Kosukes All Star bid in jeopardy

[Little Slide Rooter]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080629&content_id=3032466&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

 

Im going to go ahead and say it: I want the NL to win the game, and Braun gives us the better chance than Fukudome. What I dont get is why Griffeys so high up there. I could understand Braun being in 3rd, but with Griffey ahead of him? I mean come on, did some huge group of fans wwho havnt watched baseball in 5 years decide to form some massive voting block?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Im going to go ahead and say it: I want the NL to win the game, and Braun gives us the better chance than Fukudome.

 

Incorrect.

[Mizzou]

Everyone needs to get busy voting for Fukudome!

[abuck1220]

i don't think fukudome getting two ab's to braun's one is going to make much of a difference.

[UMFan83]

I think Kosuke will still finish ahead.

[twothousandfive]

I'd prefer Fukudome spend three days away from the Japanese and US media. I hear Traverse City is nice, and not quite as far away as Kyoto. Someone should suggest a good sushi place in TC.

 

It's tough to figure out from just games played, but Lee, Fukudome and Soto are the guys who look to me to be most likely to need a rest. Lee has been through this before, and won't go to NY, so he's the safest bet of the bunch. If Soto and Fukudome end up in NY, I hope they each get at least two games off in July after the break (the schedule has none). It looks like three day games after night games, as well as a night game in Arizona followed by a night game in Florida. That might even be four useful days off for Soto.

[abuck1220]

guys, they play like three innings. you worry too much.

[BRASKYS SCOTCH]

I'd prefer Fukudome spend three days away from the Japanese and US media. I hear Traverse City is nice, and not quite as far away as Kyoto. Someone should suggest a good sushi place in TC.

 

It's tough to figure out from just games played, but Lee, Fukudome and Soto are the guys who look to me to be most likely to need a rest. Lee has been through this before, and won't go to NY, so he's the safest bet of the bunch. If Soto and Fukudome end up in NY, I hope they each get at least two games off in July after the break (the schedule has none). It looks like three day games after night games, as well as a night game in Arizona followed by a night game in Florida. That might even be four useful days off for Soto.

 

 

Traverse City - only if Kosuke likes the cherry wine ... will have to offer a solid recommendation of the Chateau Chantal up there.

[David]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

[BRASKYS SCOTCH]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

Isn't Mr. Wonderful from the Mets leading that vote?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

Isn't Mr. Wonderful from the Mets leading that vote?

 

Chipper leads Aramis by a million votes, Wright is in 3rd.

[David]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

Isn't Mr. Wonderful from the Mets leading that vote?

 

I'm pretty sure he's (Wright) 3rd. Chipper leads and Aramis is second. That said, I'm almost positive it doesn't defer to the next leading vote-getter when a starter is hurt.

[CoolHandLuke]

I'd take 4,5,6 over 1,2,3 any day, lack of a cf be damned.

[Guest]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

Isn't Mr. Wonderful from the Mets leading that vote?

 

No Chipper is leading, with Aramis in 2nd (about 200k votes ahead of Wright in 3rd).

[Little Slide Rooter]

Whatever happens, Griffey being ahead of Braun, Kosuke, or even Ludwick is a travesty. Theres a long list of outfielders who should be ahead of Griffey.

[erik316wttn]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080629&content_id=3032466&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

 

Im going to go ahead and say it: I want the NL to win the game, and Braun gives us the better chance than Fukudome. What I dont get is why Griffeys so high up there. I could understand Braun being in 3rd, but with Griffey ahead of him? I mean come on, did some huge group of fans wwho havnt watched baseball in 5 years decide to form some massive voting block?

 

A lot of times getting voted into the ASG is little more than a lifetime achievement award. Ripken didn't deserve a lot of his bids, especially near the end of his career, but he kept getting voted in year after year. Griffey is a sure-fire HOF'er, and that's what a lot of casual fans are voting on... career achievement rather than success in this season.

[Derwood]

being 2nd place in the voting means nothing. the coaches aren't emboldened to pick Aramis over Wright because of the voting

[Clem Fandango]

Whatever happens, Griffey being ahead of Braun, Kosuke, or even Ludwick is a travesty. Theres a long list of outfielders who should be ahead of Griffey.

 

Griffey has been getting All-Star nods he doesn't deserve for years for one simple reason:

 

He's Ken Griffey, Jr.

 

If he plays next year as a platoon player and doesn't get hurt, he'll go to the all-star game as one of the leading OF vote getters. Book it.

[CubColtPacer]

Fukudome helps the NL team more than Braun because he's a possible CF. Right now, if Braun passes Fukudome and Soriano comes back in time for the game, the NL is going to line up as Braun in LF, Soriano in CF, Griffey in RF. That's just a putrid defensive outfield. Fukudome in CF and Soriano in left is going to be enough of a defensive upgrade in both places to be worth the extra 1 at-bat. Plus, it's not like Braun is much better than Fukudome offensively anyway.

[inari]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

I'd think this is absolutely possible.

[Little Slide Rooter]

But vs. Josh Hamilton and the Yank Sox, were going to need some big time offense. Griffey hasnt brought that to the table in quite some time. Hopefully, they'll give him 1 inning and put in someone good.

[David]

being 2nd place in the voting means nothing. the coaches aren't emboldened to pick Aramis over Wright because of the voting

 

Which is basically what I said (well, I left it open with the "almost" part). The coaches should be emboldened to pick Aramis to start because he's better (this year).

[TruffleShuffle]

With Chipper looking to going on the DL soon, is it possible we might have a potential 4th starter in Aramis?

 

Isn't Mr. Wonderful from the Mets leading that vote?

 

i'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but david wright is indeed pretty wonderful.

[CubColtPacer]

being 2nd place in the voting means nothing. the coaches aren't emboldened to pick Aramis over Wright because of the voting

 

Which is basically what I said (well, I left it open with the "almost" part). The coaches should be emboldened to pick Aramis to start because he's better (this year).

 

It will be close. Wright may get it because the game is in NY, even if it's not at Shea.

 

Look at their stats (I'm listing several stats that will be looked at by the people picking, even if they don't matter very much, so be forewarned):

 

Wright: 312 AB's, 48 R, 89 H, 19 2B, 1 3B, 15 HR, 64 RBI, 8 SB, 4 CS, 55 K/48 BB, .285/.378/.497, 11 E

Aramis: 291 AB's, 54 R, 84 H, 20 2B, 0 3B, 14 HR, 55 RBI, 1 SB, 1 CS, 53 K/42 BB, .289/.390/.502, 7 E

 

That's about as close as you can get across the board. less than 10 runs and RBI, 1 double off, 1 triple off, 1 home run off, walk and strikeout totals that are very close. Wright's SB's will give him a slight edge, as his CS will mostly be ignored. Aramis's error totals will help him slightly.

 

The only difference in their OBP comes from the fact that Wright has hit 6 sacrifice flies compared to Aramis's 1, and Aramis has been hit 7 times compared to only 2 for Wright. The only difference in their slugging is the slight difference in batting average.

 

With the stats that close, I think it will come down to more of perception than anything else. Wright has the better reputation in the past. Aramis has been in the headlines more because of the Cubs success. Like I said in the beginning, I think the tiebreaker might be the NY factor and Wright will be the starter, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Aramis got it instead.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

being 2nd place in the voting means nothing. the coaches aren't emboldened to pick Aramis over Wright because of the voting

 

could they be emboldened if one is a better player? Im still bitter over the travesty that was the gold glove voting.