes lefties with authority.

 

Never thought I'd hear that sentence about the Cubs, especially after the last few years.

 

He was talking about the Brewers (Gorzelanny threw tonight against Milwaukee) but it sure is nice to see the Cubs mashing against left-handers.

 

But that hasn't been highly unusual though. In the last 6 years, the Cubs have been better against left-handers 3 years (2003, 2005, 2008) and better against right-handers the other 3 years (2004, 2006, 2007). They were the best team in the NL against left-handers in 2005 in OPS, and they are 2nd best this year.

 

But last year they were historically bad against lefties. Glad to see that's changed.

[kjfoster 1553]

This won't matter. We are sweeping the series either way.

[Jehrico]

This won't matter. We are sweeping the series either way.

We still have a tendancy to play down to our competition at times, let's hope they've put most of that behind them.

[inari]

This won't matter. We are sweeping the series either way.

We still have a tendancy to play down to our competition at times, let's hope they've put most of that behind them.

 

Not more than any other of the elite teams in baseball.

[Jehrico]

This won't matter. We are sweeping the series either way.

We still have a tendancy to play down to our competition at times, let's hope they've put most of that behind them.

 

Not more than any other of the elite teams in baseball.

I don't care about the other good teams out there. I don't want to see our guys get shut down again by John freaking Karstens or anyone like that.

[Schwarber Fan]

This won't matter. We are sweeping the series either way.

We still have a tendancy to play down to our competition at times, let's hope they've put most of that behind them.

 

Not more than any other of the elite teams in baseball.

I don't care about the other good teams out there. I don't want to see our guys get shut down again by John freaking Karstens or anyone like that.

 

I mean yea, some of us don't even know his first name!! ;)

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/karstje01.shtml

[SouthSideRyan]

Gorzelsucky was recalled from AAA and inserted into the rotation today, getting the start instead of Karstens. Karstens is being pushed back to Monday to throw the opener against us.

 

Anyone have an inside scoop on why they decided to throw the inferior pitcher today against the crew and are bumping Karstens back to face us (not that he's any good either, but he did have a good start against us last time...)?

 

Because everyone's out to get us.

[Soul]

His last 2 starts haven't been all that great. That's probably why they wanted to give him some more rest.