Cubs vs. Diamondbacks Pre Series Discussion Thread

[Brian]

hey boys, why don't we just wait a couple of days and let the men play it on the field and see who's better? :D

[Chris24Young]

Ok, then I could say the same about your offense and its 50 more runs than us...the Central doesnt have good pitching.

 

I'm just curious as I watch this drama unfold, precisely what sort of response were you expecting to your "Throw out the stats, this team knows how to win!" stance, especially coming into a message board dedicated to your team's first round opponents?

Just forget it, this will never get anywhere when like you said, this is a Cubs board. I know that, I'm not here to start ish, I just want to talk about the series and give you guys insight on the D'Backs and like to read about your guys' opinions while stating mine as well.

[Roast]

And..

 

What is your guys' definition of "luck" ??

 

Having a terrible offense and a decent pitching staff and ending up with 90 wins?

So explain how the Cubs are soooo superior to us. You guys only scored like 40 more runs than us, not whole lot.

 

 

We have the 7th best SP ERA.

.5 behind CHC

.6 from being the 2nd best in MLB.

 

Do you realize that that's quite a bit?

Not really when you're 90-72 compared to 85-77 in the best division in all of MLB

 

 

WHAAAAATTTTT?

 

Ever heard of the AL east?

[VanceJergins]

And..

 

What is your guys' definition of "luck" ??

 

Having a terrible offense and a decent pitching staff and ending up with 90 wins?

So explain how the Cubs are soooo superior to us. You guys only scored like 40 more runs than us, not whole lot.

 

 

We have the 7th best SP ERA.

.5 behind CHC

.6 from being the 2nd best in MLB.

 

Do you realize that that's quite a bit?

Not really when you're 90-72 compared to 85-77 in the best division in all of MLB

 

Hmmm....I'm trying to figure out if what you said is at all related.....I'm thinking not.

[Roast]

Ok, then I could say the same about your offense and its 50 more runs than us...the Central doesnt have good pitching.

 

I'm just curious as I watch this drama unfold, precisely what sort of response were you expecting to your "Throw out the stats, this team knows how to win!" stance, especially coming into a message board dedicated to your team's first round opponents?

Just forget it, this will never get anywhere when like you said, this is a Cubs board. I know that, I'm not here to start ish, I just want to talk about the series and give you guys insight on the D'Backs and like to read about your guys' opinions while stating mine as well.

 

Thats fine; but just a little advice. Things like "throwing stats out the window" won't get you far around here. Before a series starts, that's all we have to go on is stats. And it's not like people just randomly make up these "stats." They are simply numerical accounts of things that have actually happened.

 

Sure, we can talk about non-fact-based things such as a "team knowing how to win" (whatever the hell that means). In that case:

 

Theriot has more grit in his left shoelace than your entire team does!

 

See? Didn't really accomplish anything.

[Chris24Young]

And..

 

What is your guys' definition of "luck" ??

 

Having a terrible offense and a decent pitching staff and ending up with 90 wins?

So explain how the Cubs are soooo superior to us. You guys only scored like 40 more runs than us, not whole lot.

 

 

We have the 7th best SP ERA.

.5 behind CHC

.6 from being the 2nd best in MLB.

 

Do you realize that that's quite a bit?

Not really when you're 90-72 compared to 85-77 in the best division in all of MLB

 

 

WHAAAAATTTTT?

 

Ever heard of the AL east?

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Sure, we can talk about non-fact-based things such as a "team knowing how to win" (whatever the hell that means). In that case:

 

Theriot has more grit in his left shoelace than your entire team does!

Wait, isn't that a fact? :D

[Chris24Young]

Ok, then I could say the same about your offense and its 50 more runs than us...the Central doesnt have good pitching.

 

I'm just curious as I watch this drama unfold, precisely what sort of response were you expecting to your "Throw out the stats, this team knows how to win!" stance, especially coming into a message board dedicated to your team's first round opponents?

Just forget it, this will never get anywhere when like you said, this is a Cubs board. I know that, I'm not here to start ish, I just want to talk about the series and give you guys insight on the D'Backs and like to read about your guys' opinions while stating mine as well.

 

Thats fine; but just a little advice. Things like "throwing stats out the window" won't get you far around here. Before a series starts, that's all we have to go on is stats. And it's not like people just randomly make up these "stats." They are simply numerical accounts of things that have actually happened.

 

Sure, we can talk about non-fact-based things such as a "team knowing how to win" (whatever the hell that means). In that case:

 

Theriot has more grit in his left shoelace than your entire team does!

 

See? Didn't really accomplish anything.

I know, but you guys are bringing up the same thing that has been brought up since July. Pythag will eventually catch up to them...uh, wrooong.

[BCVM22]

Sure, we can talk about non-fact-based things such as a "team knowing how to win" (whatever the hell that means). In that case:

 

Theriot has more grit in his left shoelace than your entire team does!

Wait, isn't that a fact? :D

 

Geovany Soto has more grit, heart, hustle, moxy and knowledge of winning in his throwing hand than the Diamondbacks do on their entire roster. Throw out the stats, I know this is the truth.

[CubinNY]

Playoffs are a crapshoot. Any team that gets in has a chance to win it all. I like the Cubs chances as well as any other NL team. I'm not going to predict anything, but as long as Lou doesn't go into vet fetish mode the Cubs should be ok.

 

I can hardly wait.

