A-rod will opt out says SI

[Mizzou]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline.

[E.J.]

Theo isn't the type of GM who likes to commit at least 8 years to a guy in his mid 30's. Particularity after a WS championship. Consider Lowell's defense he's a really underrated player.

 

I agree. I just don't see the Red Sox getting involved. I think it comes down to some teams out west like the Angels, Dodgers, maybe Giants, and then some random teams like the Tigers, White Sox, or Mariners.

[cbbryan]

Count me as surprised. Arod must have really wanted out, because he must have known he couldn't get that much more money out of another team. It's encouraging that it wasn't all about the money. I thought the Cubs had no chance, and now I have to think they are in the running and may even be frontrunners depending on the status of the sale.

 

 

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. It only takes two teams to bid against each other and he may get $30/per. I've heard all kinds of teams are interested in talking to him. Cubs, Angels, Dodgers, Boston, Florida!

 

And if the Yanks lose Posada, they may try to get back into the bidding.

 

I'm just not convinced it's not about the money. His agent is Scott Boras, it's always about the money............... ask Kevin Millwood.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

I'd take 1997 A-Rod if it means no more Theriot

[David]

I guess I took way too long to read through the thread and then post that. Heh.

[BigbadB]

Let's see. Mike Lowell or A-Rod. Hmmm. Tough decision.

 

Not.

 

$9M (very good player) vs. maybe $30M (great player)

 

Is the difference between very good and great worth approx. $20M?

 

It's far from an obvious decision. Plus A-Rod would command perhaps 5+ years, and the Sox supposedly don't go for that kind of thing...

 

The Red Sox sport the 2nd biggest salary in baseball, and were close to inking A-Rod the last time he was a free agent.

 

I'm sorry, but this is a no brainer for the Sox. Stick it to the Yankees, land the best player to ever play the game, all on the heels of a World Series Championship.

 

Not to mention the fact that Boston can probably easily dump a few salaries along the way to make A-Rod's contract more easily manageable. They won't need Lowell. With Ellsbury, they don't need Crisp. They can probably pay a part of Lugo's contract to make him go away as well, since he really didn't work out all that well.

 

Why am I arguing this? I want A-Rod on the Cubs. I hope Boston inks Lowell to a deal right after A-Rod makes it official.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline.

 

 

A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

 

He's more likely to be the 06 player but I'd say he'll actually somewhere in between the two.

 

 

You're most likely right for 08, particularly if he plays in the NLC.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Is the difference between very good and great worth approx. $20M?

 

In baseball? Absolutely. Great is very rare. Pretty good (I know you said 'very', but grant me a little license) is abundant.

 

With A-Rod at SS or 2B, you are giving ~10% of your team's plate appearances to one of the best hitters in the game, and you are doing it from a position that your competitors have to fill with slap hitters.

 

You start your team with A-Rod at a middle infield position, and I start mine with Ryan Theriot, and that difference is almost insurmountable if you don't do anything stupid with your remaining 24 roster spots.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I know he would like the Cubs to be screwed with contracts and such. I guess that's the only reason I could see for CFICT feeling that way.

 

 

Antonetti will have us ready by 09. :wink:

[VanceJergins]

If Boston got ARod, maybe they would finally move Ramirez....I wouldn't mind taking him off their hands for a reasonable price.

[cbbryan]

 

Is the difference between very good and great worth approx. $20M?

 

In baseball? Absolutely. Great is very rare. Pretty good (I know you said 'very', but grant me a little license) is abundant.

 

With A-Rod at SS or 2B, you are giving ~10% of your team's plate appearances to one of the best hitters in the game, and you are doing it from a position that your competitors have to fill with slap hitters.

 

You start your team with A-Rod at a middle infield position, and I start mine with Ryan Theriot, and that difference is almost insurmountable if you don't do anything stupid with your remaining 24 roster spots.

 

I actually agree here. ARod is worth every penny. The Cubs would easy match the 50,000 jerseys in the first week that the Yankees did when ARod arrived in NY.

 

The marketing side of ARod is limitless and he improves the product on the field.

