Re: 04/19 Pittsburgh (Gorzelanny) @ CUBS (Marquis) 12:05, CSN TV

[Hairyducked Idiot]

and a hot less-than-half season of hitting in the PCL has everybody sold on him and singing his praises and praying for severe injury of the incumbent? wow, if that isnt the definition of reactionary i do not know what is.

 

Less-than-half season? Check his 2005.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fukudome walked

[WilcoFan]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

 

Wow-complaining about play that hasn't even happened yet. That's an effective strategy.

Its something a GM has to do every day on his job.

 

Even Neifi has had stretches where he walloped the ball. I

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

[YearofDaCubs]

i love fukudome

[BigSlick]

WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL

 

The wishing for Theriot to be injured stuff was mostly tongue-in-cheek, are you guys so sensitive that it pierces your soul whenever someone talks about him?

 

Its just like the DeRosa hitting into DP thing, we all know he wont most of the time its just a thing we joke about, jesus guys you're taking the fun out of watching baseball

[Schwarber Fan]

Fukudome walked

 

That's gonna be the most common thing you post this season ;)

[BigSlick]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

 

Wow-complaining about play that hasn't even happened yet. That's an effective strategy.

Its something a GM has to do every day on his job.

 

Even Neifi has had stretches where he walloped the ball. I

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

Whatever, we shouldn't talk about anyones play at all then, since none of us is in any position to make any decision.

 

I'm saying making decisions based on play that hasn't happened yet is something that commonly happens and should be encouraged. Otherwise we are just picking players at random and upgrading them to MLB.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

 

Thank you for telling us how we should be fans. I'm wearing my jersey but not my hat today, is that cool with you?

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FOURTH INNING

 

Theriot grounded out to short, 6-3

D Lee grounded out to short, 6-3

Ramirez doubled to right center field

Fukudome walked

DeRosa grounded into a FC, 6-4, Fukudome out at second

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Pittsburgh      0 0 0 0                        0  3  0
CUBS            2 1 4 0                        7  7  0

 

Home runs:

Pittsburgh: none

CUBS: Lee (7)

 

Pittsburgh     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Gorzelanny    2.7  6  7  7  4  3  1  80
Dumatrait     1.3  1  0  0  1  0  0  25

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marquis       4.0  3  0  0  1  4  0  63

[bcl412]

WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL

 

The wishing for Theriot to be injured stuff was mostly tongue-in-cheek, are you guys so sensitive that it pierces your soul whenever someone talks about him?

 

Its just like the DeRosa hitting into DP thing, we all know he wont most of the time its just a thing we joke about, jesus guys you're taking the fun out of watching baseball

 

I agree with the DeRosa thing, I thought that was just another Cubs suck and are doomed joke

[Schwarber Fan]

I'm pretty sure Kosuke was safe at second, not like it matters...

[Fred Hornkohl]

            Pittsburgh            CUBS
P/PA              3.94            4.38
RBI%              0.00            0.36
R/BR              0.00            0.58
BA               0.200           0.368
OBP              0.250           0.500
SLG              0.200           0.684
OPS              0.450           1.184
ERA              15.75            0.00
BB/9             11.25            2.25
K/9               6.75            9.00

[sneakypower]

and a hot less-than-half season of hitting in the PCL has everybody sold on him and singing his praises and praying for severe injury of the incumbent? wow, if that isnt the definition of reactionary i do not know what is.

 

Less-than-half season? Check his 2005.

i drew my own conclusion that the Cedeno hate occurred in 2006.

 

stop me if i'm mischaracterizing.

 

2005 - LOVE HIM

2006 - severe irrational cedeno hate

2007 - severe irrational cedeno hate continues...wallops the ball in the PCL...LOVE HIM

 

no, upon further thought i dont see anything reactionary about that

[WilcoFan]

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

 

Thank you for telling us how we should be fans. I'm wearing my jersey but not my hat today, is that cool with you?

 

No.

[BigSlick]

and a hot less-than-half season of hitting in the PCL has everybody sold on him and singing his praises and praying for severe injury of the incumbent? wow, if that isnt the definition of reactionary i do not know what is.

 

Less-than-half season? Check his 2005.

i drew my own conclusion that the Cedeno hate occurred in 2006.

 

stop me if i'm mischaracterizing.

 

2005 - LOVE HIM

2006 - severe irrational cedeno hate

2007 - severe irrational cedeno hate continues...wallops the ball in the PCL...LOVE HIM

 

no, upon further thought i dont see anything reactionary about that

 

Except they were looking at past numbers consistently when evaluating Cedeno. Theriot has never done anything to show that he can be an everyday better-than-replacement-level short stop. And if he is, then he is, its not like we have that many options. Most teams (other than the Yankees and Red Sox) have subpar position players, its part of the game.

 

Probably most of the reason Theriot draws reactionary comments on this site is because lazy Cubs fans that don't pay attention to the team think he's our Eckstein, awesome-scrappy-dappy-do saviour that can do no wrong. The people that look at the numbers know theres more to the story.

[bcl412]

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

 

 

The way I see it is when you put as much money into something that a lot of people do. It's fair if they hold that product up to their own standards. Regardless of what those standards are.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Bixler popped out to second base

[Fred Hornkohl]

Dumatrait struck out swinging

[Fred Hornkohl]

McLouth doubled to left center field

[WilcoFan]

How much complaining has there been of his play this year? .

 

You obviously haven't read too many game threads this year. My favorite: the "BE HURT THERIOT" comment(s).

 

To be fair, we aren't complaining about his play to date this season. We are complaining about the likely level of play the rest of the season.

 

Wow-complaining about play that hasn't even happened yet. That's an effective strategy.

Its something a GM has to do every day on his job.

 

Even Neifi has had stretches where he walloped the ball. I

 

I know everyone's a wannabe GM, but last time I checked, no one on this board was getting paid by the Chicago Cubs to make personnel decisions. Fans in general need to understand their roles a little better-it will do everyone a lot of good.

Whatever, we shouldn't talk about anyones play at all then, since none of us is in any position to make any decision.

 

I'm saying making decisions based on play that hasn't happened yet is something that commonly happens and should be encouraged. Otherwise we are just picking players at random and upgrading them to MLB.

 

 

Wow, did you miss the point. This has nothing to do with commenting on people's current play...it has to do with commenting on their alleged future play. Let me break it down:

 

1. Theriot is playing.

2. He has been playing well.

3. Regardless of our predictions, the Cubs will either (a.) choose for him to return to the bench or (b.) continue to play SS

4. None of us have any bearing on that decision.

5. If he continues playing at the level he is playing, the Cubs will be successful.

6. If he doesn't, it isn't very likely that Piniella will switch him out anyway, and the Cubs will be worse off for it.

7. Rooting for him to fail is essentially rooting for the team to fail, because his presence in the lineup isn't likely to change.

[bcl412]

McClouth really is a pain in the butt.

[Schwarber Fan]

Wow.. someone test Nate McClouth please

[Fred Hornkohl]

McLouth has hit safely in every Pirates game this year.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Nate McClouth MUST be ours!

[Andy]

McClouth really is a pain in the butt.

If we stay up 7-0 he can get all the hits he wants.