4/20 Cards (Looper) vs. Cubs (Lilly), 1:20, CSN & XM-187

[UMFan83]

I would normally be pissed that Murton isn't playing, but since he decided to go back to his first half 2006, ground ball or nothing philosophy, I don't think I can.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

This is going to be ugly baseball.

[ctcf]

This is going to be ugly baseball.

 

Having just looked at the lineups... Yes, yes it is.

[Tracer Bullet]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

Nonsensical. DeRosa and Floyd should be switched.

 

They don't want to put Floyd and Jones back to back-too easy to put the teams best left-hander in when it comes time for the two of them later in the game.

 

So go:

 

Theriot

DeRosa

Lee

Floyd

ARam

Jones

Blanco

Izturis

 

I'd be fine with that, although so far this season things seem to be switched. DeRosa has been great power, horrible OBP. I wouldn't want to see the lineup they have today as a long-term lineup, but I don't think it's that bad either.

 

Well, I'd prefer if Murton were in there and batting 2nd to give us better OBP at the top (I know he hasn't been great in his 30 ABs, but I think he's more likely to be around the .365 he's been for the first 500 or so ABs of his career than the .300 he's been in the last 30 ABs). But I think DeRosa is better in the 2 spot than Floyd. Heck, Jones would probably be better than Floyd for the 2 spot.

[Tracer Bullet]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

Nonsensical. DeRosa and Floyd should be switched.

 

They don't want to put Floyd and Jones back to back-too easy to put the teams best left-hander in when it comes time for the two of them later in the game.

 

So go:

 

Theriot

DeRosa

Lee

Floyd

ARam

Jones

Blanco

Izturis

 

I'd be fine with that, although so far this season things seem to be switched. DeRosa has been great power, horrible OBP. I wouldn't want to see the lineup they have today as a long-term lineup, but I don't think it's that bad either.

 

if things come down to it, i want ramirez with that extra at bat over floyd.

 

I'd rather have ARam hit 4th too, but if Lou is hell-bent on splitting up his LH's, I'd rather have ARam hit 5 than Floyd hit 2nd.

[98navigator]

Jinx: Looper pitches a no-no

[CubColtPacer]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

Nonsensical. DeRosa and Floyd should be switched.

 

They don't want to put Floyd and Jones back to back-too easy to put the teams best left-hander in when it comes time for the two of them later in the game.

 

So go:

 

Theriot

DeRosa

Lee

Floyd

ARam

Jones

Blanco

Izturis

 

I'd be fine with that, although so far this season things seem to be switched. DeRosa has been great power, horrible OBP. I wouldn't want to see the lineup they have today as a long-term lineup, but I don't think it's that bad either.

 

Well, I'd prefer if Murton were in there and batting 2nd to give us better OBP at the top (I know he hasn't been great in his 30 ABs, but I think he's more likely to be around the .365 he's been for the first 500 or so ABs of his career than the .300 he's been in the last 30 ABs). But I think DeRosa is better in the 2 spot than Floyd. Heck, Jones would probably be better than Floyd for the 2 spot.

 

Why though? Floyd's OBP against RHP is just fine for the 2 spot. Even last year, in his horrible injured year, he had a 342 against right-handers. Before that, he was regularly above 370 OBP against RHP.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I would've liked to see Murton in there, he hit the ball really well last night.

 

Lee and Aramis are going to go back to back at some point in this game.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Floyd is a heck of a lot better than Jones in the 2 spot - or DeRosa at this point.

 

OBP is good.

[Balsa]

Let's make it a five game losing streak for the Cards.

[cubbyvirus00]

Not bad of a lineup considered Jones/Blanco is in the game

[Derwood]

DeRosa leads the team in HR, so naturally you bat him 5th :lol:

[jjgman21]

another day where the starting pitcher for the Cubs throws the ball with the opposite arm as the opposition's starting pitcher, so exactly how many inches will Looper get on the outside corner to righties?

