CM happy with Theriot

[nick23]

I stand by my original stance on Theriot. Hes good enough that theres no need to search for a replacement, but if the opportunity for something better comes along via trade, IE Tejada or Renteria to go for it.

 

theriot is good enough at ss if we improve a lot at rf and cf.

In theory, Murton in RF instead of Cliff and Pie 2008 instead of Pie/Pagan/Jones 2007 SHOULD be a big improvement, but I have little confidence that a) the Cubs will be smart enough to do it and b) that Murton and Pie will be what they should be just because we're the Cubs.

If Pie, Murton, and Theroit are all starting next year we're in serious trouble.

[CubinNY]

CM knows baseball like I know string theory.

[Abe Frohman]

Candy Maldonado was overrated.

[BigbadB]

I don't understand most of the criticism she takes. She works for the Cubs. Do you really expect her to write, "Theriot is a below average hitter who had one good month, so if the Cubs don't get A-Rod than the team is in trouble?"

 

Um, yes?

 

That's not her job. She's not a journalist, she's a PR puppet. It's no different on any other team website, anywhere.

 

And it would be better if she just avoided the question entirely, rather than make up lies that make people look silly.

 

You can sit there and say that BigbadB would be an excellent choice for the Cubs organization at SS going into 2008, but it doesn't make it true.

 

And the more you write goofy stories like that, the less likely anyone will believe you later.

 

Oh, by the way.......

 

Neifi Saved Us. :D

[jersey cubs fan]

I stand by my original stance on Theriot. Hes good enough that theres no need to search for a replacement, but if the opportunity for something better comes along via trade, IE Tejada or Renteria to go for it.

 

theriot is good enough at ss if we improve a lot at rf and cf.

In theory, Murton in RF instead of Cliff and Pie 2008 instead of Pie/Pagan/Jones 2007 SHOULD be a big improvement, but I have little confidence that a) the Cubs will be smart enough to do it and b) that Murton and Pie will be what they should be just because we're the Cubs.

 

What? Neither of those things should be a big improvement. At best, they will be minimal improvements, but more likely than not, they will be a net unchanged, which means, if they stick with Theriot the offense will continue to disappoint.

[biittner77]

If we accept that Muskat= Cubs org. this may actually be encouraging in a number of ways.

 

It could mean that they see an upgrade in the OF as more of a priority. It could also mean that they are trying not to appear desparate and can at least try to avoid overpaying.

 

This kind of statement really doesn't do anything to prevent them from pursuing Arod or some other obviously better SS.

 

On the other hand, if you were part of the Cubs org. you'd neither tell Muskat anything nor would you value her opinion.

[jersey cubs fan]

On the other hand, if you were part of the Cubs org. you'd neither tell Muskat anything nor would you value her opinion.

 

Yeah, I don't accept that she's part of the Cubs org. I believe she's just a typical all is well writer who fails to utilize any sort of objective analysis to inform her opinion. And the people who run mlb.com thought she'd be a great mouthpiece for the website. But if she were writing for the Daily Herald, she'd probably say the same stuff.

[wvcbxl]

If Pie, Murton, and Theroit are all starting next year we're in serious trouble.

 

That used to be "if Zambrano starts ..." :lol: :lol:

[nilodnayr]

i was expecting cm to be cubs management but hoping for CubbieMan

 

in actuality, i'll bet it's all three

 

Who is CubbieMan?

 

The Cubs' version of GreenMan?

 

You'd have to be on acid to think that Theriot is solid.

[javy knows my name]

i was expecting cm to be cubs management but hoping for CubbieMan

 

in actuality, i'll bet it's all three

 

Who is CubbieMan?

 

The Cubs' version of GreenMan?

 

You'd have to be on acid to think that Theriot is solid.

 

Ummm he's a solid...

 

Southerner

White guy

Cajun

AAAA player

Out

 

I take it back... Muskat was right!!

[E.J.]

i was expecting cm to be cubs management but hoping for CubbieMan

 

in actuality, i'll bet it's all three

 

Who is CubbieMan?

 

The Cubs' version of GreenMan?

 

You'd have to be on acid to think that Theriot is solid.

 

:lol:

 

I just watched that episode for the first time a couple days ago. God, I love that show.

