Cotts down, Marshall up.

[jersey cubs fan]

But come on... Hasnt Eyre been a lot worse then him?

 

Overall, of course. But it can be argued pretty strongly that Eyre has been the better pitcher in May, and especially in the past week.

 

Eyre has the better track record and is pitching better right now. Cotts has a worse track record and is pitching worse right now.

 

That at least makes it a little more palatable.

 

In theory, Eyre could turn it around and put up a decent stretch until the end of the season. If everybody else was doing fine, then there is more pressure to release Eyre, but with another able scapegoat, they can justify keeping him around, for now.

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm not a fan of this move because Guzman was pitching fine in the starting rotation, Marshall sucked last year and is coming off a shoulder injury, and his strikeout rate was fairly low in his rehab starts. I'd have preferred that he spend another month in Iowa to work on his arm strength.

 

I wouldn't have minded Rapada for Cotts, though still you'd have the problem of having three lefties in the pen, two of whom can't get righties out, and the other one can't get anyone out. But really, the problem here is Eyre. He's dreadful, but he's a veteran and won't be sent down to the minors, and Hendry would be too embarassed to eat his contract at this point. So he's just wasting a spot on the 25-man roster with zero usefulness to the team.

[TruffleShuffle]

Overall, of course. But it can be argued pretty strongly that Eyre has been the better pitcher in May, and especially in the past week.

 

He's still been bad. He's allowed 13 baserunners in 7.1 innings, and has only struck out 3. I guess he's done a better job keeping the ball down, but given that he has a neutral GB/FB ratio during his career, I'm chalking that up to luck and/or small sample size.

[Shavo]

I'm pretty sure Cotts was sent down over Eyre because he has options.

[Omar]

In that case, I really hope Cotts understands.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not a fan of this move because Guzman was pitching fine in the starting rotation, Marshall sucked last year and is coming off a shoulder injury, and his strikeout rate was fairly low in his rehab starts. I'd have preferred that he spend another month in Iowa to work on his arm strength.

 

I wouldn't have minded Rapada for Cotts, though still you'd have the problem of having three lefties in the pen, two of whom can't get righties out, and the other one can't get anyone out. But really, the problem here is Eyre. He's dreadful, but he's a veteran and won't be sent down to the minors, and Hendry would be too embarassed to eat his contract at this point. So he's just wasting a spot on the 25-man roster with zero usefulness to the team.

 

I'm not a fan of the general direction of transactions going on right now. But I'm not upset about this move in particular. Considering Guzman is already in the pen, Marshall for Cotts was probably the best option.

 

I still don't get the point of Guzman to the bullpen. Although I'm pretty sure knee-jerk Lou is partially blaming Angel for the downfall against the Mets, and in punishing him for leaving the game early. They had made it pretty clear Guzman was going to get several starts when he first got the job, but that ended rather quickly.

[YearofDaCubs]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

[Drew Doughty]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

 

i don't think his velocity is down. how hard do you think he throws? he's never been a flamethrower, and i haven't noticed and marked difference this year.

[YearofDaCubs]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

 

i don't think his velocity is down. how hard do you think he throws? he's never been a flamethrower, and i haven't noticed and marked difference this year.

Actually, Howry used to be a flamethrower before he had arm injuries. He was throwing 93-94 last year, that isn't the case this year.

[RynoRules]

Meh. This was the big change? I don't get how this makes the team better.

[Guest]

Meh. This was the big change? I don't get how this makes the team better.

 

I think the big change was Dempster to the rotation and Guzman to closer but since Lou decided Guzman wasn't ready to close, he basically sent Gooz to the pen and called up Marshall.

[Drew Doughty]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

 

i don't think his velocity is down. how hard do you think he throws? he's never been a flamethrower, and i haven't noticed and marked difference this year.

Actually, Howry used to be a flamethrower before he had arm injuries. He was throwing 93-94 last year, that isn't the case this year.