[UBlink]

I wonder who is singing the 7th inning stretch, especially it being 4/20... Damian Marley?

 

Josh Hamilton.

David Arquette.

 

Kermit the Fog.

 

I'll say Devin Hester is back for round 2.

 

Matthew McCaunghey? (or however the heck you spell it)

 

Me

 

[you]

[pitchcs]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

 

I like it

 

I don't.

[98navigator]

Let's make it a five game losing streak for the Cards.

 

Let's give 'em a 7 game losing streak. :wink:

[C.C.]

Let's make it a five game losing streak for the Cards.

 

Let's give 'em a 7 game losing streak. :wink:

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

 

I like it

 

I don't.

 

I don't like it. But given the crazy two day road trip, 2 flights in 48 hours, day game after night game, 8th game of 13 in a row combo, this makes some sense.

[jjgman21]

alot of hub bub about the lineup. gotta get Blanco in here and there, but alot of p and m'ing about something that matters little, the order in which the players are assembled. to me the worst part is Theriot is again not the starting shortstop.

 

no reason for Izturis and/or Cedeno to keep getting starts there as Cedeno hasn't hit at all and Izturis has hit little, and been pretty poor defensively. if he's your utility man that has to be in the lineup everyday, put him where he does the most good. the difference in offense between he and Izturis/Cedeno more than makes up for any difference in D no matter how long/poorly Theriot may have played short in is minor league career.

[Derwood]

I wonder who is singing the 7th inning stretch, especially it being 4/20... Damian Marley?

 

Josh Hamilton.

David Arquette.

 

Kermit the Fog.

 

I'll say Devin Hester is back for round 2.

 

Matthew McCaunghey? (or however the heck you spell it)

 

Me

 

[you]

 

wait, what?

[cubbyvirus00]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

 

I like it

 

I don't.

 

I don't like it. But given the crazy two day road trip, 2 flights in 48 hours, day game after night game, 8th game of 13 in a row combo, this makes some sense.

 

I'm quoting this, because people don't understand the toll a road trip and these flights take on a player who has to be in playing shape everyday.

 

Give some of these guys a break.

[Rob]

alot of hub bub about the lineup. gotta get Blanco in here and there, but alot of p and m'ing about something that matters little, the order in which the players are assembled. to me the worst part is Theriot is again not the starting shortstop.

 

no reason for Izturis and/or Cedeno to keep getting starts there as Cedeno hasn't hit at all and Izturis has hit little, and been pretty poor defensively. if he's your utility man that has to be in the lineup everyday, put him where he does the most good. the difference in offense between he and Izturis/Cedeno more than makes up for any difference in D no matter how long/poorly Theriot may have played short in is minor league career.

 

Agreed. But I think you're looking at it wrong.

 

If you move Theriot to SS, DeRosa can go back to 2B, and Murton in RF. So it's not just the upgrade from Izturis to Theriot... it's Izturis to Murton.

 

Side note:

 

I love Floyd in the #2 spot. Much better than Jacque there.

[jjgman21]

Theriot 2B

Floyd LF

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

DeRosa RF

Jones CF

Blanco C

Izturis SS

Lilly P

 

I like it

 

I don't.

 

I don't like it. But given the crazy two day road trip, 2 flights in 48 hours, day game after night game, 8th game of 13 in a row combo, this makes some sense.

 

the schedule makers can blame Wrigley all they want, but year after year, no team has to deal with crap like this to the extent the Cubs do. there's no reason the schedule makers couldn't have made yesterday a day game.

[soapy]

I wonder who is singing the 7th inning stretch, especially it being 4/20... Damian Marley?

 

Josh Hamilton.

David Arquette.

 

Kermit the Fog.

 

I'll say Devin Hester is back for round 2.

 

Matthew McCaunghey? (or however the heck you spell it)

 

Me

 

[you]

 

wait, what?

I'm doing the stretch. You got a problem with that?

[Andy]

Uh, where'd that miss?