[Irishoshea21]

I don't understand most of the criticism she takes. She works for the Cubs. Do you really expect her to write, "Theriot is a below average hitter who had one good month, so if the Cubs don't get A-Rod than the team is in trouble?"

 

Um, yes?

 

That's not her job. She's not a journalist, she's a PR puppet. It's no different on any other team website, anywhere.

 

And it would be better if she just avoided the question entirely, rather than make up lies that make people look silly.

 

You can sit there and say that BigbadB would be an excellent choice for the Cubs organization at SS going into 2008, but it doesn't make it true.

 

And the more you write goofy stories like that, the less likely anyone will believe you later.

 

Oh, by the way.......

 

Neifi Saved Us. :D

 

I don't disagree with any of that. Personally, I'm not a fan of her writing. I just dont understand why anyone goes to cubs.com looking for any reputible writing. She will never write what she really thinks, because she would lose her job if she did. It's all fluff, so take it for what it is worth.

 

I did notice that the whitesox and royals both have openings for that job. Anyone interesed?

 

"Ryan Buckvich is FINE."

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand most of the criticism she takes. She works for the Cubs. Do you really expect her to write, "Theriot is a below average hitter who had one good month, so if the Cubs don't get A-Rod than the team is in trouble?"

 

Um, yes?

 

That's not her job. She's not a journalist, she's a PR puppet. It's no different on any other team website, anywhere.

 

And it would be better if she just avoided the question entirely, rather than make up lies that make people look silly.

 

You can sit there and say that BigbadB would be an excellent choice for the Cubs organization at SS going into 2008, but it doesn't make it true.

 

And the more you write goofy stories like that, the less likely anyone will believe you later.

 

Oh, by the way.......

 

Neifi Saved Us. :D

 

I don't disagree with any of that. Personally, I'm not a fan of her writing. I just dont understand why anyone goes to cubs.com looking for any reputible writing. She will never write what she really thinks, because she would lose her job if she did. It's all fluff, so take it for what it is worth.

 

I did notice that the whitesox and royals both have openings for that job. Anyone interesed?

 

"Ryan Buckvich is FINE."

 

See, I disagree. I think she's writing exactly what she thinks.

[Guest]

I don't understand most of the criticism she takes. She works for the Cubs. Do you really expect her to write, "Theriot is a below average hitter who had one good month, so if the Cubs don't get A-Rod than the team is in trouble?"

 

Um, yes?

 

That's not her job. She's not a journalist, she's a PR puppet. It's no different on any other team website, anywhere.

 

And it would be better if she just avoided the question entirely, rather than make up lies that make people look silly.

 

You can sit there and say that BigbadB would be an excellent choice for the Cubs organization at SS going into 2008, but it doesn't make it true.

 

And the more you write goofy stories like that, the less likely anyone will believe you later.

 

Oh, by the way.......

 

Neifi Saved Us. :D

 

I don't disagree with any of that. Personally, I'm not a fan of her writing. I just dont understand why anyone goes to cubs.com looking for any reputible writing. She will never write what she really thinks, because she would lose her job if she did. It's all fluff, so take it for what it is worth.

 

I did notice that the whitesox and royals both have openings for that job. Anyone interesed?

 

"Ryan Buckvich is FINE."

 

See, I disagree. I think she's writing exactly what she thinks.

 

Do you really think she would last a week if she wrote things that criticized the Cubs? I don't read her stuff but I'm guessing that if you looked at the archives of all her stories, you wouldn't be able to find many things, if any at all, that criticize the Cubs. There's no way that she's writing exactly what she thinks. Even the most optimistic person would find some negatives to write about.

[jersey cubs fan]

Do you really think she would last a week if she wrote things that criticized the Cubs? I don't read her stuff but I'm guessing that if you looked at the archives of all her stories, you wouldn't be able to find many things, if any at all, that criticize the Cubs. There's no way that she's writing exactly what she thinks. Even the most optimistic person would find some negatives to write about.

 

I compare it to what Larry Meyer writes about the Bears on their website. He's by no means a neutral observer, but he doesn't come close to the lap dog acceptance of everything management does, like Muskat.

 

My point is, I'm pretty sure she got the job because they knew exactly what type of stuff she'd write, as opposed to her switching her writing style to fit the job description.

