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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2834516

 

I don't care if we lose every game, we're not going to play guys that don't hustle," Narron said. "Simple as that."

 

After popping to Arizona second baseman Orlando Hudson with runners at first and third and one out, Encarnacion returned to the dugout with his bat in his hand. Narron, who had been watching the flight of the ball, allowed Encarnacion to take the field in the bottom of the inning. But the manager went back to his office after the inning and looked at a videotape that showed Encarnacion had not run to first.

 

Didn't see this posted anywhere else. Sorry if I missed it.

 

Do managers usually go back and watch tape between innings?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2834516

 

I don't care if we lose every game, we're not going to play guys that don't hustle," Narron said. "Simple as that."

 

After popping to Arizona second baseman Orlando Hudson with runners at first and third and one out, Encarnacion returned to the dugout with his bat in his hand. Narron, who had been watching the flight of the ball, allowed Encarnacion to take the field in the bottom of the inning. But the manager went back to his office after the inning and looked at a videotape that showed Encarnacion had not run to first.

 

Didn't see this posted anywhere else. Sorry if I missed it.

 

Do managers usually go back and watch tape between innings?

 

how incredibly pointless.

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I like this. He sent a message to his team without risking much. If he had continued to hold Encarnacion out, he would have hurt the team, but it doesn't sound like he is going to do that, so it's just sending a message with the only drawback being removing a player for 4-5 innings.
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how incredibly pointless.

 

Why? A batter should at least jog to first. It seems that Encarnacion didn't even do that. Believe it or not, fly balls and popups get dropped occasionally, and if you want to send a message to your team, now (early in the year) is the time to do it.

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how incredibly pointless.

 

Why? A batter should at least jog to first. It seems that Encarnacion didn't even do that. Believe it or not, fly balls and popups get dropped occasionally, and if you want to send a message to your team, now (early in the year) is the time to do it.

 

Yes. There isn't a lot that irritates me more than seeing someone throwing a fit over popping up and not running it out.

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how incredibly pointless.

 

Why? A batter should at least jog to first. It seems that Encarnacion didn't even do that. Believe it or not, fly balls and popups get dropped occasionally, and if you want to send a message to your team, now (early in the year) is the time to do it.

 

Yes. There isn't a lot that irritates me more than seeing someone throwing a fit over popping up and not running it out.

 

There's a hell of a lot more that irritates me. That has a negligible effect on the game. Things like first pitch hacking, and pitchers who can't throw strikes piss me off a whole heck of a lot more. But I don't have a problem with a manager trying to nip this in the bud.

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If you want to send a message bench someone for not running out a pop up that is actually good.

 

Well, he is their cleanup hitter-I would assume that the team thinks he is good.

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If you want to send a message bench someone for not running out a pop up that is actually good.

 

I'd take 276/359/473 and 105 OPS+ from a 23 year old third baseman.

 

I didn't even catch the reference to Narron. I was thinking of Juan and thought "might have helped the team." Wonder if biittner was too.

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If you want to send a message bench someone for not running out a pop up that is actually good.

 

I'd take 276/359/473 and 105 OPS+ from a 23 year old third baseman.

 

I didn't even catch the reference to Narron. I was thinking of Juan and thought "might have helped the team." Wonder if biittner was too.

 

Yes I was. Though I have to say that I still think it's somewhat less than courageous to bench a young player to prove a point.

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If you want to send a message bench someone for not running out a pop up that is actually good.

 

I'd take 276/359/473 and 105 OPS+ from a 23 year old third baseman.

 

I didn't even catch the reference to Narron. I was thinking of Juan and thought "might have helped the team." Wonder if biittner was too.

 

Yes I was. Though I have to say that I still think it's somewhat less than courageous to bench a young player to prove a point.

 

I'd take "engraining hustle in the mindset of a young player" as the reason.

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He's going to sit out one game and he'll most likely never walk to the dugout before a ball is caught ever again.

 

I don't think that's really a bad tradeoff considering the fact that one of the times he doesn't leg it out, the ball could be dropped and really screw things up for the team.

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Hello all,

 

the first thing that popped into my mind was... would Narron have benched him if he were doing push-ups at home instead of running.

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Went to watch video? Interesting.

 

I read somewhere that Naron was watching the baserunners and didn't see where the ball went. Once he saw Edwin walking back to the dugout with bat in hand he wondered why he was coming from home plate area so he watched the replay and saw that he didn't leave the box.

 

I think it's something to be upset about as a manager, certainly.

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nothing trumps Bobby Cox pulling Andruw Jones out of a game mid inning for letting an easy fly ball drop (doing his normal, lackadaisical jog towards the ball)
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Went to watch video? Interesting.

 

I read somewhere that Naron was watching the baserunners and didn't see where the ball went. Once he saw Edwin walking back to the dugout with bat in hand he wondered why he was coming from home plate area so he watched the replay and saw that he didn't leave the box.

 

I think it's something to be upset about as a manager, certainly.

 

That is what made me curious. Is it normal practice for a manager to go watch video in the midst of a game?

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I like it. It is meaningless overall, but it lays a good foundation in a day in age where players seem lazier than ever (Roger Dorn in Major League... "you actually expect me to dive for that and risk injury to this face?")
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He's going to sit out one game and he'll most likely never walk to the dugout before a ball is caught ever again.

 

I don't think that's really a bad tradeoff considering the fact that one of the times he doesn't leg it out, the ball could be dropped and really screw things up for the team.

 

Winner.

 

I really don't see the issue in trying to get guys to not half-ass it.

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