 

I don't think that's right. I'm pretty sure he was throwing in the upper 80's/low 90's last year, which he's still doing this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

 

i don't think his velocity is down. how hard do you think he throws? he's never been a flamethrower, and i haven't noticed and marked difference this year.

Actually, Howry used to be a flamethrower before he had arm injuries. He was throwing 93-94 last year, that isn't the case this year.

 

I don't think that's right. I'm pretty sure he was throwing in the upper 80's/low 90's last year, which he's still doing this year.

 

He was definitely not in the upper 80's. Howry wasn't a 99 MPH reliever, but he was regularly low to middle 90's.

[Drew Doughty]

Yeah Eyre should have been let go. Cotts had way more good games than Eyre did. Now I am seeing why you don't pay releivers as much as you did eyre and howry.

 

You definitely don't pay a reliever as much as you paid Eyre when he's been mediocre every year except for one. Howry, at least, has been a good pitcher for most of his career, and was excellent for two straight years before the Cubs signed him. He was still very good last year. I think he's had bad luck with a high BABIP against this year, and I still think he'll have a pretty good season unless last year's unnecessary workload damaged his arm.

Well, there is no doubt his velocity is a bit down from last year so who knows.

 

i don't think his velocity is down. how hard do you think he throws? he's never been a flamethrower, and i haven't noticed and marked difference this year.

Actually, Howry used to be a flamethrower before he had arm injuries. He was throwing 93-94 last year, that isn't the case this year.

 

I don't think that's right. I'm pretty sure he was throwing in the upper 80's/low 90's last year, which he's still doing this year.

 

He was definitely not in the upper 80's. Howry wasn't a 99 MPH reliever, but he was regularly low to middle 90's.

 

really? meh, maybe i'm thinking of someone else then.

[Jehrico]

I'm not a fan of this move because Guzman was pitching fine in the starting rotation, Marshall sucked last year and is coming off a shoulder injury, and his strikeout rate was fairly low in his rehab starts. I'd have preferred that he spend another month in Iowa to work on his arm strength.

 

I wouldn't have minded Rapada for Cotts, though still you'd have the problem of having three lefties in the pen, two of whom can't get righties out, and the other one can't get anyone out. But really, the problem here is Eyre. He's dreadful, but he's a veteran and won't be sent down to the minors, and Hendry would be too embarassed to eat his contract at this point. So he's just wasting a spot on the 25-man roster with zero usefulness to the team.

 

I'm not a fan of the general direction of transactions going on right now. But I'm not upset about this move in particular. Considering Guzman is already in the pen, Marshall for Cotts was probably the best option.

 

I still don't get the point of Guzman to the bullpen. Although I'm pretty sure knee-jerk Lou is partially blaming Angel for the downfall against the Mets, and in punishing him for leaving the game early. They had made it pretty clear Guzman was going to get several starts when he first got the job, but that ended rather quickly.

They are NOT punishing Guzman. :roll:

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm not a fan of this move because Guzman was pitching fine in the starting rotation, Marshall sucked last year and is coming off a shoulder injury, and his strikeout rate was fairly low in his rehab starts. I'd have preferred that he spend another month in Iowa to work on his arm strength.

 

I wouldn't have minded Rapada for Cotts, though still you'd have the problem of having three lefties in the pen, two of whom can't get righties out, and the other one can't get anyone out. But really, the problem here is Eyre. He's dreadful, but he's a veteran and won't be sent down to the minors, and Hendry would be too embarassed to eat his contract at this point. So he's just wasting a spot on the 25-man roster with zero usefulness to the team.

 

I'm not a fan of the general direction of transactions going on right now. But I'm not upset about this move in particular. Considering Guzman is already in the pen, Marshall for Cotts was probably the best option.

 

I still don't get the point of Guzman to the bullpen. Although I'm pretty sure knee-jerk Lou is partially blaming Angel for the downfall against the Mets, and in punishing him for leaving the game early. They had made it pretty clear Guzman was going to get several starts when he first got the job, but that ended rather quickly.

