I just flew back from Chicago...

[Guest]

Stop the insults.

[USSoccer]

Ryan Theriot stayed and mowed the outfield at Wrigley before doing 5000 Hail Mary's and then moving into a refrigerator box on 3 blocks down from Wrigley. He then bought one of those belts that cut into you when you tighten them in order to punish himself for his playoff failings.

 

I also heard he's not going to eat or shave until he reports to Mesa.

[imb]

Ryan Theriot stayed and mowed the outfield at Wrigley before doing 5000 Hail Mary's and then moving into a refrigerator box on 3 blocks down from Wrigley. He then bought one of those belts that cut into you when you tighten them in order to punish himself for his playoff failings.

 

I also heard he's not going to eat or shave until he reports to Mesa.

 

sweet, i wish our other players (foreigners) would be more like him

[Mizzou]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

[Sammy Sofa]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose.

 

Which this story neither proves nor disproves, as several have pointed out. These guys getting plane tickets isn't like most of us having to get plane tickets.

[imb]

There's such a huge difference between expecting to lose and having all your bases covered.

[USSoccer]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

And what everyone else is pointing out is:

 

-It doesn't matter, because if you think Aramis and the 2 others that left planned on losing, you're insane.

-These guys are rich enough to pay for refundable, open ended tickets

-Someone in the organization probably set it up for them. Do you seriously think Aramis was like on Expedia.com at 7:30 am on Saturday booking airfare back to the Dominican?

[jersey cubs fan]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

And what everyone else is pointing out is:

 

-It doesn't matter, because if you think Aramis and the 2 others that left planned on losing, you're insane.

-These guys are rich enough to pay for refundable, open ended tickets

-Someone in the organization probably set it up for them. Do you seriously think Aramis was like on Expedia.com at 7:30 am on Saturday booking airfare back to the Dominican?

 

Everybody knows Zambrano is in charge of making all online transactions for the team.

[USSoccer]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

And what everyone else is pointing out is:

 

-It doesn't matter, because if you think Aramis and the 2 others that left planned on losing, you're insane.

-These guys are rich enough to pay for refundable, open ended tickets

-Someone in the organization probably set it up for them. Do you seriously think Aramis was like on Expedia.com at 7:30 am on Saturday booking airfare back to the Dominican?

 

Everybody knows Zambrano is in charge of making all online transactions for the team.

 

No, Lou put him in charge of planning the return trip to AZ for Game 5.

[moorecg]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

[USSoccer]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

[moorecg]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

 

Never once did I say they hoped to lose. It does bother me they were thinking about it and planning for that contingency though. Like I said in an earlier post.... I wouldn't have minded at all if they looked into it and bought the tickets right after the game...but worrying about losing and making sure they're on a plane out of town 10 hours after the game was over, before it even started, does rub me the wrong way.

[imb]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

 

Never once did I say they hoped to lose. It does bother me they were thinking about it and planning for that contingency though. Like I said in an earlier post.... I wouldn't have minded at all if they looked into it and bought the tickets right after the game...but worrying about losing and making sure they're on a plane out of town 10 hours after the game was over, before it even started, does rub me the wrong way.

 

You have a long future ahead of you as a sports columnist, congratulations.

[USSoccer]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

 

Never once did I say they hoped to lose. It does bother me they were thinking about it and planning for that contingency though. Like I said in an earlier post.... I wouldn't have minded at all if they looked into it and bought the tickets right after the game...but worrying about losing and making sure they're on a plane out of town 10 hours after the game was over, before it even started, does rub me the wrong way.

 

Ok, so you don't think they hoped to lose, yet it bothered you that they had someone arrange this ahead of time...because why?

 

Because it's incongruous with your idea of what a professional athlete should be? Should they be souless, gritty hustle-bots? Or should they make sure they can see their families as soon as possible should they be eliminated and thus have no reason to hang out in Chicago to read articles expressing the idea that they suck and don't care?

