Jim Hendry should be Fired - NOW!

YearofDaCubs · May 28, 2007

what flukey middle reliever is in the last year of his contract?

thank god this is probably Hendry's last year as GM. Hopefully we get an owner who brings in people who actually know what they're doing.

Agreed. Hendry has done enough damage already. I actually feel bad for the new GM coming in dealing with Hendry's absolutely ridiculous contracts he has given. Soriano at 39 years old? OUCH

The Voice of Reason · May 28, 2007

Jim's $136 million investment looked pretty good today. :roll:

YearofDaCubs · May 28, 2007

Jim's $136 million investment looked pretty good today. :roll:

Overrated and overpaid. Soriano in a nutshell.

The Voice of Reason · May 29, 2007

At least there is the farm system Hendry has built and oversees to fall back on. :roll:

Only one prospect (Pie) ranked in the top 50.

http://www.projectprospect.com/top-50-update-52207/

questionmarkgrace · May 30, 2007

Its bad Hendry really needs to go. This team is dying for some sort of shake up and he is still playing the waiting game. But what I really hate is that he's playing moneyball -- in that the highest paid continue to play despite how badly. Hell the Mariners already want to DFA Weaver they owe him more money than izturis, jones, and I believe howry and eyre.

Bring up Pie

trade jones

Floyd/Murton platoon

Trade Eyre

Marshall to the pen

Guzman or marmol to start

trade izturis and a minor league pitcher for a ss prospect w power and defense and let him play.

Tracer Bullet · May 30, 2007

Its bad Hendry really needs to go. This team is dying for some sort of shake up and he is still playing the waiting game. But what I really hate is that he's playing moneyball -- in that the highest paid continue to play despite how badly. Hell the Mariners already want to DFA Weaver they owe him more money than izturis, jones, and I believe howry and eyre.

Bring up Pie

trade jones

Floyd/Murton platoon

Trade Eyre

Marshall to the pen

Guzman or marmol to start

trade izturis and a minor league pitcher for a ss prospect w power and defense and let him play.

Izturis and a minor leaguer for a SS prospect with power and defense? Are there a bunch of teams with a SS prospect that has power and defense just sitting around with nothing to do? B/c unless we suddenly acquired Homer Bailey and that's the minor league pitcher you're thinking of including in the deal, I don't think Izturis & one of our prospects is going to net a real SS prospect with power and defense.

Oh and it makes absolutely no sense to platoon Murton at this point in his career. He hasn't shown a complete inability to hit RHP. If we're bringing up Pie and putting a prospect at SS and just letting them both play, we're not contending for a WS (or even a playoff spot). So there's no reason to give Floyd most of the ABs. Floyd's hitting pretty well and his OBP is still good, but he's shown almost no power this season and he's not a part of the future of this team. There's no reason to keep giving him ABs over a young player who could be a cheap source of production for a few years.

gflore34 · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

moorecg · May 30, 2007

Its bad Hendry really needs to go. This team is dying for some sort of shake up and he is still playing the waiting game. But what I really hate is that he's playing moneyball -- in that the highest paid continue to play despite how badly. Hell the Mariners already want to DFA Weaver they owe him more money than izturis, jones, and I believe howry and eyre.

Bring up Pie

trade jones

Floyd/Murton platoon

Trade Eyre

Marshall to the pen

Guzman or marmol to start

trade izturis and a minor league pitcher for a ss prospect w power and defense and let him play.

The OF needs to be Soriano, Pie and Murton every day...Infield needs to be Ramirez, Theriot, Patterson and Lee every day...Catcher should be Soto, with Blanco backing him up...

That allows us to move, trade, yard sale, or demote to ball boy

Jones, Floyd, Ward, Barrett, Derosa, Isturis, Pagan

Starting staff is pretty much the same

Z, Lilly, Marquis, Hill, and Marshall

Pen is

Pignatellio, Marmol, Guzman, Cherry, Cotts, Rapada, with Wuertz closing...