[Chris24Young]

Sure, we can talk about non-fact-based things such as a "team knowing how to win" (whatever the hell that means). In that case:

 

Theriot has more grit in his left shoelace than your entire team does!

Wait, isn't that a fact? :D

 

Geovany Soto has more grit, heart, hustle, moxy and knowledge of winning in his throwing hand than the Diamondbacks do on their entire roster. Throw out the stats, I know this is the truth.

Do you know his % of throwing out runners? Probably a small sample size...

[David]

Flukes can last a whole season. Let's see if the D'Backs (as presently constructed) come close to 90 wins next year. Then maybe I'll believe they are somehow the exception to the rule.

[BCVM22]

Do you know his % of throwing out runners? Probably a small sample size...

 

Hey, you throw out your stats, I'll throw out mine.

 

Geovany Soto.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I'm not going to predict anything, but as long as Lou doesn't go into vet fetish mode the Cubs should be ok.

Craig Monroe shines in the playoffs dude.

[C.C.]

Cubs sweep this series. I have no doubt. The series won't even be close.

[jjgman21]

Just forget it, this will never get anywhere when like you said, this is a Cubs board. I know that, I'm not here to start ish, I just want to talk about the series and give you guys insight on the D'Backs and like to read about your guys' opinions while stating mine as well.

 

why? I thought you were making great progress convincing us that the DBacks were going to win this because they know how to win.

 

my opinion is this

 

Lee >>>> Jackson

DeRo >>>>> Augie

Theriot < Drew

Aram >>>> Reynolds

Soriano >>> Byrnes

Young < Jones

Floyd/Murton >>>> Upton

Soto >> Snyder

Kendal << Snyder

 

Z < Webb

Lilly >> Davis

Hill >>> Livan

 

Dempster << Valverde

Howry = Pena

Marmol >>> Lyon

Wuertz/Wood < Slaten/Cruz

[Chris24Young]

Do you know his % of throwing out runners? Probably a small sample size...

 

Hey, you throw out your stats, I'll throw out mine.

 

Geovany Soto.

I meant the whole pythag stat. We obviously didn't play to that.

[Roast]

And..

 

What is your guys' definition of "luck" ??

 

Having a terrible offense and a decent pitching staff and ending up with 90 wins?

So explain how the Cubs are soooo superior to us. You guys only scored like 40 more runs than us, not whole lot.

 

 

We have the 7th best SP ERA.

.5 behind CHC

.6 from being the 2nd best in MLB.

 

Do you realize that that's quite a bit?

Not really when you're 90-72 compared to 85-77 in the best division in all of MLB

 

 

WHAAAAATTTTT?

 

Ever heard of the AL east?

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

[jjgman21]

Do you know his % of throwing out runners? Probably a small sample size...

 

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[jjgman21]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

[Chris24Young]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

Brewers had a chance to tie by winning two straight vs a depleted Padre team, IIRC. They went on to win their last two games, it could have resulted in a tiebreaker. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard. It may not have necessarily been backing in, but getting swept in FLA could have been fatal.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

Brewers had a chance to tie by winning two straight vs a depleted Padre team, IIRC. They went on to win their last two games, it could have resulted in a tiebreaker. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard.

 

The Cubs also could've won the division by 10 games if they had pulled out a game they didn't win every other week or so.

 

The Cubs never had a huge lead in the division, of course they could've been in a different situation with the results of a couple games swapped.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

Brewers had a chance to tie by winning two straight vs a depleted Padre team, IIRC. They went on to win their last two games, it could have resulted in a tiebreaker. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard. It may not have necessarily been backing in, but getting swept in FLA could have been fatal.

 

The Cubs lead never shrunk below 1 1/2 games in the final week, IIRC.

[Chris24Young]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

Brewers had a chance to tie by winning two straight vs a depleted Padre team, IIRC. They went on to win their last two games, it could have resulted in a tiebreaker. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard. It may not have necessarily been backing in, but getting swept in FLA could have been fatal.

 

The Cubs lead never shrunk below 1 1/2 games in the final week, IIRC.

Yea, but you guys lost vs. FLA one night, MIL followed as well, same with the next night. You would have thought with only a week left, they would have stepped it up and taken advantage of your guys' losses. Apparently not, better team won the division.

[Roast]

You're probably right, but 4 teams over .500 when LA was a bunch over .500 not too long ago.

It's easily the best in the NL.

We won the toughest division.

The Cubs got lucky as well. Milwaukee could have EASILY been tied in the Central had they not bent over for SD, you guys got swept by FLA. We both backed into the playoffs, both teams should be fortunate it didn't come down to a tiebreaker.

 

This myth needs to die RIGHT NOW.

 

I'm completely sick of hearing it. Yeah, we got swept by Florida and it was pathetic...however, we did NOT back into the playoffs. The cubs have gone 13-7 in their last 20 games. That's hardly "backing"

 

backing in?

 

I think not

 

crushing

Brewers had a chance to tie by winning two straight vs a depleted Padre team, IIRC. They went on to win their last two games, it could have resulted in a tiebreaker. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard. It may not have necessarily been backing in, but getting swept in FLA could have been fatal.

 

So, what you're saying is, if things would have turned out differently, then things would have turned out differently?

 

Wow, great observation.

 

And what if the cubs DIDNT get swept by the marlins? That's just the same as saying if the Brewers could have beat the padres.

 

You seem to like to deal with hypotheticals and non-fact-based statements an awful lot.