Official Theriot appreciation thread

[bring stone back]

i'd rather have a lazy .900 OPS player than a hard working .700 OPS player

 

So would I. Where is this guy then? Playing for the Iowa Cubs?

 

That's what I just don't understand about this argument. If we had a better player then I'm ALL for benching Theriot. Problem is, that better player does not play for the Chicago Cubs right now.

[17 Seconds]

i'd rather have a lazy .900 OPS player than a hard working .700 OPS player

 

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[bring stone back]

he's the best we got

no, he really isn't

 

Yes, he really is. I can only think of one other person on the team who plays shortstop and you can't be talking about Cedeno. Who is this anonymous shortstop?

 

Cedeno. I know he's not white or gritty enough, but he's still no worse than Theriot.

 

His past major league performances beg to differ.

 

Tell me that you want to try DeRosa at short or make a trade - great, I'm ALL for that. Let's do it, but Cedeno isn't better than Theriot. He just isn't.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

he's the best we got

no, he really isn't

 

Yes, he really is. I can only think of one other person on the team who plays shortstop and you can't be talking about Cedeno. Who is this anonymous shortstop?

I can be talking about Cedeno, for one. DeRosa would also be better.

[bring stone back]

Did you like Neifi too?

 

No because he made stupid mistakes and was lazy.

 

Now you're just making things up. How did he make stupid mistakes? How was he lazy? Wasn't Theriot the one who sat at home all winter while Cedeno played winter ball and tried to improve?

 

Yes, Ryan Theriot just sat on his ass in Louisiana ALL winter long and refused to do anything to improve his baseball skills, being in better shape or being a better baseball player overall.

 

What a silly comment.

 

Since Cedeno worked so hard to improve over the winter compared to Theriot (as you allege) wouldn't that make Cedeno now "gritty"?

[bring stone back]

he's the best we got

no, he really isn't

 

Yes, he really is. I can only think of one other person on the team who plays shortstop and you can't be talking about Cedeno. Who is this anonymous shortstop?

I can be talking about Cedeno, for one. DeRosa would also be better.

 

You're right - you can be talking about Cedeno...it just wouldn't make for a very good argument.

[SpongeWorthy]

Did you like Neifi too?

 

No because he made stupid mistakes and was lazy.

 

Now you're just making things up. How did he make stupid mistakes? How was he lazy? Wasn't Theriot the one who sat at home all winter while Cedeno played winter ball and tried to improve?

 

Yes, Ryan Theriot just sat on his ass in Louisiana ALL winter long and refused to do anything to improve his baseball skills, being in better shape or being a better baseball player overall.

 

What a silly comment.

 

Since Cedeno worked so hard to improve over the winter compared to Theriot (as you allege) wouldn't that make Cedeno now "gritty"?

 

There's no such thing as a gritty Latin player. Duh.

[VanceJergins]

i'd rather have a lazy .900 OPS player than a hard working .700 OPS player

 

Yeah, real smart :roll: . And how many championships has Manny Ramirez won in the past few years, huh smart guy?

[inari]

Theriot's one of my most liked Cubs in a while. So is Ryan Dempster. I don't want either one of them in the roles that they currently have. In fact, I'm not sure I want Ryan Theriot on the roster if the alternative is Matt Murton.

[Andy]

White Theriot = gritty, hard-working

 

Latino Neifi = lazy, makes stupid mistakes

[Skyballer]

This is guy is saying that he likes Theriot as a person, he never says Theriot is good or anything.

[inari]

This is guy is saying that he likes Theriot as a person, he never says Theriot is good or anything.

 

He's also saying Theriot is the best option we have, which most of us disagree with.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm intrigued how you know Theriot is a better person compared to oh, just about anyone else on the team.

[David]

It's beyond me how people insist that Ryan Theriot is better than Cedeno at baseball.

 

So Theriot proved that he can be just short of terrible (at times) at the MLB level last year. Whoop-de-doo. He was lucky to be not bad when he was. He's going to prove to suck even worse this year. He's bad. Those of you who think he's worth a crap can continue to delude yourselves and believe he just, somehow, has a skillset that would allow him to succeed in the highest level of baseball but that made success elude him in the lower ranks. Whatever you want to tell yourselves.