There...I just saved us like 20-30 mil in salary...and I'd just about bet that the team listed above (with servicable bench guys) would not play worse than the product currently on the field...We put 1/2 of that money saved towards Miguel Cabrerra...the rest we hand out to fans as payment for making them watch this pathetic team.

anabiono · May 30, 2007

Its bad Hendry really needs to go. This team is dying for some sort of shake up and he is still playing the waiting game. But what I really hate is that he's playing moneyball -- in that the highest paid continue to play despite how badly. Hell the Mariners already want to DFA Weaver they owe him more money than izturis, jones, and I believe howry and eyre.

Bring up Pie

trade jones

Floyd/Murton platoon

Trade Eyre

Marshall to the pen

Guzman or marmol to start

trade izturis and a minor league pitcher for a ss prospect w power and defense and let him play.

The OF needs to be Soriano, Pie and Murton every day...Infield needs to be Ramirez, Theriot, Patterson and Lee every day...Catcher should be Soto, with Blanco backing him up...

That allows us to move, trade, yard sale, or demote to ball boy

Jones, Floyd, Ward, Barrett, Derosa, Isturis, Pagan

Starting staff is pretty much the same

Z, Lilly, Marquis, Hill, and Marshall

Pen is

Pignatellio, Marmol, Guzman, Cherry, Cotts, Rapada, with Wuertz closing...

There...I just saved us like 20-30 mil in salary...and I'd just about bet that the team listed above (with servicable bench guys) would not play worse than the product currently on the field...We put 1/2 of that money saved towards Miguel Cabrerra...the rest we hand out to fans as payment for making them watch this pathetic team.

what are we going to do with ramirez then?

moorecg · May 30, 2007

Its bad Hendry really needs to go. This team is dying for some sort of shake up and he is still playing the waiting game. But what I really hate is that he's playing moneyball -- in that the highest paid continue to play despite how badly. Hell the Mariners already want to DFA Weaver they owe him more money than izturis, jones, and I believe howry and eyre.

Bring up Pie

trade jones

Floyd/Murton platoon

Trade Eyre

Marshall to the pen

Guzman or marmol to start

trade izturis and a minor league pitcher for a ss prospect w power and defense and let him play.

The OF needs to be Soriano, Pie and Murton every day...Infield needs to be Ramirez, Theriot, Patterson and Lee every day...Catcher should be Soto, with Blanco backing him up...

That allows us to move, trade, yard sale, or demote to ball boy

Jones, Floyd, Ward, Barrett, Derosa, Isturis, Pagan

Starting staff is pretty much the same

Z, Lilly, Marquis, Hill, and Marshall

Pen is

Pignatellio, Marmol, Guzman, Cherry, Cotts, Rapada, with Wuertz closing...

There...I just saved us like 20-30 mil in salary...and I'd just about bet that the team listed above (with servicable bench guys) would not play worse than the product currently on the field...We put 1/2 of that money saved towards Miguel Cabrerra...the rest we hand out to fans as payment for making them watch this pathetic team.

what are we going to do with ramirez then?

Trade? Cabrerra to Left...Soriano to Right? Murton traded...something along those lines...I really never expect any of it to happen (especially the Cabrerra part) I didn't go any further....

Soul · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

True. There's probably little value firing Jim now since the new owners will probably want to bring in their own people from the start anyway.

This massive payroll, given the poor results, could actually hurt the market value of the Cubs. If we turn in a well-below .500 season with these bozos and this bloated salary structure, any prospective buyer is going to want to figure the cost of cleaning up the mess into the calculations.

The good thing is, we could be a much better ballclub by simply having a successful bullpen, and the salaries there, while probably well above average, aren't the big ones on the team.

RynoRules · May 30, 2007

Fire Hendry, and ask him to to take Eyre and Howry with him please.

