"All Cubs Know Is Who's On First"

[killthegoat06]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubs,1,3660982.story?page=2&coll=cs-home-headlines

 

This article says all of the things that I don't want to hear.

 

Like most managers, Piniella likes to have a set lineup, but Ryan Theriot's blazing beginning and a glut of outfielders has made that impossible, despite what Piniella says.

 

"I have to find ways to get Theriot in the lineup because he deserves to be there," Piniella said. "He's done a really good job, and because of that I have to move things around a little bit.

 

Why not just put Theriot at SS and have infield set??? I know we've discussed this, but the article acts as if this isn't a perfectly logical solution.

 

Even rookie Felix Pie, in theory, should be playing somewhere every day, although it has become clear his status has dropped to that of defensive replacement.

 

This certainly isn't good to hear...

 

 

To be fair, Piniella's lineup appears to be more settled than it was in the first month as he learns his personnel, with the permanent move of Alfonso Soriano from center field to left, the installation of Jacque Jones as the primary center fielder, a platoon involving Cliff Floyd in right field and the demotion of infielder Ronny Cedeno.

 

But Cesar Izturis' slow start at shortstop and the need for Theriot, DeRosa and Matt Murton to play still creates an unusual situation.

 

Again, it sounds as if Theriot as starting SS is a tough decision, and Pie is not going to start much, if at all....

 

 

 

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubsbits,1,6510210.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

 

This article talks about how Murton is a bench player but may start against LHP. But another viable option is to have Izterrible starting and Derosa in RF. :roll:

[Soriano12]

Who?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

[killthegoat06]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

 

Which is one of the reasons why this article was very irritating to read....

 

 

Does Dave van Dyck know what he's talking about in general?

[CubColtPacer]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

 

Which is one of the reasons why this article was very irritating to read....

 

 

Does Dave van Dyck know what he's talking about in general?

 

All he did was casually mention that DeRosa has started in right before-I don't think that really says much about what's going to happen against a LHP. It's not like Lou told him that was an option against a left-hander.

[killthegoat06]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

 

Which is one of the reasons why this article was very irritating to read....

 

 

Does Dave van Dyck know what he's talking about in general?

 

All he did was casually mention that DeRosa has started in right before-I don't think that really says much about what's going to happen against a LHP. It's not like Lou told him that was an option against a left-hander.

 

I meant in general... Pie as a bench role and Theriot not necessarily starting SS

[Backtobanks]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubs,1,3660982.story?page=2&coll=cs-home-headlines

 

This article says all of the things that I don't want to hear.

 

Like most managers, Piniella likes to have a set lineup, but Ryan Theriot's blazing beginning and a glut of outfielders has made that impossible, despite what Piniella says.

 

"I have to find ways to get Theriot in the lineup because he deserves to be there," Piniella said. "He's done a really good job, and because of that I have to move things around a little bit.

 

Why not just put Theriot at SS and have infield set??? I know we've discussed this, but the article acts as if this isn't a perfectly logical solution.

 

Even rookie Felix Pie, in theory, should be playing somewhere every day, although it has become clear his status has dropped to that of defensive replacement.

 

This certainly isn't good to hear...

 

 

To be fair, Piniella's lineup appears to be more settled than it was in the first month as he learns his personnel, with the permanent move of Alfonso Soriano from center field to left, the installation of Jacque Jones as the primary center fielder, a platoon involving Cliff Floyd in right field and the demotion of infielder Ronny Cedeno.

 

But Cesar Izturis' slow start at shortstop and the need for Theriot, DeRosa and Matt Murton to play still creates an unusual situation.

 

Again, it sounds as if Theriot as starting SS is a tough decision, and Pie is not going to start much, if at all....

 

 

 

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubsbits,1,6510210.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

 

This article talks about how Murton is a bench player but may start against LHP. But another viable option is to have Izterrible starting and Derosa in RF. :roll:

 

I think that all Lou is doing is trying to get everyone some playing time while protecting the egos of some of his veterans (Izturis). As much as I would love to see Pie playing everyday, right now Jones deserves to play. I also think Theriot at SS should be a given, but I do think there might be some chinks in the armor if Theriot played everyday. Derosa should never start in RF over Murton, especially with the lack of middle IFs on the Cubs.

