9/22 - Pirates (Duke) vs. Cubs (Hill) - WGN - 12:05

[CubmanPi]

Good God, I love DLee when he's on.

[inari]

Damn you Freddy Sanchez. I thought that was easily ticketed for center field.

[ninetynineplus]

RAMI RAMI RAMI! c'mon!

[Outshined_One]

Holy crap that was a great play.

[erik316wttn]

Dang, Pirates look like a bunch of gold glovers today, minus that throwing error.

[Mizzou]

The big three is doing it all today.

 

And I know it's a meaningless stat, but that 100 RBI line always looks nice.

 

RBI is not meaningless.

 

When it comes to evaluating an individual player's performance, yes, it pretty much is.

 

because the stats show that batters are no better in "clutch" situations than in "nonclutch" situations.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AiOdIGbve4WS2MzSUeKPdn6FCLcF

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AtxcXjhol3bdxrEebElBtkCFCLcF?year=2006&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Amw.C6HHjgFt5wyeyBBVp1iFCLcF?year=2005&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Aki4QRrJIYdEN9f6.fHIaI.FCLcF?year=2004&type=Batting

 

accept the stats show Aramis is better in clutch situations year after year.

 

It's simply a statistical anomaly. No correlation has ever been shown in any player, ever. It's completely random.

Umm, he just showed a direct correlation with Aramis.

 

except once again, its an anomaly. BA with RISP isn't a predictive stat.

When you have a guy who is consistently better in certain situations year after year, then yes, you can look at that and logically conclude that it's likely to continue.

[jjgman21]

the Cubs should have about 9 runs with the way they have hit the ball today., the Bucs none. and what will brewcrew fan board say?

 

two errors! how lucky!

[David]

God, it still sickens me that we're paying almost $20 mil/year for a player whose OBP is barely 30 pts better than his BA. That is SO Jim Hendry.

 

funny youd say that right after he walked.

 

It's my way of making a statement about the fact that small sample sizes are meaningless.

 

 

That, or I was about 2 minutes behind on TiVo. You decide.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Duke at 75. I had heard his PC would be 75-80, so we'll see what transpires.

[soccer10k]

Come on Murt.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Murton loads 'em up with a walk!

[jaydee]

murton looks a lot better when not swinging

[CubmanPi]

Murton walked to load them up for

 

Geovany Soto.

[jjgman21]

now Monroe? we keep saying it, but now would really be the time for that first Cubbie dinger.

 

edit - never mind. come on pretty boy.

Edited September 22, 2007 by jjgman21

[soccer10k]

Get the big hit, Geo.

[David]

Murton's numbers have to be pretty freakin solid lately.

[erik316wttn]

Murt walks, Geovany Motherf'ing Soto at the plate with the bases loaded.

[Jazz]

The big three is doing it all today.

 

And I know it's a meaningless stat, but that 100 RBI line always looks nice.

 

RBI is not meaningless.

 

When it comes to evaluating an individual player's performance, yes, it pretty much is.

 

because the stats show that batters are no better in "clutch" situations than in "nonclutch" situations.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AiOdIGbve4WS2MzSUeKPdn6FCLcF

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AtxcXjhol3bdxrEebElBtkCFCLcF?year=2006&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Amw.C6HHjgFt5wyeyBBVp1iFCLcF?year=2005&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Aki4QRrJIYdEN9f6.fHIaI.FCLcF?year=2004&type=Batting

 

accept the stats show Aramis is better in clutch situations year after year.

 

It's simply a statistical anomaly. No correlation has ever been shown in any player, ever. It's completely random.

Umm, he just showed a direct correlation with Aramis.

 

except once again, its an anomaly. BA with RISP isn't a predictive stat.

When you have a guy who is consistently better in certain situations year after year, then yes, you can look at that and logically conclude that it's likely to continue.

 

no. because you cannot logically conclude that hes going to have runners on whenever hes batting. Right now you are arguing that the idea of "clutch" is real. I don't think this game thread is appropriate for this discussion so i'll leave it at that.

[inari]

I'm eagerly anticipating some justified Soto lovin'.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

79 pitches for Duke. If the reports on his PC were correct, he should be done after this frame.

[Ender]

Its actually natural to have a higher OPS with RISP, the league as a whole is .020 higher in OPS with RISP. Most of it comes from elevated BB rates though.

[ninetynineplus]

The big three is doing it all today.

 

And I know it's a meaningless stat, but that 100 RBI line always looks nice.

 

RBI is not meaningless.

 

When it comes to evaluating an individual player's performance, yes, it pretty much is.

 

because the stats show that batters are no better in "clutch" situations than in "nonclutch" situations.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AiOdIGbve4WS2MzSUeKPdn6FCLcF

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AtxcXjhol3bdxrEebElBtkCFCLcF?year=2006&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Amw.C6HHjgFt5wyeyBBVp1iFCLcF?year=2005&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Aki4QRrJIYdEN9f6.fHIaI.FCLcF?year=2004&type=Batting

 

accept the stats show Aramis is better in clutch situations year after year.

 

It's simply a statistical anomaly. No correlation has ever been shown in any player, ever. It's completely random.

Umm, he just showed a direct correlation with Aramis.

 

except once again, its an anomaly. BA with RISP isn't a predictive stat.

When you have a guy who is consistently better in certain situations year after year, then yes, you can look at that and logically conclude that it's likely to continue.

 

no. because you cannot logically conclude that hes going to have runners on whenever hes batting. Right now you are arguing that the idea of "clutch" is real. I don't think this game thread is appropriate for this discussion so i'll leave it at that.

 

possibly time to utilize the *snip* method.....

[Jazz]

Soto GS plz

[erik316wttn]

The big three is doing it all today.

 

And I know it's a meaningless stat, but that 100 RBI line always looks nice.

 

RBI is not meaningless.

 

When it comes to evaluating an individual player's performance, yes, it pretty much is.

 

because the stats show that batters are no better in "clutch" situations than in "nonclutch" situations.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AiOdIGbve4WS2MzSUeKPdn6FCLcF

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=AtxcXjhol3bdxrEebElBtkCFCLcF?year=2006&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Amw.C6HHjgFt5wyeyBBVp1iFCLcF?year=2005&type=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6014/situational;_ylt=Aki4QRrJIYdEN9f6.fHIaI.FCLcF?year=2004&type=Batting

 

accept the stats show Aramis is better in clutch situations year after year.

 

It's simply a statistical anomaly. No correlation has ever been shown in any player, ever. It's completely random.

Umm, he just showed a direct correlation with Aramis.

 

except once again, its an anomaly. BA with RISP isn't a predictive stat.

When you have a guy who is consistently better in certain situations year after year, then yes, you can look at that and logically conclude that it's likely to continue.

 

no. because you cannot logically conclude that hes going to have runners on whenever hes batting. Right now you are arguing that the idea of "clutch" is real. I don't think this game thread is appropriate for this discussion so i'll leave it at that.

 

But, it's proven that he's consistently a better hitter with runners on base, i.e, BA w/RISP, a stat widely considered around here to be "meaningless" when this proves that it isn't for some players.

 

But yes, someone should start a new thread about this if they wish.

[inari]

Geovany swung at ball two. :(