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If MVP really means MVP, Soriano should win it.

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ConstableRabbit

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He's not one of the top 5 players in baseball. He's not one of the top 5 players in the NL. He's not one of the top 5 players in the NL Central.

yes, but it's arguable that he's one of the top 5 players on his team

Just ask Lou and DeRo

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David GOAT

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So, MVP is about numbers only? Yea, the time he missed we were an average team, with him, we roll.

 

Make an argument for why he's been more valuable than Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman, Chipper Jones, or Hanley Ramirez.

 

I should've just limited it to guys on good teams, because we know what his response to a couple of those names will be.

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everybody just say soriano's the mvp so this terrible thread can die. my goodness.

 

i agree with you but at the same time, i can't help myself.

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So, MVP is about numbers only? Yea, the time he missed we were an average team, with him, we roll.

 

Make an argument for why he's been more valuable than Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman, Chipper Jones, or Hanley Ramirez.

 

I should've just limited it to guys on good teams, because we know what his response to a couple of those names will be.

 

Chipper Jones should be the MVP, I'm pretty sure the team has been awful without him in the lineup.

David GOAT

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So, MVP is about numbers only? Yea, the time he missed we were an average team, with him, we roll.

 

Make an argument for why he's been more valuable than Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman, Chipper Jones, or Hanley Ramirez.

 

I should've just limited it to guys on good teams, because we know what his response to a couple of those names will be.

 

Chipper Jones should be the MVP, I'm pretty sure the team has been awful without him in the lineup.

 

 

touche

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ChiCubsfan0502

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

David GOAT

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

 

He's not even the most valuable player on the Cubs.

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

David GOAT

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Damn, that last post really felt like a "fine, I'm done arguing... you guys are idiots. I'm leaving."

 

I couldn't help myself. :oops:

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

 

No one is saying that you can't have that opinion. There are a lot of posters here that make unpopular arguments and don't get ripped to shreds. The difference is they can actually put forth an argument and address all counterarguments (I'm still waiting for a response to my first post in this thread).

David GOAT

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

of the division?

 

aw, hell.. not even...

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UMFan83

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

of the division?

 

aw, hell.. not even...

 

Of tonight's game.

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

 

He's not even the most valuable player on the Cubs.

 

Clearly. we were fine without him. We were 50-20 without him and the 26-28 with him.

 

Oh, let's reverse those.

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Ding Dong Johnson

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

of the division?

 

aw, hell.. not even...

well, at least you gave it some consideration. that's all I was asking for

David GOAT

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Damn, that last post really felt like a "fine, I'm done arguing... you guys are idiots. I'm leaving."

 

I couldn't help myself. :oops:

Nono, not yours, his.

 

Yea, but I opened it up for him to come back.

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time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

Reed Johnson has also played a mean LF. DeRosa's a bum out there, though. The Cubs are only 8-13 with him out there.

 

Also, when Lee hasn't played 1B, the Cubs are 1-4.

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Ding Dong Johnson

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time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

Reed Johnson has also played a mean LF. DeRosa's a bum out there, though. The Cubs are only 8-13 with him out there.

 

Also, when Lee hasn't played 1B, the Cubs are 1-4.

OH SNAP

David GOAT

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Oh no, people on a Cubs message board don't agree with me that Sori seriously should get consideration for the MVP, despite the fact the numbers show he should.

 

If you haven't seen what Soriano has meant to the team, well, not my problem.

 

Best player and most valauble are not the same.

time for a compromise: he should get consideration for left field MVP. are we all agreed?

 

of the division?

 

aw, hell.. not even...

well, at least you gave it some consideration. that's all I was asking for

 

 

that i did... i really did... i have nothing else better to do anyway.

UMFan83 GOAT

UMFan83

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DeRosa's a bum out there, though. The Cubs are only 8-13 with him out there.

 

That's because Soriano wasn't in there though not because of DeRosa

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