[TheDude]

These aren't the thoughts and comments of the manager (other than the direct quote about Theriot). These are the speculations of a beat writer. Who cares?

[Yestheydo]

These aren't the thoughts and comments of the manager (other than the direct quote about Theriot). These are the speculations of a beat writer. Who cares?

 

It's a winning streak, gotta have something to complain about

[jersey cubs fan]

These aren't the thoughts and comments of the manager (other than the direct quote about Theriot). These are the speculations of a beat writer. Who cares?

 

Backup beat writer to boot.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubsbits,1,6510210.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

 

This article talks about how Murton is a bench player but may start against LHP. But another viable option is to have Izterrible starting and Derosa in RF. :roll:

 

I'm failing to see what the issue is with this article.

[killthegoat06]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070507cubsbits,1,6510210.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

 

This article talks about how Murton is a bench player but may start against LHP. But another viable option is to have Izterrible starting and Derosa in RF. :roll:

 

I'm failing to see what the issue is with this article.

 

That wasn't a big deal. I was just adding it in. The main article was the one with its title as the thread title. If you guys don't think it's a big deal then I won't stress over it.

[seanimal]

Who?

 

That's what I want to find out.

[swordsman]

Who?

I don't know.

 

ok. let's cut to the chase:

 

http://www.phoenix5.org/humor/WhosOnFirstAudio.mp3

[seanimal]

Who?

I don't know.

 

ok. let's cut to the chase:

 

http://www.phoenix5.org/humor/WhosOnFirstAudio.mp3

 

Party pooper.

[Derwood]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

[SouthSideRyan]

Slovin and Allen do the best Who's on First you'll ever see.

[jersey cubs fan]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

 

every day? Hardly.

[YearofDaCubs]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

 

True, but I'm not convinced that either Jones or Floyd over the course of a season gives the Cubs a better chance than Murton.

[jersey cubs fan]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

[soapy]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

 

Which is one of the reasons why this article was very irritating to read....

 

 

Does Dave van Dyck know what he's talking about in general?

 

All he did was casually mention that DeRosa has started in right before-I don't think that really says much about what's going to happen against a LHP. It's not like Lou told him that was an option against a left-hander.

 

I know we've discussed this before, but people have been saying this about Murton's playing time since the season started. Don't worry, it's early. He'll get the majority of the time. Floyd is just hot. It was just an isolated occurrence (DeRosa's start).

 

I think there is reason for concern that Murton is the odd man out at this point.

 

There is a simple solution to getting an "everyday" lineup. Theriot at SS. Murton/Floyd platooning in RF. Jones in CF. Send Pie down (if he's not going to play regularly) and bring in a RH who can play CF and platoon with Jones.

[Derwood]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

 

at this moment is all i'm saying

[CubColtPacer]

DeRosa should never be given a start over Murton in RF.

 

Which is one of the reasons why this article was very irritating to read....

 

 

Does Dave van Dyck know what he's talking about in general?

 

All he did was casually mention that DeRosa has started in right before-I don't think that really says much about what's going to happen against a LHP. It's not like Lou told him that was an option against a left-hander.

 

I know we've discussed this before, but people have been saying this about Murton's playing time since the season started. Don't worry, it's early. He'll get the majority of the time. Floyd is just hot. It was just an isolated occurrence (DeRosa's start).

 

I think there is reason for concern that Murton is the odd man out at this point.

 

There is a simple solution to getting an "everyday" lineup. Theriot at SS. Murton/Floyd platooning in RF. Jones in CF. Send Pie down (if he's not going to play regularly) and bring in a RH who can play CF and platoon with Jones.

 

All I was saying is that there is legitimate concern about Murton being the odd man out, but this article adds absolutely nothing to that concern.

[soapy]

an OF of Soriano/Jones/Floyd gives the Cubs a better chance to win every day than Soriano/Pie/Murton, whether anyone wants to admit it or not

Youre right. It does give us a better chance to win. The only reason why you would go with Pie and Murton over Jones and Floyd is defense and I think right now we can use every part of offense we can get.

 

Since when are Jones and Floyd automatic offensive improvements over Murton? They are each still sub 800 OPS OF with checkered pasts (Jones usually isn't very good and Floyd usually can't stay healthy).

 

at this moment is all i'm saying

 

I still don't think it's a given.