Soriano career/season numbers

[frostwyrm]

Season:   .293 .334 .507 .841
Career:   .281 .326 .510 .836 

 

He's back to his career norms now.

 

Just sayin'.

[Chocolate Milk]

Season:   .293 .334 .507 .841
Career:   .281 .326 .510 .836 

 

He's back to his career norms now.

 

Just sayin'.

 

He's been slumping. Less than two weeks ago he was pushing a 900 OPS. He has hit only 1 homer this month but he tends to hit them in bunches, as we've seen. I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch about a slump. I doubt you thought you were wrong about him when he was raking in June. He's streaky. Posting his numbers on either side of a streak isn't going to tell you much. I expect him to surpass his career line this year.

 

He's probably not worth the money we gave him, but I'm less concerned about that than many around here.

[frostwyrm]

Season:   .293 .334 .507 .841
Career:   .281 .326 .510 .836 

 

He's back to his career norms now.

 

Just sayin'.

 

He's been slumping. Less than two weeks ago he was pushing a 900 OPS. He has hit only 1 homer this month but he tends to hit them in bunches, as we've seen. I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch about a slump. I doubt you thought you were wrong about him when he was raking in June.

 

He has a history of being able to put up monster months like we saw in June. Unfortunately he puts up terrible months too. None of what he's done so far should have surprised anyone.

[Chocolate Milk]

Season:   .293 .334 .507 .841
Career:   .281 .326 .510 .836 

 

He's back to his career norms now.

 

Just sayin'.

 

He's been slumping. Less than two weeks ago he was pushing a 900 OPS. He has hit only 1 homer this month but he tends to hit them in bunches, as we've seen. I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch about a slump. I doubt you thought you were wrong about him when he was raking in June.

 

He has a history of being able to put up monster months like we saw in June. Unfortunately he puts up terrible months too. None of what he's done so far should have surprised anyone.

 

I don't think it has.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think most anyone that did even a little research into him would realize he's streaky...the problem is that this team's lack of power overall makes his inevitable slumps that much more of a problem, plus his lackluster and "head in the clouds" defense lately is just mkaing it that much more frustrating.

[JGalt73]

The fact that his recently found plate discipline has evaporated is troublesome, but not necessarily unexpected. Without it, though, his leadoff value plummets.

[anabiono]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

[Sarcastic]

I doubt that Pie is the reason for Soriano's hot streaks. He is just a streaky player. He had his best year before he even met Pie.

 

There was always the strong possibility that Soriano would regress to his career numbers. Hendry took a stupid risk. It hasn't completely backfired yet. Another hot month and he could be on top again. We'll see.

[Skyballer]

I think most anyone that did even a little research into him would realize he's streaky...the problem is that this team's lack of power overall makes his inevitable slumps that much more of a problem, plus his lackluster and "head in the clouds" defense lately is just mkaing it that much more frustrating.

Yea, its' getting ridiculous. Particularly when there's a ground ball and he's got to pick it up and try and throw the runner out.

[frostwyrm]

The fact that his recently found plate discipline has evaporated is troublesome, but not necessarily unexpected. Without it, though, his leadoff value plummets.

 

His newfound plate discipline was always an illusion. Wish Tim had search enabled so I could just copy my old posts on this. What happened in Washington was Soriano was pitched around with men on base because the Nats lineup sucked. With DLee and Aramis in the same lineup teams have to pitch to Soriano. He doesn't walk much when that happens. If we had a more scary #2 hitter than Theriot then Soriano would walk even less.

 

Soriano 2006:  67 total walks

                  AB   BB
None On:           435  25  
Runners On:        212  42 
Scoring Position:  117  36 

[abuck1220]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

 

are you kidding?

 

if the front office did bring up pie because they thought it'd make soriano play better, i'd be really pissed.

[Jazz]

soriano saw this thread and responded.

[frostwyrm]

soriano saw this thread and responded.

 

Yeah it's funny. I should badmouth him more often.

[anabiono]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

 

are you kidding?

 

if the front office did bring up pie because they thought it'd make soriano play better, i'd be really pissed.

 

why, do you not like pie?

[Soul]

I think most anyone that did even a little research into him would realize he's streaky...the problem is that this team's lack of power overall makes his inevitable slumps that much more of a problem, plus his lackluster and "head in the clouds" defense lately is just mkaing it that much more frustrating.

Yea, its' getting ridiculous. Particularly when there's a ground ball and he's got to pick it up and try and throw the runner out.

 

...especially since he actually *can* throw runners out, provided he doesn't fumble around out there.

 

Great game for him tonight at the plate. I hope it sparks another hot streak, we really need him to start producing again. His hot streaks are amazing to watch -- no denying that.

[abuck1220]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

 

are you kidding?

 

if the front office did bring up pie because they thought it'd make soriano play better, i'd be really pissed.

