Bring Back Moises

[Yeti]

before or after he pisses on them?

somehow im surprised that this comment didnt come from BBB

[goonys evil twin]

Not many managers platoon players when they should. They like to have their main guys play all the time.

 

One of the early themes from Lou is about resting his regulars. I don't know how far he'd be willing to take that, but there's at least some hope.

[CubinNY]

Not many managers platoon players when they should. They like to have their main guys play all the time.

 

One of the early themes from Lou is about resting his regulars. I don't know how far he'd be willing to take that, but there's at least some hope.

 

Dusty was all for that too. He'd rest everyone but Slappy.

 

I hope Hendry gives Lou a cracker jack bench if that's the case.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Would Alou be content being a part time player?

 

I don't know, but he turns 41 next season. Unless he's a DH somewhere, I don't see him being a productive, healthy player playing everyday in the field. He may realize that too.

 

While it is a small sample size, check out Alou's PH splits for 2006. Amazing!

[baseball7897]

You would also have to consider the risk of Alou being injured. Have the Cubs learned their lesson yet?

[Bruno7481]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

[goonys evil twin]

You would also have to consider the risk of Alou being injured. Have the Cubs learned their lesson yet?

 

It's a big risk, but much less of an issue if you are paying him $4-5m and hoping for 300-400 PA.

[goonys evil twin]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

 

You should never make personel decisions based solely on what the player did the year before.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

You would also have to consider the risk of Alou being injured. Have the Cubs learned their lesson yet?

 

As a platoon or part-time player, I think Alou would prove durable.

 

Furthermore, the 250 point difference in OPS makes Alou a better gamble than Payton.

[Bruno7481]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

 

You should never make personel decisions based solely on what the player did the year before.

 

Agreed, but his 2003 wasn't too bad either.

 

I say that with this in mind, Hendry basically replaced him with Burnitz. I would have taken Alou over JB every day of the week.

[baseball7897]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

 

You should never make personel decisions based solely on what the player did the year before.

 

Agreed, but his 2003 wasn't too bad either.

 

I say that with this in mind, Hendry basically replaced him with Burnitz. I would have taken Alou over JB every day of the week.

 

I thought Hendry replaced Sosa with Burnitz.

 

And that bum Dubois replaced Alou.

[goonys evil twin]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

 

You should never make personel decisions based solely on what the player did the year before.

 

Agreed, but his 2003 wasn't too bad either.

 

I say that with this in mind, Hendry basically replaced him with Burnitz. I would have taken Alou over JB every day of the week.

 

I was all for getting rid of Alou. Ending up with Burnitz, however, was a joke. Alou got paid $9m per as a mercenary and he didn't live up to his contract while here. On top of the lack of production, there were the defense, base running and attitude issues that bugged the heck out of me. (his 1 billionth check swing grounder at the end of the Mets series in '04 just made it worse). Had I known at the time what direction Hendry would end up taking this team, I probably would have been more than happy to see Alou at 2/12 in Chicago, although I'm not sure he signs that deal here. Guys take it as an insult when they have to take a pay cut to remain here. (Grace was insulted by a Cubs offer that was in-line with what he got annually in Arizona).

 

I'm not Alou fan. But at $4-5m in a platoon role, I'd be more than happy to see him in Chicago. I'm just not sure he would accept such a salary and role.

[goonys evil twin]

 

I thought Hendry replaced Sosa with Burnitz.

 

And that bum Dubois replaced Alou.

 

Technically it was Hollandsworth who replaced Alou and Burnitz for Sosa, but they all affected one another.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bridges were burned with Alou's departure from the Cubs. Even though MacPhail, Baker, and Stone are gone, I have a hard time seeing him having interest in coming back unless there's an extreme difference in his other offers.

[Bruno7481]

I think it wuld be a good move. I also don't think Alou should have ever left in the first place. His numbers in 2004 were outstanding.

 

.293/.361/.557

 

You should never make personel decisions based solely on what the player did the year before.

 

Agreed, but his 2003 wasn't too bad either.

 

I say that with this in mind, Hendry basically replaced him with Burnitz. I would have taken Alou over JB every day of the week.

 

I thought Hendry replaced Sosa with Burnitz.

 

And that bum Dubois replaced Alou.

 

Dubois was awful.