 

She really thinks Theriot at SS is a good idea. She's not just talking it up to hide management's intentions.

[snoodmonger]

she could easily be positive without spewing incorrect information like that. Something like:

 

"While Theriot played admirably during his 1st season in the bigs, the Cubs may need to seek more offense from the SS position. Doing so would thrust Theriot into a super-sub role, which might be a better use of his skills."

 

 

Still sunshiney, but way more honest and credible.

[Vanilla Ice]

My brother just graduated from college and worked for the Charlotte Bobcats website, among other things.

 

He hated that job, because as he put it he had to write that "the Bobcats fought valiantly but fell at the end of the game".

 

Instead of writing "The Bobcats lost by 20, and seemed to lack enthusiasm. They got their butts kicked up and down the floor"

 

The official website is merely another PR job.

[Sammy Sofa]

Do you really think she would last a week if she wrote things that criticized the Cubs? I don't read her stuff but I'm guessing that if you looked at the archives of all her stories, you wouldn't be able to find many things, if any at all, that criticize the Cubs. There's no way that she's writing exactly what she thinks. Even the most optimistic person would find some negatives to write about.

 

I compare it to what Larry Meyer writes about the Bears on their website. He's by no means a neutral observer, but he doesn't come close to the lap dog acceptance of everything management does, like Muskat.

 

My point is, I'm pretty sure she got the job because they knew exactly what type of stuff she'd write, as opposed to her switching her writing style to fit the job description.

 

She really thinks Theriot at SS is a good idea. She's not just talking it up to hide management's intentions.

 

You have absolutely no idea of this is true or not. And what good does it do to compare her to a Bears' writer to prove your point? That implies both organizations are run the same way and expect the same thing.

[Guest]

My brother just graduated from college and worked for the Charlotte Bobcats website, among other things.

 

He hated that job, because as he put it he had to write that "the Bobcats fought valiantly but fell at the end of the game".

 

Instead of writing "The Bobcats lost by 20, and seemed to lack enthusiasm. They got their butts kicked up and down the floor"

 

The official website is merely another PR job.

 

It's essentially the same as writing about high school teams where you don't say anything too bad about the team and have to put a positive spin on everything.

[BigbadB]

I don't disagree with any of that. Personally, I'm not a fan of her writing. I just dont understand why anyone goes to cubs.com looking for any reputible writing. She will never write what she really thinks, because she would lose her job if she did. It's all fluff, so take it for what it is worth.

 

I don't read her. I too was pulled into this thread thinking the CM in the thread title meant "Cubs Management". Since I was already here, I figured I'd see what all the fuss was about and add my two cents.

 

That's all.

[A New Era]

Theriot makes a nice little leadoff guy if we move Soriano to 4th or 5th in the order. I echo what was said, as long as there is a big upgrade in CF or SS. Theroit fits in nicely at lead-off on this team.

 

I also believe when CM writes something like this. It is ordered by higher ups to "soften the blow", when we don't land Rodriguez. :D

[Drew Doughty]

theriot is a terrible lead off hitter.

[nick23]

theriot is a terrible lead off hitter.

Um, no he's not. He's a little guy that plays shortstop. Leadoff hitters can only come from the SS and CF positions. Occasionally a second basemen can bat leadoff, but usually they bat 2nd. So I'll take Theriot batting leadoff over Pie anyday.

[nilodnayr]

theriot is a terrible lead off hitter.

Um, no he's not. He's a little guy that plays shortstop. Leadoff hitters can only come from the SS and CF positions. Occasionally a second basemen can bat leadoff, but usually they bat 2nd. So I'll take Theriot batting leadoff over Pie anyday.

 

Guys, I have an awesome idea. Lets take our worst hitter and give him the most at bats and then follow him with our best hitters!!!!!

[Derwood]

theriot is a terrible lead off hitter.

Um, no he's not. He's a little guy that plays shortstop. Leadoff hitters can only come from the SS and CF positions. Occasionally a second basemen can bat leadoff, but usually they bat 2nd. So I'll take Theriot batting leadoff over Pie anyday.

 

Guys, I have an awesome idea. Lets take our worst hitter and give him the most at bats and then follow him with our best hitters!!!!!

 

coughjunapierrecough