AL Cy Young?

[HoopsCubs]

Carmona, Lackey, Beckett or Sabathia?

[Mephistopheles]

carmona better not win it

[Outshined_One]

My gut is it'll be Beckett, but it should be someone else.

[Mephistopheles]

in all seriousness every year its Santana and this year is no exception. Hes got my vote.

[Guest]

Yeah, it should be Johan.

[TruffleShuffle]

whoever has the most wins

[JimSorgi]

whoever has the most wins

and whoever has the best team

[imb]

Carmona? Seriously? He shouldn't even be a candidate.

 

I'd vote for Santana.

[VVMattVV]

in all seriousness every year its Santana and this year is no exception. Hes got my vote.

 

I still can't believe Colon won it over him a few years back, Santana should have each Cy Young since 04.

[rawaction]

Beckett will win. I wish Bedard had stayed healthy down the stretch. He may deserve it anyway. Would have led the league in Ks, BAA, and pretty close in WHIP and ERA.

[imb]

in all seriousness every year its Santana and this year is no exception. Hes got my vote.

 

I still can't believe Colon won it over him a few years back, Santana should have each Cy Young since 04.

 

Fun fact. Until this season, a Red Sox or Twins pitcher has lead the league in ERA+ every year since Roger Clemens (176) in 1998 with Toronto.

 

Pedro Martinez (four times), Johan Santana (three times) and...Joe Mays.

[Radar3454]

Carmona? Seriously? He shouldn't even be a candidate.

 

I'd vote for Santana.

 

Why shouldn't he be a candidate? I don't think he should win but I think he is top 5.

[soccer10k]

Why not Fausto Carmona?

 

I'm not saying he's been the best or should win it, but why the sentiment that he shouldn't even be a candidate?

 

EDIT: He does have the best ERA+ in the AL.

 

And IMB answered the question in the next post.

Edited September 23, 2007 by soccer10k

[imb]

Carmona? Seriously? He shouldn't even be a candidate.

 

I'd vote for Santana.

 

Why shouldn't he be a candidate? I don't think he should win but I think he is top 5.

 

I can go along with top 5, but the distance from a guy like Santana to Carmona is so huge that he really shouldn't even be close.

[soccer10k]

I'd probably vote for Beckett: 4th in ERA, 4th in WHIP, 2nd in ERA+ in the AL.

[Radar3454]

Not this year IMO

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I need to watch more baseball -- never heard of Carmona before this thread

[TruffleShuffle]

Santana should win most years, but he hasn't pitched that well in the last month. I'd probably go with Sabathia; he's #1 in VORP and has a solid K rate.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Bedard if he had stayed healthy; seeing as that he didn't, I'll go with Johan.

 

Regardless, Beckett's going to win and we all know it.

[Mizzou]

There's next to zero chance that a guy with a 15-13 record wins the Cy Young over a guy who is 20-6.

[treebird]

There's next to zero chance that a guy with a 15-13 record wins the Cy Young over a guy who is 20-6.

 

and that's stupid

[imb]

There's next to zero chance that a guy with a 15-13 record wins the Cy Young over a guy who is 20-6.

 

and that's stupid

 

If he wanted a cy young so bad he should have convinced his team to score more runs for him

[Have a seat, Neifi]

I'm sure the list is out there somewhere, but the worst W/L record I can recall a Cy Young winner have was Kevin Brown back in '96 when he won with a 17-11 record. Of course, his 214 ERA+ can speak to that. :shock:

 

 

 

Edited to add: And of course I mean W/L for a non-reliever winning the Cy.

[DiamondMind]

Winner: CC Sabathia

2nd: Josh Beckett

3rd: Fausto Carmona

[DiamondMind]

 

and that's stupid

 

It's not stupid. I know you want to get into an argument about the true value of W-L, but really, 15-13? Not happening, and even you have to concede that. The mass population would revolt.