Soriano as leadoff.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

derrek "mr singles" lee would be a great leadoff man.

 

Or a number two hitter...

or 3, where he is and perfect

 

He lacks the power that is usually preferred in a number three hitter.

[Andy]

I'm not a fan of Soriano leading off. I'd prefer to use his power later in the order b/c I do feel it's wasted in the #1 spot (Andy - you're not really arguing that we should have him hit first so that the 20% or so of the time that one of the 8 or 9 hitters is on base, he can drive them in, are you?).

Oh, I don't think that's a valid reason for putting him there. Just saying that since he is there, it's a nice thing to have.

 

If I knew for certain that Fontenot was the real deal, I'd put him there. Since I don't, Soriano might be the best option we've got.

[Skyballer]

I'm not a fan of Soriano leading off. I'd prefer to use his power later in the order b/c I do feel it's wasted in the #1 spot (Andy - you're not really arguing that we should have him hit first so that the 20% or so of the time that one of the 8 or 9 hitters is on base, he can drive them in, are you?).

Oh, I don't think that's a valid reason for putting him there. Just saying that since he is there, it's a nice thing to have.

 

If I knew for certain that Fontenot was the real deal, I'd put him there. Since I don't, Soriano might be the best option we've got.

 

Why not just give Fontenot a chance 'till he proves otherwise.

[rocket]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

[Skyballer]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

[Andy]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

The thing is, the numbers indicate Soriano doesn't do well with runners on. Who's to say he hits those homers if there's someone on base?

[rocket]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

 

in 2006 juan pierre gets a bunt hit, steals second, todd walker hits a grounder advancing him to third, derrek lee hits a sac fly, and everyone is ecstatic that juan pierre did his job and the cubs scored a run, even though it cost 2 outs.

 

soriano says f that noise and hits a homerun to open the game. 0 outs are used, but soriano just wasted a homerun.

 

like i said, i don't know what his deal is, but soriano is statistically proven to be more comfortable leading off. if you move him down the order, you're sacrificing production and you're probably not going to get many 3 run homeruns that you crave.

[CubmanPi]

No problems at all with Sori leading off. Yes, there are defficiencies elsewhere in the lineup, but fix that with better personnel, not by shuffling the lineup even more than it has been this year. With the way Jones and Izturis have been getting benched the way we've all been craving for so long, you can bet Hendry's going to try to do SOMETHING to improve the roster. Since we all agree that addition by subtraction is the case with both of those two, anything at all of any value is a step up. Until they leave, they sit on the bench, and the Cubs win. Soriano batting leadoff is justifiably WAY down on the list of concerns for this team.

[Skyballer]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

The thing is, the numbers indicate Soriano doesn't do well with runners on. Who's to say he hits those homers if there's someone on base?

ah so you're your saying we have a 40-home run guy who can't do crap in the clutch. oh wait why'd we get him?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Leave Soriano where he is and tell Jim to go out and get better hitters for the middle of the order and we'll be fine.

 

I think having no power from our number three hitter is a bigger problem than having too much power from our lead-off hitter.

[Skyballer]

Leave Soriano where he is and tell Jim to go out and get better hitters for the middle of the order and we'll be fine.

 

I think having no power from our number three hitter is a bigger problem than having too much power from our lead-off hitter.

so bat sori third and problem solved

[rocket]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

The thing is, the numbers indicate Soriano doesn't do well with runners on. Who's to say he hits those homers if there's someone on base?

ah so you're your saying we have a 40-home run guy who can't do crap in the clutch. oh wait why'd we get him?

 

remember soriano's unclutch walkoff a few days ago?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Leave Soriano where he is and tell Jim to go out and get better hitters for the middle of the order and we'll be fine.

 

I think having no power from our number three hitter is a bigger problem than having too much power from our lead-off hitter.

so bat sori third and problem solved

 

And hit Lee where? Lead-off?

 

Just leave things the way they are an either acquire a true number three or number five hitter and we'd be ok.

 

I think it may be more important to insure the best hitters get the most at bats. In that case, Soriano at lead-off makes a lot of sense.

[Skyballer]

generally i'd say no. but the fact is soriano is obviously more comfortable hitting #1, for whatever reason, and the statistics back that up. plus, he's been arguably the best cubs offensive player, and he's getting the most at-bats.

 

are solo home runs really a bad thing anyways?

They are when you can hit 3-run homeruns.

The thing is, the numbers indicate Soriano doesn't do well with runners on. Who's to say he hits those homers if there's someone on base?

ah so you're your saying we have a 40-home run guy who can't do crap in the clutch. oh wait why'd we get him?

 

remember soriano's unclutch walkoff a few days ago?

ahh yes the1-6 day, how about Fontenots 5-5 day, that's clutch.

[Andy]

Holy colossal avatar Batman.

[Skyballer]

Holy colossal avatar Batman.

i changed it. i had to resize

[rocket]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

[Skyballer]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

[B]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

 

No, it's still ginormous.

[rocket]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

 

yay, it worked.

 

i agree 1 for 6 isn't a good day, but that one hit being in the bottom of the 9th with the bases loaded is clutch.

[Skyballer]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

 

No, it's still ginormous.

darn on my computer it's down to size, any ideas as to what to do

[abuck1220]

is it too late to get this guy in the nsbb tourney?

[Skyballer]

is it too late to get this guy in the nsbb tourney?

is that a joke i've been here for like two days, i don't deserve it.

[jkrapfl]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

 

So if it's so easy to get at least 2 hits in 6 at bats then why doesn't everyone have at least a .333 batting average? And anyone that doesn't, they must not be "clutch".

[B]

for the love of god change your avatar

 

anyways, isn't that the definition of clutch? getting a hit when it's important? wouldn't the other at-bats be unimportant?

 

and soriano had a "clutch" 5 for 5 day on june 4th

i changed it, did it work?

and yes 5-5 is clutch no matter how you put it still 1-6 isn't a good day even with a game winner

 

No, it's still ginormous.

darn on my computer it's down to size, any ideas as to what to do

 

take it off completely would probably be one solution.