They are NOT punishing Guzman. :roll:

 

Maybe, maybe not. The one thing that's certain is that it was a bad move.

[Jehrico]

I'm not a fan of this move because Guzman was pitching fine in the starting rotation, Marshall sucked last year and is coming off a shoulder injury, and his strikeout rate was fairly low in his rehab starts. I'd have preferred that he spend another month in Iowa to work on his arm strength.

 

I wouldn't have minded Rapada for Cotts, though still you'd have the problem of having three lefties in the pen, two of whom can't get righties out, and the other one can't get anyone out. But really, the problem here is Eyre. He's dreadful, but he's a veteran and won't be sent down to the minors, and Hendry would be too embarassed to eat his contract at this point. So he's just wasting a spot on the 25-man roster with zero usefulness to the team.

 

I'm not a fan of the general direction of transactions going on right now. But I'm not upset about thiNs move in particular. Considering Guzman is already in the pen, Marshall for Cotts was probably the best option.

 

I still don't get the point of Guzman to the bullpen. Although I'm pretty sure knee-jerk Lou is partially blaming Angel for the downfall against the Mets, and in punishing him for leaving the game early. They had made it pretty clear Guzman was going to get several starts when he first got the job, but that ended rather quickly.

They are NOT punishing Guzman. :roll:

 

Maybe, maybe not. The one thing that's certain is that it was a bad move.

There's no maybe to it. Bad move, maybe. Probably. I'd like to see Guz become a successful starter as much as anyone else. But it isn't punishment.

[Mizzou]

But come on... Hasnt Eyre been a lot worse then him?

 

Yes, but Eyre's contract gets in the way. If he refuses to go on the DL, they either have to trade or release him. They aren't likely to be willing to eat that money for this year and next year unless they absolutely have to-they'd rather keep him, hope he gets better, and then either keep him or raise his trade value.

Can a player refuse to go on the DL?

[A New Era]

Meh. This was the big change? I don't get how this makes the team better.

 

Well it makes the bullpen better to have guzman in the pen. maybe we'll see less blown games with only 1-2 run advantage. having 2 fireballers like marmol and guzman could really be good.

[Coach C]

In that case, I really hope Cotts understands.

 

In other words, this organization doesn't understand what the heck they're doing.

 

They shipped out the wrong player. It should had been Eyre, regardless of contract or whatever else is in the way.

[sunnydoo]

Of the 3 lefties, i would have chosen Ohman b/c he needs the most work. But at this point, it doesnt really matter...not much difference between the 3- they all suck.

 

I am just glad Lou was able to talk some sense into Hendry about how stupid it is to have 3 lefties in the pen.

 

On a side note, i never have trusted Cotts. He is a lifelong Cardinals fan, which means he definitely has a screw loose somewhere.

[Shilzzz]

wth is the organization doing right now?

 

freaking weirdos. this makes NO sense.

[Illini Iceman]

In that case, I really hope Cotts understands.

 

In other words, this organization doesn't understand what the heck they're doing.

 

They shipped out the wrong player. It should had been Eyre, regardless of contract or whatever else is in the way.

 

Zambrano has been pretty bad too so maybe they should DFA or send him to the minors also, right? Eyre has had one bad month, why in the world would they just dump him to keep around a mediocre Cotts who still has options. It makes no sense to throw away a guy that can still be an asset to the team either on the field or via trade at the deadline (when veteran lefties are overvalued) if the alternative (Cotts) is about equal in talent.

[NCCubFan]

Of the 3 lefties, i would have chosen Ohman b/c he needs the most work.

I believe Ohman would have beeded to clear waivers in order to be sent down. I don't think he would have cleared because he is fairly good when used properly as a LOOGY.

[Yestheydo]

wth is the organization doing right now?

 

freaking weirdos. this makes NO sense.

 

It's called adjusting. Man, are you gonna feel silly when they win it all.