Kidding aside, rather than fire Hendry I would offer him a position in the scouting dept. solely with respect to uncovering pitching talent. If he does not want that he can go somewhere else.

jersey cubs fan · May 30, 2007

Fire Hendry, and ask him to to take Eyre and Howry with him please.

Kidding aside, rather than fire Hendry I would offer him a position in the scouting dept. solely with respect to uncovering pitching talent. If he does not want that he can go somewhere else.

I don't know about you, but I've lost my appetite for his hard throwing walkathon pitchers. I'd rather employ guys who can find guys who don't issue free passes at will.

biittner77 · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

True. There's probably little value firing Jim now since the new owners will probably want to bring in their own people from the start anyway.

It would be a great opportunity for someone to show what they could do. It would be sort of like an extended interview.

I don't believe that the mess Hendry has made is as bad as it seems. Soriano's contract will be a millstone around the franchise's neck for some time but the Cubs can probably get out from Ramirez, Lee and what they would have had to pay Zambrano. Trade those guys for some young talent and reload.

How about Zambrano and Ramirez for Cabrera? Could the Marlins turn that down? It gives them a chance to win now or they could flip one or both for someone else that they want. The Cubs get the best RH hitter in the NL without getting older and are no worse off financially.

jersey cubs fan · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

True. There's probably little value firing Jim now since the new owners will probably want to bring in their own people from the start anyway.

It would be a great opportunity for someone to show what they could do. It would be sort of like an extended interview.

I don't believe that the mess Hendry has made is as bad as it seems. Soriano's contract will be a millstone around the franchise's neck for some time but the Cubs can probably get out from Ramirez, Lee and what they would have had to pay Zambrano. Trade those guys for some young talent and reload.

How about Zambrano and Ramirez for Cabrera? Could the Marlins turn that down? It gives them a chance to win now or they could flip one or both for someone else that they want. The Cubs get the best RH hitter in the NL without getting older and are no worse off financially.

I don't really see the need for trading Lee and Ramirez to get better. This team can win big with those guys on the team, within the next couple years.

NomarSammy · May 30, 2007

I guess I understand the frustration, but I still just dont see the logic behind some of you who think that firing Hendry is the only option. If you just want to fire him because they are losing and someone needs to go then I guess I understand that, but as far as what he has done--I just dont get the hatred for him.

The only thing i really blame him for is not sending a message to some of these guys and eating contracts. Look at what that did for astros when they released P Wilson. I just think players like Eyre need to be DAed if nothing else then to send a message to the rest of the team that we will not tolerate this.

I dont know--I just tend to blame the players more for this year

jersey cubs fan · May 30, 2007

I guess I understand the frustration, but I still just dont see the logic behind some of you who think that firing Hendry is the only option. If you just want to fire him because they are losing and someone needs to go then I guess I understand that, but as far as what he has done--I just dont get the hatred for him.

The only thing i really blame him for is not sending a message to some of these guys and eating contracts. Look at what that did for astros when they released P Wilson. I just think players like Eyre need to be DAed if nothing else then to send a message to the rest of the team that we will not tolerate this.

I dont know--I just tend to blame the players more for this year

Um, the team is well under .500 under his control. I honestly don't see how anybody can not get the reason why people want him fired.

He's a bad GM.

Cubs fans want the Cubs to be good. In order to be good you need a good GM. So we want a good GM. Hendry doesn't fit the bill.

Soriano12 · May 30, 2007

I guess I understand the frustration, but I still just dont see the logic behind some of you who think that firing Hendry is the only option. If you just want to fire him because they are losing and someone needs to go then I guess I understand that, but as far as what he has done--I just dont get the hatred for him.

The only thing i really blame him for is not sending a message to some of these guys and eating contracts. Look at what that did for astros when they released P Wilson. I just think players like Eyre need to be DAed if nothing else then to send a message to the rest of the team that we will not tolerate this.