 

There were outcries for Dubois like crazy that offseason. He got the job and preceded to lose it pretty quickly.

[b_wiggy_66]

4-5mil is quite a bit for a platoon guy. Thats getting into Neifi and Rusch type money there. That mopney would be much better spent on our bigger needs(pitching and a slugger)

[Guest]

must...not...ban...just...because...someone...wants...alou...back...

 

oh...the...pain...

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

4-5mil is quite a bit for a platoon guy. Thats getting into Neifi and Rusch type money there. That mopney would be much better spent on our bigger needs(pitching and a slugger)

 

Essientially, yes 4-5 million is a lot for a platoon guy. But Jones makes 5 million and if Alou signed for 5 million, then 10 million is alotted for RF. You'd find it hard to get a slugger at 10 million who would give you the combined production of Alou + Jones. Don't look at it as paying 5 million for a platoon player, but instead paying 10 million for all-star level production from RF.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

must...not...ban...just...because...someone...wants...alou...back...

 

oh...the...pain...

 

Just think, Tim. If you had the blogs up and running this might have been the subject of my blog for today. :P

[goonys evil twin]

4-5mil is quite a bit for a platoon guy. Thats getting into Neifi and Rusch type money there. That mopney would be much better spent on our bigger needs(pitching and a slugger)

 

What? Neifi and Rusch money? The difference is the guy would produce. Add his $5m to Jones's $5m, platoon them, and you are getting the produciton of a $15m+ individual player.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

4-5mil is quite a bit for a platoon guy. Thats getting into Neifi and Rusch type money there. That mopney would be much better spent on our bigger needs(pitching and a slugger)

 

What? Neifi and Rusch money? The difference is the guy would produce. Add his $5m to Jones's $5m, platoon them, and you are getting the produciton of a $15m+ individual player.

 

Thank-you!

 

Furthermore, when Alou isn't starting there's a great threat of a pinch hitter, something we haven't had in recent years.

[goonys evil twin]

Dubois was awful.

 

There were outcries for Dubois like crazy that offseason. He got the job and preceded to lose it pretty quickly.

 

I wanted Dubois to get a chance. What I didn't want was an outfield of Dubois, Patterson and Burnitz. Likewise, I wanted Murton to get a chance, but I didn't want an OF of Murton, Pierre and Jones. You need some big time production out of your OF. Going with a guy like Dubois, or Murton, should allow you to afford big time production elsewhere in that OF. The problem wasn't giving a kid the chance. The problem was giving him the chance, but them constructing a team that needed that kid to produce big time, right away, in order to succeed.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

And I'm not sure how much of a shot Dubois actually received.

 

But regardless, yes I wanted Dubois to get a shot, but like Goony, I didn't want Burnitz. Had I known Sosa was going to be traded for nothing, I'd have preferred to keep Alou in left and let Dubois/Hollandsworth attempt in right. At least in that scenario we would have had only two thirds of the OF sucking rather than the whole shebang! (And yes, I've been waiting all day to use the phrase "whole shebang".)

[b_wiggy_66]

There are much cheaper options out there such as with similar production:

 

Eli Marrero- vs. Left: .415 vs. Right: .250

 

Gabe Kapler- vs. Left: .317 vs. Right: .238

 

Stats from MLB website player Bio page.

[CubColtPacer]

4-5mil is quite a bit for a platoon guy. Thats getting into Neifi and Rusch type money there. That mopney would be much better spent on our bigger needs(pitching and a slugger)

 

What? Neifi and Rusch money? The difference is the guy would produce. Add his $5m to Jones's $5m, platoon them, and you are getting the produciton of a $15m+ individual player.

 

Thank-you!

 

Furthermore, when Alou isn't starting there's a great threat of a pinch hitter, something we haven't had in recent years.

 

I agree with you completely Vance. In fact, I brought up this exact scenario a month ago on this board :D.

 

The big key is as you mentioned is not only the starting production, but also the threat of the other guy off of the bench. There were several times that Jacque was up in a key situation in the 7th, 8th, or 9th this year that teams brought in a left-hander just for him. With Alou, teams might not even bring in that left-hander to face Jacque, instead choosing to pitch to Jacque with a right-hander rather than a left-hander against Alou. That just gives the Cubs so many favorable matchups that the overall production of right field would be absolutely tremendous.