De-Row at 2B...

[wrigley23]

Man, I thought this broken record had finally stopped. Good God.

 

broken record? you mean soriano's sub .100 batting average? that's the broken record. His total lack of plate discipline & fuko's incredible patience at the plate are a perfect example of contrast. So I'm the only one that is sick of Soriano? Give me a break. If you look at each poster on this board, most post the same stuff day after day.

[wrigley23]

Do you have like one post that you translate into different languages and then retranslate back to English on Babelfish or something?

 

No. Do you?

[iCub]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

 

i guess you bench him. which is what everyone said at first, but you didn't like that. i don't know what you want.

 

more importantly, what do we do if rich hill loses his arm in a lawnmower accident? i don't know...but it's a question that needs to be asked.

 

Trade him to the Orioles before it hits the national news?

[Derwood]

im glad you feel all these things but you really look dumb saying that Soriano appears to be the biggest bust after 7, seven, yes 7 games in the 2nd year of a contract.

 

esp after he batted 300, hit 33 hrs, 40+ doubles ect in his first year

 

I look dumb? That's your opinion. I think you look dumb that you don't think he is. He didn't earn the money last year either. 130 strikeouts & 20 steals w/ a low OBP for a leadoff hitter making $18 mill/yr doesn't do it for me. Sorry. I doubt very many cub fans have much confidence at all that he will be a high level player on the back end of that contract let alone now.

 

you're right. if he made league minimum, the Cubs would have won 100 games last year

[ctcf]

Do you have like one post that you translate into different languages and then retranslate back to English on Babelfish or something?

 

No. Do you?

 

:lol:

[Sammy Sofa]

broken record? you mean soriano's sub .100 batting average? that's the broken record.

 

Don't be ridiculous. Don't be completely detached from reality and act like that's the type of results he usually has or ends up with. Talking like him starting cold over the first week of the season is indicative of his regular performance is just asinine. You may not like his approach, but he does get impressive results when he's on.

[WilcoFan]

Do you have like one post that you translate into different languages and then retranslate back to English on Babelfish or something?

 

No. Do you?

 

I know you are but what am I?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Don't be ridiculous. Don't be completely detached from reality and act like that's the type of results he usually has or ends up with. Talking like him starting cold over the first week of the season is indicative of his regular performance is just asinine. You may not like his approach, but he does get impressive results when he's on.

 

Ish. I wouldn't call them "impressive." He gets pretty decent results overall, but impressive might be stretching it. Semantics, I know.

[RynoRules]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

And do me a favor, if you don't agree with something I post or have a contrary opinion, just respond as such. Save your sacrcasm for someone else.

 

Why can't I be sarcastic? It's not like it's a complex question. If he becomes a defensive wreck, the Cubs have to replace him. If it's just straight answers, the thread was over before it started.

 

Oh I get it, sarcasm is necessary for every thread that you deem unworthy. Forgive me for trying to start a conversation - there are plenty of threads that get started and go nowhere. If you feel this should be one of them, then simply ignore it.

 

I think his defensive struggles thus far this year are interesting insomuch as they were not expected. Moreover, if he does become a wreck, it puts us in a very strange spot since he is a productive hitter.

[RynoRules]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

 

i guess you bench him. which is what everyone said at first, but you didn't like that. i don't know what you want.

 

 

All that I "want" is to have a discourse on baseball without dumb, ad hominem commentary.

 

Like I said above, you can't simply bench a productive hitter when you have a lineup like this one. I think its worth keeping an eye on.

[abuck1220]

ok, then you don't bench him.

 

good talk.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

And do me a favor, if you don't agree with something I post or have a contrary opinion, just respond as such. Save your sacrcasm for someone else.

 

Why can't I be sarcastic? It's not like it's a complex question. If he becomes a defensive wreck, the Cubs have to replace him. If it's just straight answers, the thread was over before it started.

 

Oh I get it, sarcasm is necessary for every thread that you deem unworthy. Forgive me for trying to start a conversation - there are plenty of threads that get started and go nowhere. If you feel this should be one of them, then simply ignore it.