I dont know--I just tend to blame the players more for this year

This is really a black and white issue...people are trying to make too much of it. The Cubs are 44 games under .500 since 2004. Hendry has been the GM. If the team doesn't perform the GM should be fired. It really is that simple.

The Voice of Reason · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

Firing Hendry now would send a mesage to the entire organization that incompetence will not be tolerated at any level. It would also give a new GM a head start on evaluating the current talent and situation. Finally, a new GM could make decisions based on what is best for the long-term and not be forced to stick with Hendry's guys.

biittner77 · May 30, 2007

I don't really see the need for trading Lee and Ramirez to get better. This team can win big with those guys on the team, within the next couple years.

Do you really think they're that close? I don't see where else they could get an influx of difference making talent. It's a lot to ask Patterson and Pie to step in and fill two holes. Even then they still need a new catcher and SS.

jersey cubs fan · May 30, 2007

I don't really see the need for trading Lee and Ramirez to get better. This team can win big with those guys on the team, within the next couple years.

Do you really think they're that close? I don't see where else they could get an influx of difference making talent. It's a lot to ask Patterson and Pie to step in and fill two holes. Even then they still need a new catcher and SS.

$$$$

They have, and spend, more than most other teams. They will always have the financial advantage over the division, and don't have to worry about contending with the Yankees or Red Sox in the league. The Mets and Dodgers are the only legit competition, from a financial standpoint.

I really think this team is capable of winning 95 games within the next 2 years, if they get a good GM. Hendry's recent contract splurge hurts a bit, but there's still room to maneuver around his mistakes.

If the new GM wants to trade Lee and Ramirez and go with a complete overhaul, sans the untradable Soriano, then I'm not going to cry about it. But I like both of those players, and think the team can definitely win with them.

Edited May 30, 2007 by jersey cubs fan

Soul · May 30, 2007

Honestly, I don't know what good firing Hendry will do, the damage has already been done, the roster is what it is. The time to fire him should have been the end of last season, before he had a chance to put together this mess.

Firing Hendry now would send a mesage to the entire organization that incompetence will not be tolerated at any level. It would also give a new GM a head start on evaluating the current talent and situation. Finally, a new GM could make decisions based on what is best for the long-term and not be forced to stick with Hendry's guys.

Who would be sending the message though? These guys are all going to be fired anyway unless this team performs this year. I don't think hiring a new GM during the season will accomplish much towards that goal.

God, this is a fine mess we're in now, eh? Wow.

RynoRules · May 30, 2007

Fire Hendry, and ask him to to take Eyre and Howry with him please.

Kidding aside, rather than fire Hendry I would offer him a position in the scouting dept. solely with respect to uncovering pitching talent. If he does not want that he can go somewhere else.

I don't know about you, but I've lost my appetite for his hard throwing walkathon pitchers. I'd rather employ guys who can find guys who don't issue free passes at will.

Agreed, but I don't know that to be Hendry's fault. It could have to with the coaching these guys receive as they make their way up the system.

jersey cubs fan · May 30, 2007

Fire Hendry, and ask him to to take Eyre and Howry with him please.

Kidding aside, rather than fire Hendry I would offer him a position in the scouting dept. solely with respect to uncovering pitching talent. If he does not want that he can go somewhere else.

I don't know about you, but I've lost my appetite for his hard throwing walkathon pitchers. I'd rather employ guys who can find guys who don't issue free passes at will.

Agreed, but I don't know that to be Hendry's fault. It could have to with the coaching these guys receive as they make their way up the system.

I believe Hendry's general lack of respect for the value of a walk works both ways. His pitchers have always given up walks, while his hitters have always refused them. I'm sure coaching plays a role, but Jim employs the coaches.

anabiono · May 30, 2007

seriously

it may very well be time to start doing some house cleaning...i am not talking about right now, but at the end of the season

look at the brewers, or even better yet...the mets

they are nasty

they have prospects

good god

the cubs have squat

Jim Hendry should be Fired - NOW!

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