 

 

It's funny, because I never realized that the minor leagues aren't baseball and that those performances don't count. Because, if they did, Cedeno's resume would blow Theriot's out of the water.

[David]

I'm intrigued how you know Theriot is a better person compared to oh, just about anyone else on the team.

 

Because he runs really hard and is short.

[CubbieBum]

White Theriot = gritty, hard-working

 

Latino Neifi = lazy, makes stupid mistakes

 

You of all people on this board should not be making something I say into a racial argument.

 

And I know for a fact from your wishing bad things on him last year that you don't like Neifi one bit.

[bring stone back]

It's beyond me how people insist that Ryan Theriot is better than Cedeno at baseball.

 

I'm just guessing but it's probably because Ryan Theriot has outperformed Ronny Cedeno at the major league level. Just a guess...

 

If Theriot is just short of terrible, that makes Cedeno what - far short of terrible then? This is not a difficult argument. Ryan Theriot is a below average baseball player - we all know that. However, he is the best shortstop the Cubs have and better than Cedeno.

[KingCubsFan]

I'm intrigued how you know Theriot is a better person compared to oh, just about anyone else on the team.

Who said that?

[VanceJergins]

White Theriot = gritty, hard-working

 

Latino Neifi = lazy, makes stupid mistakes

 

You of all people on this board should not be making something I say into a racial argument.

 

And I know for a fact from your wishing bad things on him last year that you don't like Neifi one bit.

 

Que?

[SABR Gamer]

Go to hell.

 

Mojo, this made me smile, and I agree. Go to hell topic starter.

[inari]

It's beyond me how people insist that Ryan Theriot is better than Cedeno at baseball.

 

I'm just guessing but it's probably because Ryan Theriot has outperformed Ronny Cedeno at the major league level. Just a guess...

 

If Theriot is just short of terrible, that makes Cedeno what - far short of terrible then? This is not a difficult argument. Ryan Theriot is a below average baseball player - we all know that. However, he is the best shortstop the Cubs have and better than Cedeno.

 

No, it makes Cedeno a pretty unknown quantity whose floor is Ryan Theriot's ceiling.

[SABR Gamer]

I think you're gonna be alone in this one.

 

Very well may be. Doesn't bother me any. I'll always support a guy who plays all out and is a good guy.

 

That's cool. I want to win.

 

I want to win too and with our roster right now Theriot is the best we got which is why I started this thread. Theriot isn't a great player by any stretch but he's our best option.

 

Which should inspire us to start a Jim Hendry is an incompetent oaf thread, not start an appreciation thread.

 

Suckage should never be appreciated.

[17 Seconds]

I don't really understand the "he's the best option we have" argument. Last I checked, teams can make trades to get other players. I think the majority of the people who want Theriot replaced would prefer we get a shortstop through a trade. Saying you support Theriot because he's (arguably) the best option we have is kind of silly to me. The Tigers didn't settle for Brandon Inge at third just because he was the best option they had.

[David]

It's beyond me how people insist that Ryan Theriot is better than Cedeno at baseball.

 

I'm just guessing but it's probably because Ryan Theriot has outperformed Ronny Cedeno at the major league level. Just a guess...

 

If Theriot is just short of terrible, that makes Cedeno what - far short of terrible then? This is not a difficult argument. Ryan Theriot is a below average baseball player - we all know that. However, he is the best shortstop the Cubs have and better than Cedeno.

 

LOL ya, it must mean nothing that Cedeno has outperformed Theriot everywhere else, and at a younger age.

 

Theriot obviously just has what it takes to succeed at the major league level, while Ronny doesn't. Damn all those crazy minor league numbers that say Ronny is far better at baseball. It's a different game in the minors. They're not playing baseball. Or something.

Edited April 3, 2008 by David

[SABR Gamer]

he's the best we got

no, he really isn't

 

Agreed, Cedeno is better and so would moving DeRosa to short and starting E-Patt at 2B. He's only the best realistic option because our organization lacks any creative ability whatsoever. Jim is a moron, and Lou is just a silly old man.