The DSL is About to Get Started

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The Domincan Summer League gets started on Saturday and for the first time, the Cubs will be fielding two teams. DSL Cubs 1 will be in Boca Chica North while DSL Cubs 2 will be in Boca Chica South.

 

MiLB.com has a partial roster up for the DSL Cubs 1 (the manager and hitting coach match Cubs 1). Franklin Blanco will manage Cubs 2, Anderson Tavares will be the pitching coach and Lucrecio Vals the hitting coach.

 

DSL CUBS #1:

 

Pitchers

Manolin de Leon RHP

Arturo Florentino RHP

Pacheco Mota RHP

Marcos Perez RHP

George Pineda RHP

Ramon Rache RHP

Ramon Reyes RHP

Tomas Sanchez RHP

 

Catchers

Miguel Gonzalez

Jose Vigay

 

Infielders

Alexander Mejia 1B

Pedro Ramirez 1B

 

Outfielders

Albert Hernandez

Nelson Pierre

[Guest]

And, based on some of the stuff Arizona Phil has written, here's a compilation of guys from the Cubs Dominican and Venezuelan Academies who are available to play at the DSL - some of these guys are already on MiLB.com's roster:

 

PITCHERS:

Bienvenido Beltre

Yelson Cabrera

Julio Castillo

Miguel Corletto

Alejandro de la Cruz

Manolin DeLeon

Arturo Florentino

* Carlos Galvez

Edilmar Infante - Venezuela Academy

Junniol Lami

Luis Liria

Jose Montecino

Pacheco Mota

Reinaldo Navarro - Venezuela Academy

Lenny Pena

* Marcos Perez

Francoris Pineda

Gorge Pineda

Ramon Rache

Ramon Reyes

Gregorio Rodriguez - Venezuela Academy

* Abner Ruiz

Tomas Sanchez

Jose Tineo

 

CATCHERS:

Jose Bracho - Venezuela Academy

Miguel Gonzalez

Yamel Liria

Carlos Romero - Venezuela Academy

Jose Vigay

 

INFIELDERS:

Jose Avila - Venezuela Academy

# Robert Bautista

# Ramon Bonilla

# Herasmo Magallanes

# Alexander Mejia

Carlos Morales

Juan Pena

Pedro Ramirez

Andy Soto

 

OUTFIELDERS:

Albert Hernandez

Elvin Jiminez

# Nelson Pierre

# Gregorio Robles

# Jose Valdez

[TruffleShuffle]

any guys that i should be particularly uninterested in? the cub minor league system has plenty of those but i am willing to follow some others.

[Guest]

any guys that i should be particularly uninterested in? the cub minor league system has plenty of those but i am willing to follow some others.

 

Francisco Acosta and Jose Severino will likely be on different DSL teams. They're both worthy of being in the AZL but they fought each other a few months ago and got sent back to the DR.

[NCCubFan]

any guys that i should be particularly uninterested in? the cub minor league system has plenty of those but i am willing to follow some others.

 

Francisco Acosta and Jose Severino will likely be on different DSL teams. They're both worthy of being in the AZL but they fought each other a few months ago and got sent back to the DR.

Sounds like the Dominican version of Zambrano vs. Barrett or Ryu vs. Sisco.

[craig]

Thanks for the thread, cal.

 

It's hard to get very excited. It seems the Latin pipeline has really shut down. Marmol and Cedeno, they were signed a long time ago, back around the turn of the millenium? Pie in around 2001? Since then, it seems we've hardly had anybody who was able to make it all the way to A-ball and still stand as a prospect. Cabrera is in his 3rd year, and he's been pretty much getting killed in low-A. And that's the best we can do every five years or so? Jesus Valdez make it to A+ as a non-prospect? I guess I'm wrong on that, Wellington Castillo is probably the best Latin guy in the last five years, and people talk him up as a possible Henry Blanco. But, hopefully this year will be better. Obviously it takes only one guy to click to make a difference. One Marmol, one Pujols, one Zambrano, can change a franchise.

 

I've thought it interesting that they've been going so hard in Asia with Steve Wilson. Back in the day, I thought they kind of pulled out of Asia because they thought they were getting better bang for their buck in Latin America. I wonder if after year after year of whiffing in Latin America, the dive back into Asian players in part is an acknowledgment that our Latin scouts are really not doing the job.

