Barrett should not catch Zambrano

[soccer10k]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

[Fred Hornkohl]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

I post that breakdown most every day in the worthless stats of the day schtick.

[Guest]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

I post that breakdown most every day in the worthless stats of the day schtick.

 

So you sold out to ESPN?

 

:shakes head in disappointment:

[Omar]

What about in the past couple years? With Bako, Blanco, and Miller?

[Drew Doughty]

What about in the past couple years? With Bako, Blanco, and Miller?

 

2006

Barrett: 672 OPS against

Blanco: 668 OPS against

Soto: 557 OPS against (one start)

 

2005

Barrett: 640 OPS against

Blanco: 617 OPS against

 

2004

Barrett: 650 OPS against

Bako: 671 OPS against (2 starts)

 

2003

Miller: 746 OPS against

Bako: 555 OPS against

 

Career

Barrett: 681 OPS against

Blanco: 660 OPS against

[sunnydoo]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

If my catcher was calling my game with an almost 8 run average, the very least thing i would do would be to punch him in the face and send him to the hospital.

 

Another great reason to hate Barrett, besides defensively sucking and a craptacular .246/.303 performance.

[soccer10k]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

I post that breakdown most every day in the worthless stats of the day schtick.

 

So you sold out to ESPN?

 

:shakes head in disappointment:

 

I thought you were better than that Fred.

[Tracer Bullet]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

If my catcher was calling my game with an almost 8 run average, the very least thing i would do would be to punch him in the face and send him to the hospital.

 

Another great reason to hate Barrett, besides defensively sucking and a craptacular .246/.303 performance.

 

You don't think Z shakes guys off and throws whatever the hell he wants at this point?

[RynoRules]

The solution here is simple:

 

Bring back Bako.

 

:wink:

[TruffleShuffle]

ESPN just showed a graphic that showed Z's stats this year when being caught by Barrett and when not being caught by Barrett:

 

With Barrett: 2-4, 7.58 ERA

Without Barrett 5-1, 2.64 ERA

 

If my catcher was calling my game with an almost 8 run average, the very least thing i would do would be to punch him in the face and send him to the hospital.

 

or maybe you could actually take responsibility for your own crappy pitching and not blame the guy you're throwing to

[Backtobanks]

With Zambrano pitching, you can go to the "defensive" catcher because Zambrano will make up for the lost offense that Barrett provides with his own hitting ability.

[Banedon]

I still think this is a fluke, but I'm ok with Hill catching Z the rest of the year.

[10man]

Agreed. Z caught Barrett a good one though. might've been a right hook

[Chocolate Milk]

Catcher's ERA is completely worthless.

[Chocolate Milk]

Another great reason to hate Barrett, besides defensively sucking and a craptacular .246/.303 performance.

 

Conveniently left out the .429 SLG He's sitting at a 91 OPS+ right now which is a little below average but he also has an .892 OPS in the month of June, so he's coming around. He's without a doubt our best option at catcher, unless you want to base your decision on worthless garbage like catcher's ERA.

[Mephistopheles]

um yay useless stats

[Sarcastic]

I would be OK with letting Barrett get most of his off days when Zambrano is pitching, but if you look at the larger sample size posted earlier, you can see that Zambrano has had plenty of success pitching to Barrett over the course of his career. Catcher's ERA is a pretty meaningless stat anyway.

[soccer10k]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

[Rob]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

 

Large variations and almost zero consistency. IE, Z was better with Barrett two seasons ago, almost dead even last year, and much worse with Barrett this season.

[Chocolate Milk]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

 

Large variations and almost zero consistency. IE, Z was better with Barrett two seasons ago, almost dead even last year, and much worse with Barrett this season.

 

I would like to see Z's stats broken out for the phases of the moon so we can pitch him when he really thrives.

[Chocolate Milk]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

 

Catcher's don't pitch?

 

Edit: Not meaning to come across as snippy. But obviously the biggest factors in a pitcher performance are, obviously the pitcher, but also the team he faces. What good is a stat that doesn't account for the fact that people are pitching against completely different teams?

[Fred Hornkohl]

 

I would like to see Z's stats broken out for the phases of the moon so we can pitch him when he really thrives.

 

I'll get started on that one right away !! :wink:

[Mizzou]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

When the difference is as drastic as it is in this instance, it's not worthless by any means.

[Chocolate Milk]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

When the difference is as drastic as it is in this instance, it's not worthless by any means.

 

Sure it is.

[Keener98]

Why is a catcher's ERA worthless?

When the difference is as drastic as it is in this instance, it's not worthless by any means.

 

So has Barret just suddenly became terrible then or what? Cause his past with Zambrano is pretty darn good.