 

why, do you not like pie?

 

i like him fine, but bringing him up because you think he's going to somehow make soriano hit better is pretty ridiculous. if our gm really believed in stuff like that, i'd be real concerned.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

That would make Pie the Jack Haley to the Cubs' Dennis Rodman.

[anabiono]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

 

are you kidding?

 

if the front office did bring up pie because they thought it'd make soriano play better, i'd be really pissed.

 

why, do you not like pie?

 

i like him fine, but bringing him up because you think he's going to somehow make soriano hit better is pretty ridiculous. if our gm really believed in stuff like that, i'd be real concerned.

 

why is it such a bad idea to bring him up because of the way he affects the team's chemistry (apparently)...i mean...he really hasn't been given a chance this year...he most definitely hasn't been given a chance to hang out and ride through any slumps...

 

i don't know...the kid is electric and i want him up here...but by me saying that i wasn't saying that the front office would pull him up solely because of that...the kid's skill's speak clearly enough for themselves, he also comes packing interesting intangibles though...

[Exile on Waveland]

The fact that his recently found plate discipline has evaporated is troublesome, but not necessarily unexpected. Without it, though, his leadoff value plummets.

 

His newfound plate discipline was always an illusion. Wish Tim had search enabled so I could just copy my old posts on this. What happened in Washington was Soriano was pitched around with men on base because the Nats lineup sucked. With DLee and Aramis in the same lineup teams have to pitch to Soriano. He doesn't walk much when that happens. If we had a more scary #2 hitter than Theriot then Soriano would walk even less.

 

Soriano 2006:  67 total walks

                  AB   BB
None On:           435  25  
Runners On:        212  42 
Scoring Position:  117  36 

 

Wait, so protection matters now?

[seanimal]

Somebody said the dirty word.

[Magnetic Curses]

i'll echo a sentiment that abuck has brought up before: if soriano actually knew what he was doing at the plate, he'd be unstoppable. unfortunately, he doesn't, he's impulsive and impatient. you can get him out consistently with the slider in the dirt.

 

until he corrects that part of his game, he'll always be a very streaky player.

[Exile on Waveland]

i'll echo a sentiment that abuck has brought up before: if soriano actually knew what he was doing at the plate, he'd be unstoppable. unfortunately, he doesn't, he's impulsive and impatient. you can get him out consistently with the slider in the dirt.

 

until he corrects that part of his game, he'll always be a very streaky player.

 

I'll be a second echo: Soriano is a very talented player, but a prodigal one. He could be much better than he is, and he already is quite good. Alas, he'll remain streaky. Hopefully, he'll have another hot streak to help propel the Cubs into first place, then another in the playoffs.

[abuck1220]

who here thinks the pie/soriano connection is really as strong as it seems?

 

if it really is...do you think the buffoons in the front office have any idea about it...

 

if bringing pie back up to stay is a sure fire way to galvanize soriano into the allstar we need at this stage of the season

 

what in the world is the hold up?

 

oh wait...jones

 

i am starting to get a bad feeling about this season

 

are you kidding?

 

if the front office did bring up pie because they thought it'd make soriano play better, i'd be really pissed.

 

why, do you not like pie?

 

i like him fine, but bringing him up because you think he's going to somehow make soriano hit better is pretty ridiculous. if our gm really believed in stuff like that, i'd be real concerned.

 

why is it such a bad idea to bring him up because of the way he affects the team's chemistry (apparently)

 

 

because i don't believe in that stuff.

 

i'm not saying i'd complain if he came up...he'd probably be better than jones...but the reason i'd want him up is for his actual production, not for the superfriend power he'd bring.

[Sarcastic]

The fact that his recently found plate discipline has evaporated is troublesome, but not necessarily unexpected. Without it, though, his leadoff value plummets.

 

His newfound plate discipline was always an illusion. Wish Tim had search enabled so I could just copy my old posts on this. What happened in Washington was Soriano was pitched around with men on base because the Nats lineup sucked. With DLee and Aramis in the same lineup teams have to pitch to Soriano. He doesn't walk much when that happens. If we had a more scary #2 hitter than Theriot then Soriano would walk even less.

 

Soriano 2006:  67 total walks

                  AB   BB
None On:           435  25  
Runners On:        212  42 
Scoring Position:  117  36 

 

Wait, so protection matters now?

 

I don't think his point was that Soriano was being protected by the Nationals lineup last year. It has to do with intentional walks, which increased quite a bit. That was just a round about way of saying he had been pitched around a lot.

[TheDude]

Should probably wait until the end of the season for this thread's conclusion. Three weeks ago, as another pointed out already, you couldn't make the claim that he was at career norms again.

 

In the last 2 days (since this thread was started) he has raised his OPS over 20 points.

 

He's not going to get put up 40 HRs and over .900 OPS, but it is within reason to think he might get 28 HR and an .870 OPS.