 

I think his defensive struggles thus far this year are interesting insomuch as they were not expected. Moreover, if he does become a wreck, it puts us in a very strange spot since he is a productive hitter.

 

It's not a strange spot. If his "butchery" over the sample size of the first week was extended to the full season, he'd have to sit, period. He's obviously not nearly a good enough hitter to offset that many costly errors...but then again, the odds of him maintaining such an error streak are incredibly slim.

 

There's not really much room for a lot of "discourse."

[imb]

I think the answer he's looking for - and it's something that no one here has mentioned yet, to my knowledge - is bionic surgery.

 

Could we maybe stress to DeRosa that he gets robot legs? Maybe even robot arms and a cyborg eye?

 

just something to think about.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think the answer he's looking for - and it's something that no one here has mentioned yet, to my knowledge - is bionic surgery.

 

Could we maybe stress to DeRosa that he gets robot legs? Maybe even robot arms and a cyborg eye?

 

just something to think about.

 

You can give the man metal limbs, but you can't give him a metal soul. He'd obviously just be a cyborg distracted by the trade rumors, which would lead to him accidentally crushing babies with his metal claws and enslaving humanity.

[imb]

Yes honey, it's true. I'm as much man as machine, now. But these trade rumors, they still get to me. I promised myself I wouldn't cry. I'll get rusty.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is an odd thread.

 

It would be strange if DeRosa's butchery continues for long. If it does, you have to consider going with Eric Patterson, Theriot/Cedeno, and Fontenot, and maybe reinitiating talks for Roberts. Although the latter option is going to be very costly.

 

But the same can be said about Soriano's and Ramirez's bats, Lilly's pitching, and any number of strange early season trends across the league.

[abuck1220]

replacing derosa's butchery with patterson is only going to lead to threads just like this one except directed at patterson. where does it end?

[jersey cubs fan]

replacing derosa's butchery with patterson is only going to lead to threads just like this one except directed at patterson. where does it end?

 

I don't know, would you like to discourse it?

[Sammy Sofa]

replacing derosa's butchery with patterson is only going to lead to threads just like this one except directed at patterson. where does it end?

 

Distracted robots eating old people's medicine.

[imb]

replacing derosa's butchery with patterson is only going to lead to threads just like this one except directed at patterson. where does it end?

 

I don't know, would you like to discourse it?

 

i believe it has been officially requested that you stick your sacrcasm (sic) straight up your (redacted)

[abuck1220]

replacing derosa's butchery with patterson is only going to lead to threads just like this one except directed at patterson. where does it end?

 

I don't know, would you like to discourse it?

 

certainly.

 

i will meet you at the local community theater, set up some podiums and get to the bottom of this.*

 

*this will be a no sarcasm discourse.

[chasinf5s]

im glad you feel all these things but you really look dumb saying that Soriano appears to be the biggest bust after 7, seven, yes 7 games in the 2nd year of a contract.

 

esp after he batted 300, hit 33 hrs, 40+ doubles ect in his first year

 

I look dumb? That's your opinion. I think you look dumb that you don't think he is. He didn't earn the money last year either. 130 strikeouts & 20 steals w/ a low OBP for a leadoff hitter making $18 mill/yr doesn't do it for me. Sorry. I doubt very many cub fans have much confidence at all that he will be a high level player on the back end of that contract let alone now.

 

Its not like they didnt know what they were getting when they signed him but i guess you arent that quick to understand this. You are the type who wouldve complained that we didnt get Soriano because they didnt spend the money but now that we spent the money he isint pulling his weight.

[TheDude]

On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy.

Yeah, I don't think so. I can't even stretch to find the starting point of this argument.

[wrigley23]

so...you guys that are defending soriano are happy we don't have roberts & have no problem w/ paying soriano $126 mill over the next 7 yrs?

[imb]

so...you guys that are defending soriano are happy we don't have roberts & have no problem w/ paying soriano $126 mill over the next 7 yrs?

 

none whatsoever, and i absolutely do not want roberts anywhere near this team