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E.J. Chicago Cubs

E.J.

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Have you guys read this article?

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070416cubsgamer,1,3488580.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

According to this Piniella offered Soriano to play LF and he rejected it. To me iit means that 1. Pie was probably going to get called up to play CF no matter the injury to Soriano if he accepted. 2. How did he refuse to play LF? Is this going to be a problem now, and is Pie stays Soriano stays in CF as well? I think Jones will be out of there soon as well.

 

The way Piniella presented it to Soriano was as an option, not a demand. It wasn't like he said "You're going to LF." and Soriano told him to stick it. It was "Will moving to LF help your hitting with not having so much to worry about?" and he said he was fine, that CF wasn't a distraction.

 

I don't think this is an issue.

What happens when Soriano gets back and Pie stays on board though? I wonder is Pie will be our starting CF and if so will Sori be in RF or LF?

 

With Murton playing RF yesterday, I'd expect Soriano to move back to LF. Also, he's played a year there, so he's comfortable in LF. I doubt they'd move him to RF.

 

I'd be surprised if Soriano moved to LF this year. They'd basically be shutting off Floyd from ever starting the rest of the year, and I don't think the team would be ready to do that.

 

Floyd has played 79 games in RF before. Not since 2002 though.

CubColtPacer South Bend Cubs

CubColtPacer

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With Murton playing RF yesterday, I'd expect Soriano to move back to LF. Also, he's played a year there, so he's comfortable in LF. I doubt they'd move him to RF.

 

I'd be surprised if Soriano moved to LF this year. They'd basically be shutting off Floyd from ever starting the rest of the year, and I don't think the team would be ready to do that.

 

Floyd has played 79 games in RF before. Not since 2002 though.

 

Exactly-with the way he plays LF, I don't think anybody wants to see him out in RF at this stage in his career. Pie will likely go down this time when Soriano comes up, and if Jones does get traded sometime this summer, Soriano/Pie will play some combination of center and right.

Derwood GOAT

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I think Pie will go back to Iowa unless he really rakes.

 

I think you are right.

 

definitely. he'd have to hit the cover off the ball to bump floyd/jones/soriano/murton out of the OF rotation

Banedon GOAT

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I think Pie will go back to Iowa unless he really rakes.

 

I think you are right.

 

definitely. he'd have to hit the cover off the ball to bump floyd/jones/soriano/murton out of the OF rotation

 

Hendry may really be trying to trade Jones too. He certainly showed some outfield versatility yesterday, although this is the second year in a row he's started slow offensively.

biittner77 South Bend Cubs

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did the cubs gain anything by not calling him up for the first 2 weeks? in regards to service time, option clock, etc.

 

In terms of service time, they gained a year.

radarluv1 First Round Pick

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did the cubs gain anything by not calling him up for the first 2 weeks? in regards to service time, option clock, etc.

 

In terms of service time, they gained a year.

 

well, thats a big 2 weeks then. i hope he gets off to a great start, sori can take his time, then come back and replace jj in RF.

RynoRules Knoxville Smokies

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Yuck on the leadoff choice. Oh well - can't have everything.

 

In any case, I really think this means that Jacque is back on the mkt. Lou doesn't suffer fools - Ohman is gone, Jones is next.

 

I would LOVE this OF:

 

Pie CF

Fonz LF

Murt RF

NewUserName Myrtle Beach Pelicans

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I think Pie will go back to Iowa unless he really rakes.

 

I think you are right.

 

definitely. he'd have to hit the cover off the ball to bump floyd/jones/soriano/murton out of the OF rotation

 

Hendry may really be trying to trade Jones too. He certainly showed some outfield versatility yesterday, although this is the second year in a row he's started slow offensively.

 

 

I suspected something was up with the outfield flop last night. Soriano getting hurt may have just sped up the process. I think Murton is getting used in right to show he can play it so Jones can be traded and Pie will get the CF or RF spot and Murton will be able to back up RF.

Flames24Rulz All-Star

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Yuck on the leadoff choice. Oh well - can't have everything.

 

In any case, I really think this means that Jacque is back on the mkt. Lou doesn't suffer fools - Ohman is gone, Jones is next.

 

I would LOVE this OF:

 

Pie CF

Fonz LF

Murt RF

 

I would love that too. Here's to hoping that this is a permanent situation for Felix.

CubColtPacer South Bend Cubs

CubColtPacer

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I think Pie will go back to Iowa unless he really rakes.

 

I think you are right.

 

definitely. he'd have to hit the cover off the ball to bump floyd/jones/soriano/murton out of the OF rotation

 

Hendry may really be trying to trade Jones too. He certainly showed some outfield versatility yesterday, although this is the second year in a row he's started slow offensively.

 

 

I suspected something was up with the outfield flop last night. Soriano getting hurt may have just sped up the process. I think Murton is getting used in right to show he can play it so Jones can be traded and Pie will get the CF or RF spot and Murton will be able to back up RF.

 

That makes sense. Pie would get RF, and Murton/Pie/Floyd would split the at-bats between the two corner positions, with Murton the one who flipped between LF and RF depending on the day.

davearm College Ball

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did the cubs gain anything by not calling him up for the first 2 weeks? in regards to service time, option clock, etc.

 

In terms of service time, they gained a year.

I don't think so... not yet at least. See the bolded section below.

 

Under terms of the CBA, one service year is equal to 172 days. The MLB championship season (regular season) lasts 182 days (162 games + 20 off days). Players earn service time for each day spent on the active roster, the 15-day DL, the 60-day DL, the Restricted List, the Active Military Duty List or the Bereveament List. A player cannot accumulate more than 172 days of service during a single season. Also, if a player is optioned to the minors and spends 20 days or less in the minors, the days he spent in the Minors count as Major League service, thus giving the player a full year of service. Players also gain service time during suspensions if they are administered by either their team or the Commissioner's Office.

My read of that is that if Pie remains up with the Cubs for the remainder of the year, he will earn a full year of service time, as MLB is currently only 16 days into the 2007 season.

 

Of course if they drop Pie back down, and he ends up collecting over 20 days in Iowa, then at that point his free agency will be pushed back a year.

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