[moorecg]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

 

Never once did I say they hoped to lose. It does bother me they were thinking about it and planning for that contingency though. Like I said in an earlier post.... I wouldn't have minded at all if they looked into it and bought the tickets right after the game...but worrying about losing and making sure they're on a plane out of town 10 hours after the game was over, before it even started, does rub me the wrong way.

 

Ok, so you don't think they hoped to lose, yet it bothered you that they had someone arrange this ahead of time...because why?

 

Because it's incongruous with your idea of what a professional athlete should be? Should they be souless, gritty hustle-bots? Or should they make sure they can see their families as soon as possible should they be eliminated and thus have no reason to hang out in Chicago to read articles expressing the idea that they suck and don't care?

 

Because I'd rather them be confident/focused on winning than on buying plane tickets home....If the fact that they were making plans to get the hell out of town as soon as they lost (before they even lost) just doesn't bother you, thats fine, say that...It bothered me.

 

and your "souless, gritty hustle-bots" comments is ridiculous...if you'd have read any of my last 3 posts you'd see I don't care that they left when they did...but yes, it does rub me the wrong way that they made arrangements to leave before the game was even played....

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm just pissed that I didn't have the same foresight as Aramis.

[Sammy Sofa]

Because I'd rather them be confident/focused on winning than on buying plane tickets home....If the fact that they were making plans to get the hell out of town as soon as they lost (before they even lost) just doesn't bother you, thats fine, say that...It bothered me.

 

You're talking like you know the players themselves are making these plans and buying the tickets. I think it's far more likely the organization plans ahead and takes care of these things. I doubt Aramis ever sat down and decided to buy himself some airline tickets home before the series was done.

[Guest]

What moorecg is saying is that it isn't encouraging when players are expecting to lose. And then show up the next day and watch three strikes pass by with the bases loaded (or with two on, whatever).

 

This is more or less exactly what I was trying to say....And yeah, they're rich they can afford to buy refundable tickets, I could care less about that but just the idea that they MIGHT be worried about getting out of town as soon as humanly possible in the event we lost didn't sit too well.

 

I wouldn't have cared less if it had happened after the game...hell, there may only be one flight a day from Chicago to the Dominican or something like that, and I don't blame them for wanting to get on it...but the idea of them making arrangements for Sunday before they even played the game on Saturday rubbed me wrong.

 

Why? Do you seriously think they planned on losing, or hoped to lose?

 

Or did they maybe-GASP- just want to make sure that if they did lose, they could see their families ASAP instead of having to wait by themselves an extra day thinking about getting swept?

 

Never once did I say they hoped to lose. It does bother me they were thinking about it and planning for that contingency though. Like I said in an earlier post.... I wouldn't have minded at all if they looked into it and bought the tickets right after the game...but worrying about losing and making sure they're on a plane out of town 10 hours after the game was over, before it even started, does rub me the wrong way.

 

Ok, so you don't think they hoped to lose, yet it bothered you that they had someone arrange this ahead of time...because why?

 

Because it's incongruous with your idea of what a professional athlete should be? Should they be souless, gritty hustle-bots? Or should they make sure they can see their families as soon as possible should they be eliminated and thus have no reason to hang out in Chicago to read articles expressing the idea that they suck and don't care?

 

Because I'd rather them be confident/focused on winning than on buying plane tickets home....If the fact that they were making plans to get the hell out of town as soon as they lost (before they even lost) just doesn't bother you, thats fine, say that...It bothered me.

 

and your "souless, gritty hustle-bots" comments is ridiculous...if you'd have read any of my last 3 posts you'd see I don't care that they left when they did...but yes, it does rub me the wrong way that they made arrangements to leave before the game was even played....

 

I bet the players bought tickets to fly home on Monday, October 1 also but that doesn't mean they were expecting to miss the playoffs.

 

Like IMB said, they just had all their bases covered and for a star professional baseball player making millions every year, ordering a few extra $500 plane tickets isn't that big of a deal for them.