 

Just tell Hendry to backload the contract so the Trib. doesn't have to worry about paying the salary! :lol:

[E.J.]

I know he would like the Cubs to be screwed with contracts and such. I guess that's the only reason I could see for CFICT feeling that way.

 

 

Antonetti will have us ready by 09. :wink:

 

If you get Antonetti I'm going to have a fit. :getyou:

[CubinNY]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline.

 

 

A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment.

 

ARod is not in his mid 30s. He's 31. If he does he'll be 39 at the end. Five is more like it with some options. Boras/ARod might be greedy but he/they are not stupid.

Edited October 29, 2007 by CubinNY

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I know he would like the Cubs to be screwed with contracts and such. I guess that's the only reason I could see for CFICT feeling that way.

 

 

Antonetti will have us ready by 09. :wink:

 

If you get Antonetti I'm going to have a fit. :getyou:

 

 

Not to hijack the thread but it's looking very, very likely.

[Sammy Sofa]

A player in his mid 30's is in decline.

 

He just turned 32. You keep talking like he's 35 or 36.

[Mizzou]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline.

 

 

A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment.

He just turned 32 this summer, please stop saying he's in his mid 30's. He has played in at least 154 games each of the past 7 years and has never had a serious injury. By definition, he's not on the decline right now (as he's never had a better year than '07), and just because he's 32 years old doesn't mean he's automatically going to get hurt. I agree that 8/30 if a major commitment, but it's worth it for a guy of this caliber.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I actually agree here. ARod is worth every penny. The Cubs would easy match the 50,000 jerseys in the first week that the Yankees did when ARod arrived in NY.

 

The marketing side of ARod is limitless and he improves the product on the field.

 

Just tell Hendry to backload the contract so the Trib. doesn't have to worry about paying the salary! :lol:

 

Fair to note, though: Unless the rules have changed in the last few years, I don't believe teams directly receiving revenue from jerseys. I think it is shared equally among all teams.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

 

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's?

 

 

He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline.

 

 

A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment.

 

ARod is not in his mid 30s. He's 31. He'' does he'll be 39 at the end. Five is more like it with some options. Boras/ARod might be greedy but he/they are not stupid.

 

 

He's actually 32 (I thought he was 33, doh!).

[Derwood]

remember, for Hendry, $30M per year over 8 years is actually more like 17/18/21/24/27/33/40/whatever

[Burtonbell]

remember, for Hendry, $30M per year over 8 years is actually more like 17/18/21/24/27/33/40/whatever

 

LMAO! So True

[cbbryan]

I actually agree here. ARod is worth every penny. The Cubs would easy match the 50,000 jerseys in the first week that the Yankees did when ARod arrived in NY.

 

The marketing side of ARod is limitless and he improves the product on the field.

 

Just tell Hendry to backload the contract so the Trib. doesn't have to worry about paying the salary! :lol:

 

Fair to note, though: Unless the rules have changed in the last few years, I don't believe teams directly receiving revenue from jerseys. I think it is shared equally among all teams.

 

I believe you're right on US sales. I don't think it is shared for jerseys outside the US.

 

There is obviously other revenue streams that ARod will help. I'm not an expert on what all is shared and what is not.

 

He's worth every penny, IMO, though!

[Fro]

Just give him Wrigley Field in exchange for a ten-year deal at SS. Problem solved. Arod turns around and sells it to Cuban and everyone laughs all the way to the bank.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I actually agree here. ARod is worth every penny. The Cubs would easy match the 50,000 jerseys in the first week that the Yankees did when ARod arrived in NY.

 

The marketing side of ARod is limitless and he improves the product on the field.

 

Just tell Hendry to backload the contract so the Trib. doesn't have to worry about paying the salary! :lol:

 

Fair to note, though: Unless the rules have changed in the last few years, I don't believe teams directly receiving revenue from jerseys. I think it is shared equally among all teams.

 

 

I believe they receive the revenue if it's purchased in their territory. I'm not 100% sure though.

[cbbryan]

Boston Wins the WS!