 

I wonder whether they shouldn't shake things up scouts-wise down there. For a while, Jose Serra in Dominican seemed like an impact scout. But with every year of striking out since, I wonder whether he's lost his scouting energy or whether his couple of successes really were luck in the first place.

 

But, hopefully with the two DSL teams going, that will help. And hopefully somebody from the Carmona or Antigua or the guy they liked better will show some progress.

[Outshined_One]

I've thought it interesting that they've been going so hard in Asia with Steve Wilson. Back in the day, I thought they kind of pulled out of Asia because they thought they were getting better bang for their buck in Latin America. I wonder if after year after year of whiffing in Latin America, the dive back into Asian players in part is an acknowledgment that our Latin scouts are really not doing the job.

 

I think a large part of the problem is the fact that the two primary Latin American markets (Venezuela and the Dominican Republic) have become so over-saturated with other teams that it has become very difficult to not only unearth easy to sign top prospects, but also that the price of those prospects have skyrocketed.

 

The Pacific Rim, on the other hand, has fewer teams competing for a larger number of prospects. Granted, the quality is not quite as refined, but there are definitely good players to be had. The Cubs were able to sign two of the top Australian pitching prospects in Cody Hams and Ryan Searle. They also got Hung-Wen Chen and Dae-Eun Rhee. I have a hard time believing they would be able to get prospects of equivalent caliber out of Latin America at a comparable price.

[Guest]

Thanks for the thread, cal.

 

It's hard to get very excited. It seems the Latin pipeline has really shut down. Marmol and Cedeno, they were signed a long time ago, back around the turn of the millenium? Pie in around 2001? Since then, it seems we've hardly had anybody who was able to make it all the way to A-ball and still stand as a prospect. Cabrera is in his 3rd year, and he's been pretty much getting killed in low-A. And that's the best we can do every five years or so? Jesus Valdez make it to A+ as a non-prospect? I guess I'm wrong on that, Wellington Castillo is probably the best Latin guy in the last five years, and people talk him up as a possible Henry Blanco. But, hopefully this year will be better. Obviously it takes only one guy to click to make a difference. One Marmol, one Pujols, one Zambrano, can change a franchise.

 

I've thought it interesting that they've been going so hard in Asia with Steve Wilson. Back in the day, I thought they kind of pulled out of Asia because they thought they were getting better bang for their buck in Latin America. I wonder if after year after year of whiffing in Latin America, the dive back into Asian players in part is an acknowledgment that our Latin scouts are really not doing the job.

 

I wonder whether they shouldn't shake things up scouts-wise down there. For a while, Jose Serra in Dominican seemed like an impact scout. But with every year of striking out since, I wonder whether he's lost his scouting energy or whether his couple of successes really were luck in the first place.

 

But, hopefully with the two DSL teams going, that will help. And hopefully somebody from the Carmona or Antigua or the guy they liked better will show some progress.

 

I think Robert Hernandez is easily the best Latin prospect in the system signed by the Cubs, steroids or not. But you're right, recent results have not been that great and there's only been one big name, big bonus UDFA since since Felix Pie...and Larry Suarez has already gotten his TJS.

[Guest]

Official DSL Rosters:

 

DSL Cubs 1

 

DSL Cubs 2

[javy knows my name]

Hmm, DSL means something quite a bit different to me. And it has nothing to do with the interwebs, either.

[mul21]

Hmm, DSL means something quite a bit different to me. And it has nothing to do with the interwebs, either.

 

Possibly Angelina Jolie related?

[javy knows my name]

Hmm, DSL means something quite a bit different to me. And it has nothing to do with the interwebs, either.

 

Possibly Angelina Jolie related?

:good:

[craig]

DSL1 is 3-0, DSL2 is 1-2. Team one seems to have more older guys, a lot of guys in the 20-22 range. Not sure if there are any clues; if DSL1 the "good" team (even if mostly overaged roster fillers) and DSL2 the JV team for the young kids to get some action? If so, then does it mean that if a 17 or 18-year-old is on team 1 and is doing well, then those are the "real" pospects? While the older guys are roster fillers and the team 2 guys are "well, you never know when a guy might blossom, or add 7 mph to their fastball, or suddenly figure out the grip on a breaking ball..."